Guys, you are using the M2 MacBook Air wrong. You should use it like a $250 ChromeBook, not like a M1 MBA.
How is this release botched? Apple either intended the slower 256 all along due to availability constraints at the time decisions were made, or it was a cost saving measure. Either way, that doesn't translate into botched.A botched lineup refresh confirmed.
Think of the tradeoffs on both machines. You are forced to go with the 512GB option to have a flat out better machine than the last cycle.How is this release botched? Apple either intended the slower 256 all along due to availability constraints at the time decisions were made, or it was a cost saving measure. Either way, that doesn't translate into botched.
If you are poor, then buying a brand new laptop shouldn't be a priority. Lower priced products perform less than higher priced products from same company. Nothings changed in hundreds of years, so no it's not getting screwed.
For the intended audience of the lowest powered Mac laptop…is it an actual compromise?Think of the tradeoffs on both machines. You are forced to go with the 512GB option to have a flat out better machine than the last cycle.
Don’t like the word botched, how about a compromised?
As if Steve didn’t do this too.Tim Cook's new vision for the company.
Yes. A product refresh, especially when you are dealing with such a high entry price point compared to your competitors shouldn’t have a critical component of the machine perform WORSE.For the intended audience of the lowest powered Mac laptop…is it an actual compromise?
I’ll bring up the analogy again:Yes. A product refresh, especially when you are dealing with such a high entry price point compared to your competitors shouldn’t have a critical component of the machine perform WORSE.
That’s ridiculous and you all know it.
Looks like the same argument the 12" macbook fans had when it was clear it was nothing more than an overpriced chromebook. The 'don't use it that way' meme exists for a reason.I’ll bring up the analogy again:
If a new version of a car has a smaller engine, but the new style of transmission still results in an overall performance increase in 0-60 times AND better gas mileage, is it a downgrade from the drivers perspective?
M Series are SOC’s (the SSD is only one part of the overall performance of the machine), this is the LOWEST end one and the *intended* audience is never going to see a performance downgrade here. There’s nothing about the M2 that is going to make your standard “I run a web browser and use MS office” user (who the Air is actually for) perform worse.
Which MBP breakdowns? My M1-Pro MBP is literally the best Apple laptop I have owned, even better than my wonderful 2014 MBP.after the MacBook Pro breakdowns don't think people are surprised at all.
If you primarily spend your time running benchmarks you should get the 14" MBP.Okay so now that the thermal throttling has been proven to start just within 5-10mins, compared to M1's 20-30mins. I dont see why anyone would even pay to upgrade this machine (eg to 512gb). Wont it overheat before it starts swapping between the SSD, like during any stressful task?
So you’re not going to answer my questions. Got it.Looks like the same argument the 12" macbook fans had when it was clear it was nothing more than an overpriced chromebook. The 'don't use it that way' meme exists for a reason.
Just because you can pull bad decisions out of a hat to compare doesn't justify the bad decision for consumers here. Companies make mistakes often. It is responsible for reviewers and consumers to hold them accountable.
Though I completely agree, but even if you have 20-30 chrome tabs open and switching between them for any project (as many students might do) they will start to notice the lag and choppiness overall. It's not just about gamers and running "benchmarks".If you primarily spend your time running benchmarks you should get the 14" MBP.
This machine, at the lowest end config, will be a massive upgrade for anyone moving from an Intel based MacBook or MacBook Air, period.
I think that's a misrepresentation.So did any of the reviews mention a worse time handling the things that the audience for an Air does, or is it simply a matter of wanting the lowest end Macbook to be comparable to the highest end Intel based MBP from previous years?
So don't buy it if you don't feel it is worth an upgrade.But not from it's direct predecessor
That's less than ideal.
I think it's a fair point that many are making.
And if you're concerned about throttling while playing games, you should be getting a Mac with a stronger GPU no matter how much you want the Air.Though I completely agree, but even if you have 20-30 chrome tabs open and switching between them for any project (as many students might do) they will start to notice the lag and choppiness overall. It's not just about gamers and running "benchmarks".
Yes, brings it back to what I said earlier in this thread. If this "issue" is of concern to your workload, you probably shouldn't be getting a base model Air in the first place.And if you're concerned about throttling while playing games, you should be getting a Mac with a stronger GPU no matter how much you want the Air.
To be honest, anyone who wants a "basic" laptop should just upgrade to the 14" pro it seems to be the answer. Which in itself is silly. Dont get the base because its not good for any workload, upgrade the ram/storage but then again it will throttle so yah - everyone should just get the 14" instead.Yes, brings it back to what I said earlier in this thread. If this "issue" is of concern to your workload, you probably shouldn't be getting a base model Air in the first place.
So don't buy it if you don't feel it is worth an upgrade.
People are acting like they HAVE to buy the new model each year and Apple is screwing them by making this year's "worse" (even though it isn't actually worse overall).
People are saying it will throttle easily because it throttled while they were running extended demanding benchmarks. The M2 Air will be a superb basic laptop, not to mention even a great medium-level laptop.To be honest, anyone who wants a "basic" laptop should just upgrade to the 14" pro it seems to be the answer. Which in itself is silly. Dont get the base because its not good for any workload, upgrade the ram/storage but then again it will throttle so yah - everyone should just get the 14" instead.
Aka things not done on a daily basis by the demo market of this base model.People are saying it will throttle easily because it throttled while they were running extended demanding benchmarks.
Hell, I have an M1-Pro laptop and I've never run a benchmark on it.Aka things not done on a daily basis by the demo market of this base model.