Baseball Hall of Fame

emw

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That's awesome about Ryne - I was hoping he'd make it in! One of the best, for sure.
 

dsharits

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Congrats to Wade Boggs. He definitely deserved it. I remember when he hit his 3000th base hit with a two-run HR, not too far from where I live.

Daniel
 

MacNut

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Don't forget that Wade Boggs got his World Series ring as a Yankee, And yes Don Mattingly is eligible for the Hall of Fame, 5 years after retirement, he retired after the 95 season.
 

aloofman

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I don't know why it took so long for Sandberg to get in. He was the best second baseman in the game for ten years. Duh.

Honestly, I don't think Mattingly deserves to get in. He was great, but he wasn't great for very long. There was a time in the mid-'80s when he was the best player in the game, but he couldn't put together enough great/good seasons to achieve legendary status. As a Dodger fan, I go through this same thing over Gil Hodges and Steve Garvey. My heart tells me they should be in, but my head says that neither of them really reached that pinnacle.
 

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I understand that Mattingly will probably never make the Hall of Fame but just as a fan favorite and one of the most popular Yankees of all time he should get in by default. If Kurby Puckett can make it in with his numbers so should Mattingly.

I am biased tho as Mattingly is my favorite sports figure of all time and the reason I am a Yankee and baseball fan. I guess thats why i'm not a Hall of Fame voter. :eek:
 

JosiahPB

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It's K-i-rby Puckett, look at his performance in the 91' world series, plus he was the fastest player in major league history to 2,000 hits.
 

MacDawg

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Baseball's Hall is the toughest to get in...
Mattingly won't make it. Puckett probably shouldn't have on the basis of one WS performance. Good players, great players, but not Hall of Famers in my opinion.

A list of those great players NOT in will sober you.

Granted, there are a number of players who ARE in that shouldn't be... but that is not a reason to dilute it even more.

Woof, Woof - Dawg
 

dsyntax

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Counterfit said:
Well, he apparently enjoyed playing in Boston more than New York :p
I was listening to boggs on the radio and he said players no longer choose their hats for the hall. Cooperstown decided to put the boston hat on him, he had no choice, and seemed very happy that he didn't have to decide.
 

MacDawg

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dsyntax said:
I was listening to boggs on the radio and he said players no longer choose their hats for the hall. Cooperstown decided to put the boston hat on him, he had no choice, and seemed very happy that he didn't have to decide.
I will always remember him as a Red Sox
Wonder what hat they will put on Roger Clemens?

I hope he goes in as a Red Sox as well.

Assuming they don't keep him out like Mattingly ;)

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aloofman

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MacDawg said:
I will always remember him as a Red Sox
Wonder what hat they will put on Roger Clemens?

I hope he goes in as a Red Sox as well.

Assuming they don't keep him out like Mattingly ;)

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Clemens is a lock. It's been argued that he's among the top five right-handed pitchers of all time and I think that's true. His best individual seasons were in Boston, so I'm guessing that's the hat he gets unless he makes some big stink over it prior to induction. With Clemens, that kind of surliness is always a possibility.
 

Counterfit

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MacDawg said:
I will always remember him as a Red Sox
Wonder what hat they will put on Roger Clemens?

I hope he goes in as a Red Sox as well.

Assuming they don't keep him out like Mattingly ;)

Woof, Woof - Dawg
Clemens not making the HoF? HA! But I think he'll go in as a Yankee :(
 

MacDawg

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C'mon guys... didn't you see the ;) wink, wink!!

Of course Clemens is going in.... unless of course we find out he bet on baseball! :eek:

Nah, he's in... go ahead and induct him.

Yankees/Sox... could be a toss up
Wish they would do something that accommodated both
I still think he should be a Red Sox

BTW, got my picture made with the Red Sox WS trophy :cool:

Woof, Woof - Dawg
 

jxyama

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mattingly has no chance... nor should he even come close.

puckett probably didn't deserve to be a first ballot HoF, but he's certainly HoF worthy...

man, people didn't pick up on the clemens' joke by macdawg? :D

clemens was a HoFer 5 years ago.
and he'll probably go in as a sox...

i wonder about randy johnson: mariners or diamondbacks? (i'm thinking arizona...)

rafael palmeiro? i think he'll eventually make it... as a ranger or an oriole?

bonds will go in as a giant...
maddux will go in as a brave...
sosa will go in as a cub...
biggio will go in as an astro...

any others who will retire in the few years?

off topic, but i'm hoping ichiro will play enough seasons in MLB so that he can make it with just the MLB numbers... give him 6 more years... ~2500 hits, 4 or so batting titles, 8 or so gold gloves, 1 or 2 MVPs, RoY, a .400 and 270 hit season probably ought to do it. ;)
 

MacDawg

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jxyama said:
i wonder about randy johnson: mariners or diamondbacks? (i'm thinking arizona...)

rafael palmeiro? i think he'll eventually make it... as a ranger or an oriole?

bonds will go in as a giant...
maddux will go in as a brave...
sosa will go in as a cub...
biggio will go in as an astro...
Johnson as a Diamondback - I agree
Palmeiro - toss up for Ranger or Oriole
Maddux - as a Brave, definitely
Sosa - could be borderline in spite of numbers
Biggio - borderline in my opinion

But Bonds...
Not as a Pirate for sure...

But for me... keep him out :mad:

I know, I know... but I just can't get past it.
Its too flagrant, too arrogant, too whatever.

I wish he would retire without breaking 714 or 755
Its the only thing left that he could do to show any class as far as I'm concerned.

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I hope bonds if found of using roids so he wont be able to pass Ruth and I don't want him to be in the HOF, as for Puckett being in and Mattingly not, they have identical numbers so how can you let one in and not the other.
 

MacDawg

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MacNut said:
I hope bonds if found of using roids so he wont be able to pass Ruth and I don't want him to be in the HOF, as for Puckett being in and Mattingly not, they have identical numbers so how can you let one in and not the other.
I'm not doubting you, but post them here for comparison...
just for the sake of the discussion.

I'd say keep Puckett out, but he's already in...

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jxyama

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MacDawg,

that's really cool. i also checked the defensive stats and both puckett and mattingly were gold glovers... given puckett played CF, a more important position, he gets a slight edge, but probably not enough to make one a HoFer while not the other... postseason heroics also helped, but probably not enough as well...

i think the big factor is the "what if?" factor. you can clearly see that puckett's numbers were at least steady, if not improving, when he abruptly retired due to glucoma. such can't be said for mattingly. mattingly played his full career and was great for the first half of his career but then the numbers steadily declined...
 

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