Well we know that the Mets are superior in a weak NL East, So there numbers are grossly inflated. The west is always up for argument and the central has St Louis. The American League has the better pitching and stronger lineups so I give the Tigers and Yankees a big edge over any NL team.
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Baseball Season 2006
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MacNut said:
Again, I don't see much basis for making such a comparison. The Mets play plenty of games outside of their division, so their record (the best in baseball at the moment), still counts for something. Maybe not to a Yankee fan, but to everybody else it does.
St. Louis, you might have noticed, is not exactly a powerhouse this year. They'll make it because nobody else in their division is doing very well this season.Any conclusion about which league has "better pitching" or "stronger lineups" is bound to be a gross generalization. Not only are the rules different between the leagues, the NL has two more teams than the AL.
I remember having a similar debate earlier this season about the NL West. The argument being made was that the division was "weak" -- despite having the best combined record in baseball. Maybe it would be a "stronger" division if they had a Kansas City or a Pittsburgh to thump regularly.
IJ Reilly said:
Of course. In recent years, the team with the best regular-season record has NOT won the World Series. Teams like Florida and Anaheim have peaked at exactly the right time. I seem to recall (unhappily) that everyone assumed that Detroit couldn't hang with the Lakers in 2004 too. But the pundits need something to talk about in the meantime.
aloofman said:
Yup. I think we all know that once the playoffs begin, everything we thought we knew about these clubs during the regular season goes out the window. An entirely different dynamic takes over -- and anything can and often does happen.
That dude's a player! Was a viscous break. Glad to see him back... Looking forward to getting Liriano back into the Twins rotation. Thanks to Santana they're still in the hunt.MacNut said:Matsui back after 4 months gets 4 base hits.
It looked like he was on his game. Then it was over. From talk of Cy Young earlier in the year to another pitcher, Tommy John. We might not see Liriano again until after next season. Today it's Boof Bonzer against the Indians - Twins can make up a half game on the Tigers to pull within oneMacNut said:
So i go to the dodgers game last night, sitting through hellish traffic to get there. Pretty good game, but the dodgers are down by 2 when the bottom of the 8th start. I'm getting tired, so I leave, not wanting to sit through more traffic after the game. As I'm on the 101 going home, i hear the padres score two more times. Knowing Hoffman is probably gonna take care of business in the 9th, I turn off the radio.
So I get home and check to see what happened...
I am never leaving a game early again. 7 pitches?!! 4 HRs???!!!!! Nomar wins it with a 2 run HR in the 10th!????
ARGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
man, it would have been nice to have witnessed that live. Never never never again will i leave a game early.
daniel
So I get home and check to see what happened...
I am never leaving a game early again. 7 pitches?!! 4 HRs???!!!!! Nomar wins it with a 2 run HR in the 10th!????
ARGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
man, it would have been nice to have witnessed that live. Never never never again will i leave a game early.
daniel
Dandaman said:
Ha -- so you were one of the people who didn't stick it out? I stayed, and got to see one of the greatest baseball moments ever. In the top of the ninth, I said to my wife, "It's gonna take a miracle." And damned if we didn't get a miracle. When Nomar hit that walk-off homer, the stadium went absolutely nuts. You'd have thought the Dodgers had just won the World Series. I figured they'd have to bring in fire hoses to get the fans out of the stadium. I've never seen anything like it. What an amazing game.
stupid aramis ramirez ... get hurt enough to not play any more ... at this pace you're going to hit some career high numbers and end up getting paid so much more ... sit down!
the cubs have been playing some fine spoiler ball
2/3 v dodgers
2/3 v cincy
and now one v philly
I loved that Zambrano came back and was awesome ... and I love the Rich Hill I've been waiting for a season and a half ...
the cubs have been playing some fine spoiler ball
2/3 v dodgers
2/3 v cincy
and now one v philly
I loved that Zambrano came back and was awesome ... and I love the Rich Hill I've been waiting for a season and a half ...
Dandaman said:
You should never never never leave a game early to begin with, what were you thinking!
IJ it must of been insane being there. I've been at games where people rushed the field before, but I can't even imagine be there for something like this. It must of been unreal.
Here's to the diehard fans! Every once in a while, it pays off huge to stay 'til the last. Though it was NFL, my son and I got to see the Music City Miracle from the 50 because so many had left the game. Great to be in on the history makers.aloofman said:
Sweet! Excellent game for you to go see. I have some great childhood memories in that stadium. A classic. Hope the Dodgers can hold on! On another front, it's starting to look like a miracle season for the Twins. Fingers crossed for both teamsIJ Reilly said:
xsedrinam said:
Not to defend those who leave early, but I can understand the thought process of the casual fan at Dodger Stadium who has kids to wrestle into a car, a long drive home, and possible early start the next day. As much as I love the Ravine, it's one really huge drawback is that traffic after the game is horrendous. The flip side of being in a secluded park on top of a hill is that there are only a few exits for 20,000 cars.
And if I may be completely selfish for a moment, the more people leave early, the fewer cars will be in my way when I eventually leave. Except for the few times they don't leave early. I once went to a Fourth of July game that had fireworks afterward. Naturally everyone stayed and it was a sellout. There was an amazing moment when we got to the parking lot and saw there were no cars driving around yet. We ran to the car, but pulled out of our spot at the exact same time as everyone else. A near-total standstill for an hour. After about eighty minutes we passed the stadium gates to the freeway and made the rest of the drive home.
I have tickets to Sunday's game and it could be something similar. It's the last home game, so it will be a sellout and people may not be as inclined to leave early.
Understood, and I don't have a quarrel with those who need to leave early based on similar circumstances.aloofman said:
My peeve is with the corporate seats where, depending on the stadium and city, (my particular stomping ground with St. Louis), a good percentage of box seats are bought up along with the season ticket holders. I've seen them leave in hordes after the 7th in a tie game 1-1 when the booze stopped and the deal was struck.
There was a similar turnaround, 10th inning walk off win, though not as dramatic as the Dodger game, but I found myself as much pleased that the early leavers had missed it as I was the Cards won it. The celebration was sort of a rite to passage for the ones who stuck with it.
Traffic afterwards of course, is back to reality time.
xsedrinam said:
Or even worse, the corporate seats end up in the hands of poseurs who just want to be behind the plate so they can call a friend on their cell and be seen.
On the other hand, it's the corporate and casual fans that provide a solid ticket base for every team. If tickets were only sold to the die-hard fans, they'd cost even more.