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Sayhey said:
Do you think they will try to sign Zito?

Dunno. I think it really depends on how Blanton, Harden, Loaiza and the rest of the pitchers do. If they're solid, I bet Zito is gone. But then again, going into the season, there's not one glaring need on that team -- unless they get nailed with injuries, it's hard to see them trading anyone.

Funny how even though the Giants and the A's are only about 5 miles apart, they have such completely different philosophies and product! Nice to live in the Bay Area.
 
What is the deal with Kip Wells and this clot that I've been hearing about in his arm. Why not just remove the darn thing and keep on pitching??? They must be worried about it coming back or something... Anybody got a definitive answer?

Being a Padres fan I was sad to see Loretta heading out to the Sox but he is such a class act kinda guy I'm stoked that he is getting the chance to play on such a popular main stage team. He'll kick ass and you Sox fans should count your lucky stars he out there on the field keeping 2nd base nice and solid for yah... now if only I knew the first thing about Josh Barfield:(

Oh yeah and if your a Nats fan I wouldn't be too broken up over b-law's recent labrum tear. He didn't do much for us during his time here and I wasn't too broken up after he left. I'm sure the other guys you've got fighting for spots in spring training will more than make up for what he might have brought in.:D
 
SharksFan22 said:
Funny how even though the Giants and the A's are only about 5 miles apart, they have such completely different philosophies and product! Nice to live in the Bay Area.

Totally agree. The bay area is a great place to be if your a baseball fan. And hey it'll be that much better once Barry leaves!

*ducks flying tomatos and celery sticks*
 
Instead of throwing tomatoes let me quote a Yankee fan of all people.

...This is not a defense of Bonds the man. The truth is, we don't know Bonds the man, we just know the Bonds that isn't good — or doesn't like — dealing with writers. That's his right, as annoying as it may be to the writers. This is a defense of Bonds the ballplayer, who has been lost amidst the hostile hackery.

Ted Williams was not a good guy. Ty Cobb was a violent racist. Tris Speaker was in the Klan and split the Boston clubhouse with anti-Catholicism. Joe Jackson threw games. Pete Alexander was a raging alcoholic. So was Mickey Mantle. Maybe you wouldn't want to sit down to lunch with any of them. Maybe you're such a perfect human being that you treat everyone perfectly and you could only be stained by being in their presence. More power to you. But if you wouldn't give your right eye to see them play again, or for the first time, to see baseball played as well as it can be played, well, then you're too far above the players to love the game.

A great and controversial career is coming to a close. That's a captivating story. Who cares whether a writer doesn't like Barry Bonds? Since when is the writer the story? Give it a rest, colleagues, please.
Pinstriped Bible
 
But I bet you would never see Mantle or Williams wearing a dress. Can someone explain what Bonds was doing?
 
Sayhey said:
Instead of throwing tomatoes let me quote a Yankee fan of all people.

Pinstriped Bible

One could make the argument that good-to-great controversial players are even better for baseball than a well-mannered superstar. It generates more headlines and discussion among fans.

Albert Pujols is a great player and may someday be one of the greatest, but he doesn't generate much excitement. I've attended Dodger games against both the Cards and Giants. The best hecklers could manage against Albert was how his last name sounds like part of one's anatomy. It got a chuckle but no other reactions besides worrying that he'd hit a homer against us.

Bonds, on the other hand, is like a magnet for agitators. Even when he wasn't batting, many of us looked at the scoreboard to see how far away he was in the lineup. What has to happen to make sure Bonds leads off the next inning instead of batting in this one with runners on, we wondered. The outcomes of the at-bats in front of him became crucial. We held our breath hoping he'd get a little under it and just make an outfield fly. I attended one game where he strained his leg stretching for a fly ball and sat on the field for at least five minutes while the trainer attended to him. The fans became buoyant now that he'd be coming out of the game. It was like a great load had come off our shoulders.

Players like that don't come along very often. Whether you're a fan of him is not as important. Few people think Hank Aaron was better than Babe Ruth, but people love debating the home run numbers. How many could Mantle have hit if he were healthy and sober? What if Josh Gibson had been allowed to play in the majors? It makes baseball more interesting and that's good for the game. I would rather Bonds didn't break Aaron's home run record (and there's still a good chance that he won't). But if he does, I'll get to grumble about it for decades. And each time I do, baseball will be injected into a conversation.
 
The only problem with that is that Bonds might be hurting the game and making people more upset to see him then to want to watch him, I turn away from the TV when Bonds is on cause I can't stand to hear him run his mouth anymore. How does he not want the media to bug him yet he goes and wears a dress to draw more attention to himself. For a guy that wants to be left alone he sure does like attention. People would argue the fact that his numbers might be tainted and that in return will hurt baseball in the long run more then it will help the game.

PS Im about to watch Damon's first at bat as a Yankee.
stand up double for Damon's first at bat.
 
aloofman said:
I would rather Bonds didn't break Aaron's home run record (and there's still a good chance that he won't). But if he does, I'll get to grumble about it for decades. And each time I do, baseball will be injected into a conversation.


I second that thought .. But if he does and have a test positive before he retires then he should be striped of the all the current season Homers .. :D :eek:
 
MacNut said:
But I bet you would never see Mantle or Williams wearing a dress. Can someone explain what Bonds was doing?

That was Barry Bonds? I thought it was one of the Williams sisters. :eek:
 
aloofman said:
One could make the argument that good-to-great controversial players are even better for baseball than a well-mannered superstar. It generates more headlines and discussion among fans.

Good point. I have to admit to the guilty pleasure of grousing about Bonds, not to mention needling Giants fans who think the sun shines out of his you-know where. It's all baseball talk, so it's all good. But I'd add that excessive controversy and personality flaws exhibited during their years in the game can follow a player into the record books, and possibly even keep them out of the Hall of Fame, though they might otherwise be deserving.

BTW, plenty of great players are well-remember for just that -- being great players.
 
MacNut said:
The only problem with that is that Bonds might be hurting the game and making people more upset to see him then to want to watch him, I turn away from the TV when Bonds is on cause I can't stand to hear him run his mouth anymore. How does he not want the media to bug him yet he goes and wears a dress to draw more attention to himself. For a guy that wants to be left alone he sure does like attention. People would argue the fact that his numbers might be tainted and that in return will hurt baseball in the long run more then it will help the game.

PS Im about to watch Damon's first at bat as a Yankee.
stand up double for Damon's first at bat.

That's funny that it would bother you to see Bonds and not Damon. Johnny Damon is probably the dumbest player in the majors, with the possible exception of Carl Everett.
 
iphil said:
Yup that was Bonds, You didn't his inflated ego underneath that ?? :eek: :p :D

Until I heard it was Bonds, I was utterly convinced it was one of the Williams sisters, but Barry looked prettier.
 
IJ Reilly said:
Okay, I give up. When and where did Barry Bonds wear a dress?

(At first I thought you guys were joking...)

I caught it on TSN. It was some rookie day thing, team bonding and such.
 
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You think Barry looked bad? Just take a look at some of our rookie prospects! I'll save everyone from having to taste their dinner twice by not posting the pictures and warning you that some of the shots are not meant for the faint-hearted. Particulary one Travis Ishikawa - a minor league first baseman. :eek: :eek: :eek:

Hey, they had fun and the team looks like they have fun together. Sure couldn't say that last year. :p
 
iphil said:
He could do that; IF he doesn't pull his hamstring out Again :rolleyes:


I'm thinking 30 - 40 hrs for Junior :p

well i'd be happy if he hits over 35 homers (cuz that what he had last year)

he's healthy now (no injuries to deal with over the off-season like the last 3-4 years)

he's gotta do good this year, he doesn't have many years left. (he's not on roids and hits 73 homers when he 37 or whatever)
 
Aaaaah...! Why didn't you warn me? Now I'm not going to sleep for a week!

You're right, he does look like the Williams sisters -- both of them!
 
IJ Reilly said:
Aaaaah...! Why didn't you warn me? Now I'm not going to sleep for a week!

You're right, he does look like the Williams sisters -- both of them!

I considered putting a warning there. But who am I to deprive you of the full effect? :D
 
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