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Baseball Season 2006

1 More Week

Its the final stretch, 7 more days for the teams to find playoff spots.
The Yankees Tigers and Mets are in and the A's are on the verge of clinching a spot. The Padres and Dodgers are fighting for the NL West, as the Cardinals have taken a slide and are only 3.5 ahead of the fighting Astros. The Twins and Tigers continue to battle for the AL Central. The Phillies are only half a game ahead of the Dodgers for the Wild Card.
 
MacNut said:
Its the final stretch, 7 more days for the teams to find playoff spots.
The Yankees Tigers and Mets are in and the A's are on the verge of clinching a spot. The Padres and Dodgers are fighting for the NL West, as the Cardinals are taking a slid and are only.3.5 ahead of the fighting Astros. The Twins and Tigers continue to battle for the AL Central.
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What the? What happen to Phillies? Helloooo the Phillies are first! :eek:
*watches Phillies beat Astros and Dodgers going down* :rolleyes:
 
scott523 said:
What the? What happen to Phillies? Helloooo the Phillies are first! :eek:
*watches Phillies beat Astros and Dodgers going down* :rolleyes:
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yes yes fixed.:)
 
IJ Reilly said:
You stayed for the entire game. Good for you. ;)
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I also stayed for most of the fan appreciation stuff afterward. It was pretty entertaining to see people boo other sections of the stadium.

By the way, my guess about a huge crowd and difficult exit were way, way off. Announced attendence was 49,000, but there were more like 40K there. Because of the fan appreciation postgame, the emptying was spread out. We didn't stop the car until we almost reached the gate at the 110 entrance. Pretty nice.

IJ Reilly said:
So, do you think the Dodgers will at least try to re-sign Nomar for another year?
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I think they'll definitely try to sign him. I think they'll pony up the salary, but might not offer him as many years as someone else. Although he's stayed healthy enough to produce, he's still obviously injury-prone and it's hard to say who will take the biggest gamble on that.
 
aloofman said:
I think they'll definitely try to sign him. I think they'll pony up the salary, but might not offer him as many years as someone else. Although he's stayed healthy enough to produce, he's still obviously injury-prone and it's hard to say who will take the biggest gamble on that.
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Right. I don't think the Dodgers can justify offering him more than a year, given that they believe Loney is the future at first -- so it's a matter of whether somebody else offers him two or more. If he signs elsewhere to play first the painful irony would be that it was the Dodgers that took the risk of playing him in that position.

The guy I don't expect to see back is Rick Honeycutt. The Dodgers now have arguably nine legitimate starters and still no reliable long relief. Who else can be to blame?
 
Twins Are In!

Back in the early summer I was ready to give up on the Twins. Who am I kidding, I was ready to give up on them two weeks ago when Liriano went down (for the second time). These guys are resilient. They can hit. The rookies are throwing the ball well. Hunter got his 30th jack tonight (first time). We had 4 guys batting over .300 and two in the high .290's starting tonight. From struggling to play .500 ball to 30 games over .500 :)

So much of this game rides on the performance of the pitcher - unless you have bats. Just make sure you keep your RS (runs scored) higher than your ERA and you'll be good to go :D

How about this for a turn around!
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Holy crap!

Cards lost tonight and the Astros beat the Phillies.

Oh man, could it even be possible? Go 'stros!
 
job said:
Holy crap!

Cards lost tonight and the Astros beat the Phillies.

Oh man, could it even be possible? Go 'stros!
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What are the chances that the Cardinals lose the division, I can't see them giving it away but Mets Astros first round would be interesting with the Mets pitching woes at the moment.
 
MacNut said:
What are the chances that the Cardinals lose the division, I can't see them giving it away but Mets Astros first round would be interesting with the Mets pitching woes at the moment.
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Mets vs. anyone would be interesting. Detroit too, for that matter. Both teams jumped out to big leads and are kind of coasting now. That doesn't necessarily mean bad news for them though. It's safe to say that the NL playoffs will be completely up for grabs.
 
Cooknn said:
So, this year we may not have any 20 game winners. I don't think Johan Santana is going to get 2 more starts for the Twins. Maybe Wang for the Yankees. I just checked stats back to 2000 - every year there have been at least 4 with 20 wins or more. In 2001 there were 7.

Are pitchers less effective, or are hitters just getting better? I'm thinking the latter :cool:
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Not so many years ago, it wasn't the least bit unusual for several starting pitchers to maintain ERAs near or under 3.00. Now, this is very rare. I haven't checked recently but I don't know that any starting pitcher is under 3.00 this season. I also can't recall when I've seen so many .300+ batting averages, except possibly during the height of the juicing era. Something is going on! New and better juice? ;)

Also, it looks like maybe no team will win 100 games this season.

EDIT: I responded to your post before you even posted it. Now that's really :cool:
 
No 20 Game Winners?

So, this year we may not have any 20 game winners. I don't think Johan Santana is going to get 2 more starts for the Twins. Maybe Wang for the Yankees. I just checked stats back to 2000 - every year there have been at least 4 with 20 wins or more. In 2001 there were 7.

Are hitters just getting that much better :confused:
 
Congrats, Cooknn, on getting your Twins in. Cards' magic number is 5 with only 6 games, but at home and the last 4 are against MIL. If they take just one against SD, they should be okay. Edmonds is back. They need someone to jumpstart them. Last 10 games are 3-7.
 
xsedrinam said:
Congrats, Cooknn, on getting your Twins in. Cards' magic number is 5 with only 6 games, but at home and the last 4 are against MIL. If they take just one against SD, they should be okay. Edmonds is back. They need someone to jumpstart them. Last 10 games are 3-7.
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Try to take more than one from SD. Please.
 
aloofman said:
Try to take more than one from SD. Please.
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We used to turn our caps sideways and cross fingers with the left hand. It has worked, .....sometimes. :)
 
Cooknn said:
So, this year we may not have any 20 game winners. I don't think Johan Santana is going to get 2 more starts for the Twins. Maybe Wang for the Yankees. I just checked stats back to 2000 - every year there have been at least 4 with 20 wins or more. In 2001 there were 7.

Are hitters just getting that much better :confused:
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This may be too easy, but I think bullpens (and statistical averaging) are to blame in part. It seems to be becoming a rarity for pitchers to finish 7 innings in a game, and when managers hand the ball to non-juiced relievers, we're seeing a lot of blown leads (I'd imagine blown holds). If pitchers worked 7.2 a night instead of 6.2, I wonder what kind of difference that would make in win totals?

To IJ's point -- there are three pitchers this season with ERAs below 3 -- Santana (2.7x), Carpenter (2.9x) and Webb (2.9x). Not nearly what we saw even a decade ago.

We're in a hitter's time, though with the emergence of many good young pitchers (Harden, Liriano, Cain, Garza, Hamels, Verlander -- dare I include Jered Weaver?) I think we'll see ERAs decreasing over the next few years.
 
thedude110 said:
This may be too easy, but I think bullpens (and statistical averaging) are to blame in part. It seems to be becoming a rarity for pitchers to finish 7 innings in a game, and when managers hand the ball to non-juiced relievers, we're seeing a lot of blown leads (I'd imagine blown holds). If pitchers worked 7.2 a night instead of 6.2, I wonder what kind of difference that would make in win totals?
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I think some bad luck, injuries, and statistical randomness are bigger factors. In most years there are one or two lucky pitchers that win 20 just because of great run support and they never win 20 again. Back-to-back 20-win seasons are the stuff of superstars (of which there are only a handful), so in a given year it's unlikely that one of last year's 20-win guys will repeat. With a five-man rotation, an injury-free ace would make about 32 starts. Figure maybe five no-decisions, and he has to win 75% or more of his decisions. Pretty difficult. (And the reason why only a truly divine arm will ever have another 30-win season with a five-man rotation.) So it's hard to win 20. Look at it that way and you wonder why it happens so often.

Some star pitchers have been hurt, and the more pitcher-friendly NL has unusual parity this year. I think it's mostly coincidence.
 
I think I may have made this point before, but the win-loss statistic for pitchers is about the most arbitrary statistic in the game. Many years ago when I was a graduate student taking a statistics class, as an exercise I decided to regress an entire season of pitcher's game winning percentages again ERA. As I remember it, the statistical relationship wasn't significant.
 
IJ Reilly said:
I think I may have made this point before, but the win-loss statistic for pitchers is about the most arbitrary statistic in the game. Many years ago when I was a graduate student taking a statistics class, as an exercise I decided to regress an entire season of pitcher's game winning percentages again ERA. As I remember it, the statistical relationship wasn't significant.
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I still think the luckiest W-L record of my lifetime was Bob Welch in 1990.

2.95 ERA
26 homers allowed
a mere 127 K's in 238 innings
35 starts and only 2 no-decisions
27 wins, 6 losses
 
Just checked scores. I'm not where I can see the game, but was Carpenter still pitching when St. Louis gave up 4 in the top of the 7th? Did they just get to him, or what? :mad: I checked the play by play site, but it doesn't mention if he was still in, or they took him out?
 
xsedrinam said:
Just checked scores. I'm not where I can see the game, but was Carpenter still pitching when St. Louis gave up 4 in the top of the 7th? Did they just get to him, or what? :mad: I checked the play by play site, but it doesn't mention if he was still in, or they took him out?
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The Cards are f*cked :(
 
xsedrinam said:
Just checked scores. I'm not where I can see the game, but was Carpenter still pitching when St. Louis gave up 4 in the top of the 7th? Did they just get to him, or what? :mad: I checked the play by play site, but it doesn't mention if he was still in, or they took him out?
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I'm not watching the game, but it looks like he's stayed in for the entire seventh inning.

In other news, the A's are up 5-0 and Angels are down 5-0. Both games are obviously still early, but could this finally be the night the A's clinch? It's been a painful few days...
 
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