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I would take un-reliable function keys over the useless, intrusive, more of a headache and chore to use touch bar.

And speaking of keys, it seems like Apple have finally "fixed" the butterfly keyboards which the 2019 MacBook Pros/Air feature the fourth generation of.
no, they didn't...under heat the double key stroke still happens...wait another 2-3 weeks and i bet there will be reports here too. There are not so many gen 4 macs out there..and no wonder why...jesus...generation 4 for a freaking keyboard
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Are you going to run Maya to do actual work on a small laptop or are you going to run it on a desktop?
Clear not on an ipad pro...trust me, i know better since ,based on your questions, you don't use maya daily
 
Are you suggesting professionals who require the ability to code can use iPads now on the basis that in the future Apple might release a version of Xcode? How does that work? In the future does Apple Pay support time travel so developers can pay today's bills with money earned after Xcode is released?

Of course not. The tools are not currently available (although for all we know, there may be professional coders using Swift Playgrounds for some of their work). My point is that absolutist statements about whether a platform is or is not viable can be transient in nature. The arguments here have almost entirely been about the lack of availability of a particular app. If the app becomes available, the argument is over.

An app is not an intrinsic property of a hardware platform. What matters in the end is whether the hardware is capable of running the app. There's a difference between "can't run on the platform" and "hasn't been written to run on the platform."

There have been several comments in this thread that certain apps shouldn't be used on laptops, as they don't have the power of desktops. Seriously? Now we're talking about speed of throughput, or the challenges of working on a smaller display, not the ability to run the code. One person's need for speed may be different than another's, but it doesn't mean one of those users is less professional than the other.

It's kind of like a Hasselblad photographer claiming a Nikon or Canon user is not professional, because his camera produces a larger negative. In the end, it's not the size of the negative, it's what's recorded on the negative that counts.
 
Of course not. The tools are not currently available (although for all we know, there may be professional coders using Swift Playgrounds for some of their work). My point is that absolutist statements about whether a platform is or is not viable can be transient in nature. The arguments here have almost entirely been about the lack of availability of a particular app. If the app becomes available, the argument is over.

An app is not an intrinsic property of a hardware platform. What matters in the end is whether the hardware is capable of running the app. There's a difference between "can't run on the platform" and "hasn't been written to run on the platform."

There have been several comments in this thread that certain apps shouldn't be used on laptops, as they don't have the power of desktops. Seriously? Now we're talking about speed of throughput, or the challenges of working on a smaller display, not the ability to run the code. One person's need for speed may be different than another's, but it doesn't mean one of those users is less professional than the other.

It's kind of like a Hasselblad photographer claiming a Nikon or Canon user is not professional, because his camera produces a larger negative. In the end, it's not the size of the negative, it's what's recorded on the negative that counts.

Well most of us live in the present without access to future timelines, so what you call "transient" we mortals call "reality"
 
If you’re using Maya for work, you’re doing so from a desktop or powerful laptop either with a big GPU, you’re certainly not using a laptop with the iPads CPU/GPU unless you like being less profitable. This is why Maya on an iPad is an irrelevant consideration with no basis in reality. You would be also correct if you said Maya is bad on the last generation MacBook Air, despite it having OSX, you certainly wouldn’t get a MBA to run Maya when there are far more powerful laptops available.

You know this, which is why you’re evading the question.
 
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Isn't this pretty much BS? The numbers compare a dual core CPU with a quad core--and the dual core model isn't even the most recent machine. How about comparing the 2019 with the 2018?

From a quick look at Geekbench, this is at most a small improvement over the 2019 MBP 13".

Clickbait much???
 
I don't know why mouse support on iPadOS is being discussed this much. It's interesting for some use cases, sure, but there is absolutely no way Photoshop on iPad won't be optimized for touch. Using it with a mouse will probably be way more awkward than just using your finger.
 
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My wife’s been wanting a laptop, every time I look at the specs they’re always a few years behind. This laptop’s specs seem to be just right and as stated before in a day where we only see 10-15% incremental increases in speed, this is a good laptop.

I’ve always thought Apple to be a little bit expensive but my wife will acclimate better to an Apple laptop and be in sync with her iPhone than going with MS.
 
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Can you write iOS apps on iPad?
Technically this is just a matter of software being written to handle the task.

I personally love my Macs and iPads but would love a hybrid device to consolidate when on the go.
 
Still 14nm. No buy until Intel 10nm or AMD 7nm.
Ok...like you or anyone has any clue what real-world difference that would make, in advance.
Serious, does anyone really need a laptop that is even faster? What is big the hurry?
Ok Grandpa. Slow laptops make work take longer. Less gets done.
Impressive, but iPad Pro is where you should be putting your money now.
Yeah if what you need is an iPad. This topic is about computers.
Am so tempted to get this. But I am worried about the long term usability of it's keyboard.
As well you should be. No one should be buying any of these until the keyboard is completely redesigned, but some of us have no choice in the matter.
Impressive, so better performance better battery life with this 15W...i guess the Macbook Air is not needed anymore
This should be called the macbook air, but hey, Apple wants that 1050$ price in its lineup
Uh...what?

Decent update. We'll have to wait the post Ive designs to roll out to see substantial changes.
There is no "post Ive". Apple is a customer of Ive's design company. All that changes is the financial arrangement.
How am I supposed to work on Indesign and Illustrator though? What about video editing? Animators? Web developers, etc?

Pretty crazy to suggest an iPad is a sufficient replacement for a laptop.
You can't just sum it up one sentence like that. The iPad has been replacing laptops for people who don't actually need laptops since the day it came out in 2010. Prior to iPad, a laptop was the only way to do a lot of things. The day it was released it made a lot of simple things obsolete on a laptop. Every iteration since then has chipped away at laptop-only features and tasks, slowing replacing laptops for people who don't really need them.

The difference is that there are classes of users that will always need laptops (like me) and no iPad will ever replace it. It matters not what Apple does. This intricacy cannot be left out of the conversation of "iPad replaces laptop" because it just sounds idiotic without addressing it.
 
My 7 year old MacBook Pro isn't that much slower than this. However, those numbers are meaningless; sure it can perform well in short bursts (Geekbench isn't exactly an intense benchmark) but can it perform like that over 15 minutes? 30 minutes? 2 hours? Try running handbrake for an extended length of time, exporting a movie from Adobe Premiere or rendering some kind of 3D animation.

The bottleneck for MacBooks has always been the terrible cooling implementation. Once it goes over the 90c mark, you know things will downclock on the CPU to keep it from having a meltdown.

Yeah but c'mon who buys an entry-level 13" MBP with 1.4 or 1.7GHz for 2+ hour intensive 3D rendering ? Lol. I'm actually a big fan of these low power models and they put up impressive numbers for what they are. As for heat and battery life, I expect these to perform well given the lower clock speed. I wish they had better graphics though.
 
Still no 32GB...

Pretty sure Intel could have implemented LPDDR4 support with Coffee Lake back in 2017, since the spec was finalized in August of 2014, but instead has been jerking us around, kicking the can down the street, while telling us their 10nm fairytales, trying to keep us primed to jump for joy at whatever hobbled dreck they finally ship in Q4 of this year, if it ships at all...but, sure, cause Apple.
 
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I don't know why mouse support on iPadOS is being discussed this much. It's interesting for some use cases, sure, but there is absolutely no way Photoshop on iPad won't be optimized for touch. Using it with a mouse will probably be way more awkward than just using your finger.
I can see how iPad (tablets in general) might be suitable for sketching. For photoshop it'll always be an inferior device. On the one hand the screen is too small (for menus etc.). On the other hand, the screen is already big enough to tire your hand(s) very quickly.
 
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my how condescending! Many professionals use tablets for lots of purposes. Just because certain functions are still best served on desktops and even laptops, does not make the other professionals less professional.
I didn’t say “all”. I said “most”. You are way too sensitive.
 
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It is interesting that Intel is making customized variants of its chips exclusively for Apple. I would really like to know what’s up with that.

What's up with that is that Apple is willing to buy, in volume, and isn't happy with other SKUs Intel has to offer. (Namely, not a single recent 15W part offers an Iris Plus GPU. That's a major reason the low-end 13-inch was stuck with Kaby Lake and not updated.)
 
Its funny, everyone who actually has one, loves it. Except of course the people who write-up lots of complaints in articles. Buy a sleeve, don't trust your laptop to dust in backpacks, et, and you will be fine. And, if not, free repairs for 4 years! Thats way better than Dell
thats a general statement not agreed by everyone, its a mix review, i have it and i don't like.
 
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