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Barclays Predicts 2018 iPhones Won't Come Bundled With Lightning to Headphone Jack Adapter
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Just buy a third party dongle that is s better quality than Apples at a cheaper price. Apples cables are notoriously poor anyway.
Earphones, not headphones, and they don't stay in my ears - they fall out rather easily, unfortunately.
The AirPods, on the other hand, actually do stay in my ears, which leads me to conclude that it's the movement of the cable on the EarPods when I turn or move, that yanks the EarPod out of my ear....
I'm a big complainer about the lack of a headphone jack, but it didn't stop me from finally upgrading from my iPhone 6S Plus to the 8 Plus finally last year, and while it's annoying to not have the ubiquitous 3.5mm jack, it isn't killer, and it certainly isn't enough for me to give up iOS and my Apple ecosystem for the clunky world of Android -- no thanks!
And I'd wager that fewer people use the dongle than use the Lightning-terminated EarPods, and frankly, I'd rather see them include some tip covers (like the third-party ones I bought for my EarPods) that help keep the EarPods in my ears, than the dongle -- as long as they continue to sell the dongle at $9, which I think is a uncharacteristically great price for Apple, for a product like this.
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While I've been a continual complainer about Apple's decision to ditch the 3.5mm jack, I did finally upgrade last year from the 6S Plus to the 8 Plus. Yes, it's annoying not having a jack, but it's worse living with Android as a phone platform -- at least, that's my take on it.
What headphones do you use? I've settled on some third-party solutions, like 3.5mm and 2.5mm (headphone end) to Lightning cables, for use with my headphones that have, respectively, 3.5mm and 2.5mm jacks on the headphone end, as well as frequent use of third party Bluetooth receivers which enable me to use my many wired headphones wirelessly. I have multiple of these receivers (some are quite inexpensive, really) so I really never have to worry about running out of power on one.
I also make use of the wireless charging on my iPhone 8 Plus when I am using wired headphones (like the Audeze EL-8C with Cipher cable, a cable terminated in Lightning plug) so I can charge and use wired headphones directly with the phone, even.
Its a known fact that rich companies become snobby and arrogant. Thats what happened with Microsoft and Yahoo when Apple and Google came along and took their market share away from them. Microsoft could not compete with the iPod, it lost the browser wars, and failed at the smartphone market.
Apple shoud be very careful not to be the Microsoft of the 90s in the 2020's.
Apple shoud be very careful not to be the Microsoft of the 90s in the 2020's.
The average person won't be effected by no headphone jack, they will just use the lightning headphones that come with the phone, or bluetooth. Audiophiles and other who can tell the difference between good sound and amazing sound, shouldn't be using the headphone jack anyway, because the DAC is not good enough in the phone, to make a difference. Audiophiles who are serious about listening to high quality audio on their phone, should be buying high quality external DACs anyway.
Consumer (hundreds of millions) vs professional (not hundreds of millions)
Why not put the headphone jack back, and also destroy all the wifi networks out there, along with cordless phones, wireless baby monitors. Let's just stay with everything wired like the 80s and 90s. It was much better then. I miss having a 30m ethernet cable trailing down my stairs. I miss using a 10m audio cable to connect my headphones to the TV. Those were the days!
You don't need to miss those high quality services -- you can still have them - but do it properly, and you won't need to have the cable going down your stairs, but built-in, just like electricity. Sounds you like you have replaced high-quality cables with lossy compressed formats (such as Bluetooth and wireless mp3 audio), and are needlessly and pointlessly risking wi-fi radiation exposure to your body. Yes - I would get rid of all your wi-fi junk, and do it professionally and safely with cable. I would also get an eletrosmog metre, and measure the wi-fi radiation in your house, and try and keep it away from your head and reproductive organs.
Well, the deal is, before Apple got rid of the headphone jack, if you lost your Apple-supplied ear buds or EarPods, it was quite easy to just grab a cheap pair from a store and plug in.
Now you have to either (a) not lose the dongle and have it with you, at that or (b) spend more or hunt more to deal with BT and all its issues (I, for example, consistently have issues with BT and phone calls -- about 20% of the time, which is high, phone calls don't work through BT even though I am using BT for media consumption just fine -- and this happens across several BT headphones, premium and cheap, and my BT car connection as well).
Having a standard audio jack is convenient -- not having one is less convenient, that's the simple truth.
Having said that, I deal with it, and it's not a "killer" issue for me, just a minor annoyance at times.
Too late.
Microsoft:
1. Radical reinventions of software/UI instead of sticking to time-tested intuitive UI elements; each new Windows reinvention always seemed to me to be an admittance of “what we had before was crap. Take a look at THIS!”
2. Overindulgence in blue/white flat design just to be fashionable and not for function.
Apple after Jony and Tim took over:
1. Radical reinventions of software/UI instead of sticking to time-tested intuitive UI elements; unnecessary reinventions (ios7) because the insecure new Designer in charge felt the prior methods were crap.
2. Overindulgence in blue/white flat design just to be fashionable and not for function.
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They don’t fit your particular standard but that’s not great reasoning. For the other 90% of of the population EarPods sound good and they plug right into the bottom of the phone.
If you want it otherwise you can buy an alternative.
I’m referring to the biggest money maker the iPhone line outside of the SE.
Anyway Apple has decided and no one on MR is going to make them change their mind. Have a good day.
For me, it was the B&W PX that changed my mind on wireless headphones. Check them out if you have not.
How so? I want a smartphone with an industry standard headphone jack. That is most certainly what I will get.
And how many professionals are recording music on their phones?
apple mentioned it before. You are more likely to plug in microphones and other audio equipment to your iPads and Macs compared to smartphones. That’s why the removal of the headphone jack was deemed an acceptable sacrifice on the iPhone but not the other devices.
Great however you won’t get it from Apple in the form of a new phone without a dongle.
BTW, the info you quoted is misleading. Bluetooth did not outsell wired headphones in 2016 in the US. Wired still sold approx 5 times more. Bluetooth did generate more revenues due to the much higher selling price.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/apple-iphone-7-wireless-headphones-sales-chart-2016-9
So Apple become even further out of touch with the consumer. Clearly Apple are unaware that the vast majority of headphones in use are wired. It is just the same as the vast majority of peripherals remain USB 3.0 yet Apple insist on ramming USB-C down our throats on Macs.
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Not talking music preforming. Talking just in general. Non-upgradeable laptops likely for thinness and cost, saddling the expanding pro user to buy a complete new system. MacBook “Pros” with a shortage of ports, requiring pro users with a plethora of still useful older equipment to buy usb expansion boxes, undoing the “thin and light and portableness” aspect of a portable device. Their joke of a commercial with a supposdly smart and connected little girl not knowing what a computer is....portable devices are optimized for content, not productivity.
Absolutely - this is a BS move by Apple if true.
It's bad enough having to have a dongle to use Jack connected headphones etc in the first place without being charged extra for it.
With the amount of profit Apple makes too, it would be a disgusting decision frankly.
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Nooooo . . . . don't encourage them to remove the charger - there are far too many companies conning customers by doing this already.
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There's rising amount of that, "I don't use it, so I'm glad it's gone" attitude on these forums sadly.
So inconsiderate of others. Why people want to pay more for less functionality is beyond me, as is why people would celebrate the choices of others being taken away.
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Well said and not only do wired headphones and other jack connected devices exist in huge numbers, but the sound quality is better too.
There are several people who still value superior audio quality over poor audio quality. You won't get great quality over BT. Maybe only hipsters have logic of your comment.
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Totally agree - I've never used any of Apple's bundled earphones since I started buying iPhones with the 3G model as the sound quality is cr@p compared to the wired 3rd party earphones I've purchased.
Even if I disagree, that's actually a polite, well thought out response. We could use more of that around here.
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What if you're a person in possession of a modern iPhone and a standard pair of headphones that wants to privately listen to an audio source on that iPhone? Is the adapter still useless?
are people really still upset about the headphone jack? everyone I know doesn’t even think about it anymore. If they want to use headphones bluetooth is definitely the way to go and they are getting much cheaper for people that don’t like to spend a lot. it’s not a big deal for apple to include a $9 dongle that tons of people don’t even use.
Some people here would probably defend Apple even if they didn’t include a phone with the 2019 iPhone.