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Base 13-Inch MacBook Pro With M2 Chip Has Significantly Slower SSD Speeds
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Yes, it's in such high demand that it is widely available in the entire iPhone lineup. Don't forget iPad Pro.
Come on, let's try not to be sheep.
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So, what do you expect them to do? Just eat the cost of inflation that has been passed to them from parts suppliers and manufacturers? They are in the same realm as every other business that has to pass costs down to the consumer, because it’s costing them more to fabricate and produce yields required for demand.
I mean, seriously. Apple is in a position to make money, and if it’s going to cost them more to build a machine, then somebody has to be responsible for those additional cost to be recuperated.
Sure, but it's not like the 13" M2 MBP SSD is slow. It's not. It's fast - just not as fast at the last version.
Agree that Apple overcharges for RAM and SSD - ridiculously so. But don't think it isn't premium - it's still a really fast SSD. There aren't many good choices in this price range with a faster SSD. It will be fast enough for the target user base.
Why on earth would anyone switch from a faster machine to this machine? If you're talking about people with 13" M1 MacBook Pro's then I don't think many or any of them should be switching to this M2 version. Anyone with an M1 is just throwing money away with an upgrade - I mean, if they have an M1 and it is too slow, then an M2 will be too slow as well. Those folks would need an M1 Pro/Max/Ultra for their work and should not be looking at this M2.
Put simply, this machine isn't aimed for folks with last year's machine. It's targeted at people who are still on Intel Macs, or are new to Macs in general.
Agree. That marginal difference is what makes the market positioning of this machine very confusing. It sets an expectation that it will be 'Pro', but it's really the same consumer class of machine as a MacBook Air with slightly better sustained performance and battery life in a chunkier (older) chassis.
I'm pretty sure the only reason Apple makes them is that people buy still them.
Sure the SSD is slower on benchmarks, but in the real world, most of the stuff that folks will be using this machine for will feel the same or faster than an M1. However, like I said above - any who is upgrading from an M1 is doing it wrong. The people really buying this are coming from Intel or Windows and they will likely be very happy with the performance that they get for the money.
If you want to be down on Apple for something, I wouldn't get on them for SSD speed. I'd get on them for shipping a base model machine that only used one nand module - or for doubling the size of nand used, without doubling the base storage...
Why not just move the base storage to 512GB?
Why not just move the base storage to 512GB?
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Of course good job on Tim. Not only he saved cost on the model most users will buy, he managed to force upsell the 521GB or larger storage to those who knew about this. Double jackpot, and expect another record breaking quarter.
The environmental excuse will be used once he stops bundling chargers on the MacBooks. Mark my words that it will happen. The question is not if, but when.
On a 13" MBP or the other ones, it matters not as the value is still there. On an MBA? Not so much.
Again, 100% irrelevant and not the point. It doesn't matter if the average person doesn't feel the difference or not. It needs to be the same performance as the previous model. Period.
Various auto-makers are doing that, but with retrofit option once the component is available. I believe Ford shipped some cars without the heated seats enabled but you could have it enabled by a chip install later.
The problem is now Apple is using “slow SSD” as an excuse for not putting a feature on older devices (stage manager). With this intentional limitation, I can already foretell how Apple will claim these macs not getting some features from a new macOS because the SSD speed is not up to Apple’s “satisfaction.”
Just watch. They got away with it already, they will do it again.
I doubt they'll go down that road given how laptops are much more versatile. Then again, I wouldn't put it past them.
This is not a flagship pro tho, it's a budget outdatred pro model. Apple only offering it to keep their supply chain minimum order obligations and to keep at least one assembly line open so that they can offer repairs for old macbooks.
Storage is the slowest component of the computer. Everybody knows you can easily boost a computer by upgrading the storage.
How could anyone think cutting SSD speed by half wouldn't be noticeable?
How could anyone think cutting SSD speed by half wouldn't be noticeable?
Let's ignore the current industry news about NAND oversupply.
If it were a NAND shortage, don't you think 128GB iPhone models would be facing a delay? There is no such delay on any 128GB or 256GB product. Not in Apple's lineup and not anywhere else in the PC or smartphone industry.
There is some serious Stockholm syndrome here.
They are comparing a 256gb m2 with a 256gb m1 in an identical MacBook. Did u just want to comment or did u actually watch any of the videos?
this macbook is a joke. i'd be returning that trash and waiting for the Air or even the 14" Pro. but then i wasnt daft enough to buy it in the first place.
And you can plug that into one of the PCIe slots on this expandable laptop?
Just wait for when they’ll say that the new features of the next version of macOS won’t be available on the 256 MacBook Pro.
“This is due to the slower ssd speed not being able to deliver the best user experience for our customers”
“This is due to the slower ssd speed not being able to deliver the best user experience for our customers”
We should all get one and return it.
(It’s just a provocation, before I get a speech from the greens)
(It’s just a provocation, before I get a speech from the greens)
And to add insult to injury, didn't Apple say that some features of Mac OS not available for INTEL Macs or previous iPads REQUIRE faster NAND speed? Did I just not read about this issue or am I losing my mind?
Is the Steve Jobs Reality Distortion Field re-activated from the grave? LOL
Is the Steve Jobs Reality Distortion Field re-activated from the grave? LOL