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No they will not as Tim has no clue. Steve was a product guy, Tim is a screw you for as much cash as he can whilst giving you as little as he can type of guy in my view.
This can not be defended, no matter what you or others say!
If you can't get enough 128GB chips but do have several 256GB chips, for your 256GB product then it makes sense.
 
I don't think the target purchasers are going to notice or care about this.

Thank you. Exactly. Someone buying this will most likely be coming from an Intel Mac (or a Windows PC). This machine will run like butter for them and will be a huge leap forward compared to what they are used to.
 
So, what do you expect them to do? Just eat the cost of inflation that has been passed to them from parts suppliers and manufacturers? They are in the same realm as every other business that has to pass costs down to the consumer, because it’s costing them more to fabricate and produce yields required for demand.

I mean, seriously. Apple is in a position to make money, and if it’s going to cost them more to build a machine, then somebody has to be responsible for those additional cost to be recuperated.
What do you want Apple to do? Screw us over as much as they can whilst ignoring the industry leading MEGA MEGA MEGA HUGE HUGE GINORMOUS profits they make whilst also having OVER $160 billion in cash reserves.
Stop acting as though Apple are poor and cannot afford to reduce their obscene margins !
 
So... I'm not a power user, but I like a snappy computer.

My laptop usually only gets used for Safari, Photos, Mail & Calendar. But I do have lots of tabs open so it's quite likely 8gb ram will use swap.

I'm thinking that a base model M2 Air would be nice, but now I'm wondering if maybe the M1 version would be better for my use as neither CPU (or GPU for that matter) going to be stretched, and I may actually get more benefit from a faster SSD..?

Any thoughts?

Also I wonder if the 256gb M1 model will start shipping with slower SSDs...
 
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Sure, but it's not like the 13" M2 MBP SSD is slow. It's not. It's fast - just not as fast at the last version.



Agree that Apple overcharges for RAM and SSD - ridiculously so. But don't think it isn't premium - it's still a really fast SSD. There aren't many good choices in this price range with a faster SSD. It will be fast enough for the target user base.



Why on earth would anyone switch from a faster machine to this machine? If you're talking about people with 13" M1 MacBook Pro's then I don't think many or any of them should be switching to this M2 version. Anyone with an M1 is just throwing money away with an upgrade - I mean, if they have an M1 and it is too slow, then an M2 will be too slow as well. Those folks would need an M1 Pro/Max/Ultra for their work and should not be looking at this M2.

Put simply, this machine isn't aimed for folks with last year's machine. It's targeted at people who are still on Intel Macs, or are new to Macs in general.



Agree. That marginal difference is what makes the market positioning of this machine very confusing. It sets an expectation that it will be 'Pro', but it's really the same consumer class of machine as a MacBook Air with slightly better sustained performance and battery life in a chunkier (older) chassis.

I'm pretty sure the only reason Apple makes them is that people buy still them.



Sure the SSD is slower on benchmarks, but in the real world, most of the stuff that folks will be using this machine for will feel the same or faster than an M1. However, like I said above - any who is upgrading from an M1 is doing it wrong. The people really buying this are coming from Intel or Windows and they will likely be very happy with the performance that they get for the money.
Once again you miss the point! The point is the principal and not the actual!
This is not to be defended no matter how hard you try to pretend that Apple are downtrodden and poor.
They can easily stop ripping us off whilst not saying a dam word about it!
 
Once again you miss the point! The point is the principal and not the actual!
This is not to be defended no matter how hard you try to pretend that Apple are downtrodden and poor.
They can easily stop ripping us off whilst not saying a dam word about it!

  • Where have I said Apple is downtrodden and poor?
  • Don't get ripped off by... ...not buying it.
 
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I mean that's not really true at all.
You are right it is not true because Tim is on a LOT more than that!
In 2020-2021 he got:
Salary: $3 million
Bonus: $10.7 million
Perks: $1million
Stock options: $250 million.

Total: $264.7 million.

You may try to claim that we can not include his stock options because it is not actual salary but we can because it is INCLUDED in his PAY award!

Game set and match to me!
 
Thank you. Exactly. Someone buying this will most likely be coming from an Intel Mac (or a Windows PC). This machine will run like butter for them and will be a huge leap forward compared to what they are used to.
Agreed. However, a notice would be nice as to tell people that if they want higher speeds, they'll need a double chipped 512GB SSD. Apple has given notice of such things before.
 
Anyone in their right mind should stop at ”touch bar”. Imagine getting this all the way to your house in the first place. Who would buy a 6 year old design at this point?
This is not a popular opinion: I would replace my 14" Mac Book Pro the minute Apple provides a 14" Mac Book Pro with a touch bar. I use the function keys exclusively for controlling media and volume level. The touch bar gave me so many more options.
 
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Max just did some stress tests that show the slow SSD speed does impact overall experience comparing to M1 MacBook Pro.

Bestbuy is also having 200 off the M1 MacBook Pro

 
Can’t wait for Rene Ritchie or however you spell his name, to come out with a 7.5 hours deep dive that you have to listen at 0.5x speed, full of words that 98% of the population need to look up, just to look cool and stat wars videoclips, trying to explain why apple did it right.
 
Maybe you do not care less but some of us care about principals.

And to stand up for your principles you're going to be voting with your wallet and purchase products from Apple competitors. Right? Or maybe just have a good moan on a tech forum and move on?
 
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No, actually. This is bad and case of Apple screwing people over. You do know that they are reusing last years boxes for the M1 machines right and just slapping a sticker over the revenant part?
It is like the Simpsons and Family Guy crossover where Peter Griffin takes a bottle of Homer's favourite drink (Duff beer) and peeling back the label to reveal it is in fact just Duff Beer with a different label on.
Tim is really REALLY penny pinching here which he should not do seeing as Apple have over $160 BILLION cash in the bank!

Voting with your wallet, because you have principles, right?
 
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Thanks for all you do!!! You have at least one grateful reader in me.
 
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