He means “tear downs” like iFixit does, not Macs breaking down.Which MBP breakdowns? My M1-Pro MBP is literally the best Apple laptop I have owned, even better than my wonderful 2014 MBP.
He means “tear downs” like iFixit does, not Macs breaking down.Which MBP breakdowns? My M1-Pro MBP is literally the best Apple laptop I have owned, even better than my wonderful 2014 MBP.
I ordered a 24GB MBA M2 with 1TB SSD so I could have 8GB for any VMs I might want to run and still have 16GB for the MBA M2 side of things.Well, really the way to go on M2 is 16/512, which gets to the root of their frustrations with the M2 vs M1 MBA
It's a lot more expensive to get the RAM you should get (16gb) and get away from the "half the speed of before" base SSD on the M2.
Remind me who a "professional" is supposed to be again?The M1 MBA isn't going to be around forever..... I bet come Sept it will be discontinued. The the M2 Base 256 will be the entry level machine. Entry level isn't going to be the best performer. Never has been. People are acting like this is a huge deal.... It's not for professional use.
I don’t want an ugly box on my desk. All in one!Did you miss the Mac Studio release?
Whataboutisms are a clear indicator that something is wrong. You aren’t going to get a direct response when you had to make that kind of leap to justify what Apple has done here.So you’re not going to answer my questions. Got it.
So did any of the reviews mention a worse time handling the things that the audience for an Air does, or is it simply a matter of wanting the lowest end Macbook to be comparable to the highest end Intel based MBP from previous years?
The amount of bitching from people that will NEVER buy this specific config in the first place is absolutely astounding.
This machine, at the lowest end config, will be a massive upgrade for anyone moving from an Intel based MacBook or MacBook Air, period.
The M2 Pro 256GB model is obviously for people who think they are Pros, but aren’t.Remind me who a "professional" is supposed to be again?
Apple uses Pro as a marketing term… but it definitely has Pro models that fit the claimRemind me who a "professional" is supposed to be again?
The Mac Studio is ugly?I don’t want an ugly box on my desk. All in one!
The machine is a better machine than the last cycle even with one 256GB chip. There are a handful of stress tests that showed slower performance, but for the most part, this machine is faster, especially concerning graphics, which increased by 35-40%. Anyone buying a 256GB machine isn't a performance user, while most of the people complaining here probably wouldn't settle for less than 1TB with or without this issue. Everyone who comments that the base should have been 512GB is an example of someone who would never have bought a 256GB machine in the first place. They just want more storage for free so their upgrade to 1-2TB would cost less.Think of the tradeoffs on both machines. You are forced to go with the 512GB option to have a flat out better machine than the last cycle.
Don’t like the word botched, how about compromised?
Or get a Samsung. They have a reputation for cheesing benchmarks and getting banned. S22's anyone?If you primarily spend your time running benchmarks you should get the 14" MBP.
Cinebench is designed to stress the machine to its limits. Most users aren't going to do anything close to pushing the machine to their limits even if they were photo and video editors. Take a look at your usage. If you tend to stress your machines that much, I'd suggest an M1 Pro MBP 14". You'd be looking in the wrong class of machines because you should always provide yourself with some overhead.Okay so now that the thermal throttling has been proven to start just within 5-10mins, compared to M1's 20-30mins. I dont see why anyone would even pay to upgrade this machine (eg to 512gb). Wont it overheat before it starts swapping between the SSD, like during any stressful task?
If it were a cost cutting measure (unlikely since two chips are usually cheaper than one), then why didn't Apple do it on any of the other machines? Why do the 512-2TB machines have two chips? Nobody's ever answered that question. Could it be... lack of supply? Also, if it were done purposefully to push people to upgrade, why are base machines so easy to get while upgrades have a 6-12 week delay? It's a stupid way to push upgrades if none of them are available. The simplest solution is the likeliest. They couldn't get enough 128GB chips.My question is if the skeptics are right, and this truly was purely a cost cutting measure to save pennies… why did they choose this particular component?
There are plenty of other corners They could have cut on this laptop to save them pennies.
Did they really need to include a color matched braided cable? Even the MacBook Pro doesn’t come with one of those. they could’ve easily just cheeped out on a regular white cable for everyone.
Did they really need to include a 1080P WebCam? even the new 13 MacBook Pro doesn’t have one of those.
Did they really need to include a high impedance headphone jack? I mean it makes sense for the new 14 inch and 16 inch MacBook Pro‘s but I don’t know anyone who is asking for that on the air.
See what I mean?
there were plenty of other corners they could have cut, and no one would have even noticed.
Oh, it doesn’t include a braided color matched cable? Well, when has it ever?
It doesn’t include a high impedance headphone jack? That’s clearly a pro thing.
It’s these things that make me skeptical that it was purely just a cost cutting measure, and make me believe that It’s a lot more about supply constraints on 128 GB chips.
Exactly.I remember a lot of these instances. Steve had a strong reality distortion field. He was not perfect. He was the perfect BSer in many respects. But he was also a visionary and a genius. And he could definitely be a penny pinching BS’er too.
I don’t think so. I think it’ll be around until Apple can lower the price of the M2 down to $999.The M1 MBA isn't going to be around forever..... I bet come Sept it will be discontinued. The the M2 Base 256 will be the entry level machine. Entry level isn't going to be the best performer. Never has been. People are acting like this is a huge deal.... It's not for professional use.
Being the CEO of a publicly traded company kinda requires that.The one thing they don’t do differently is trying, by any means possible, to get as much money from your wallet as they can.
Ummm yes. If the user doesn’t notice a problem it’s not a problem.so if they don't notice, it's OK?
The Mac Studio is ugly?
Well it is a thick Mac MiniI'll bite -- I do think it's fairly unattractive
If I had one, I'd keep it under my desk anyhow...but ... you asked
I think it looks good, I have it on my desk and am not ashamed of the appearanceThe Mac Studio is ugly?
Me too. I find the opposite taste odd to me.I think it looks good, I have it on my desk and am not ashamed of the appearance
I think it looks good, I have it on my desk and am not ashamed of the appearance
Me too. I find the opposite taste odd to me.
I don't recall saying anything about someone else's opinion or trying to convince them of anything.All is in the eye of the beholder. What you may like another does not. That is life. No need to convince each other about something inconvincible. There is no arguing about taste.