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Im sorry but I would think that the Blue Jays should be higher then 8, They made some big improvements and if it gets them into second place it was worth it. If Burnett gets the Blue Jays into the playoffs then they were right to overpay him.
 
Glad to see there was no Yankee bashing in that article. But the Dodgers made some gutsy moves, which if everything plays out right, could be benefical.

The Yankees should just drop Bernie. He is a great player and a Yankee legend but he just is not what he used to be. He should realize this and just retire. His career was an awesome one and it doesnt look to get any better.
 
Sayhey said:
OK, time to resurrect this thread with some real baseball discussion. I'm sorry to do it with something that will make IJ and aloofman happy, but here is an interesting article on rating the performance of teams over the off season. Can't say I like which team is ranked number one, but I can't really disagree with the assessment either.

Any ranking that places the Dodgers ahead of the Yankees is a good one IMO. :)

Not sure why he's so down on Grady Little, though. The consensus seemed to be that he got an undeserved bad rap in Boston. I'm certainly wiling to give him a chance.
 
MacNut said:
Im sorry but I would think that the Blue Jays should be higher then 8, They made some big improvements and if it gets them into second place it was worth it. If Burnett gets the Blue Jays into the playoffs then they were right to overpay him.
They sure lucked out yesterday. I agree with you (for once :rolleyes: ) that the bluebirds should be higher. They've had good pitching for some time now, and that's going to continue with the addition Burnett and re-signing of Lily. We might just have a 3-way fight in the AL East again ('05 doesn't count, B-more flopped in the second half). I also think that the White Sox should swap with the A's, and I guess the D-backs got even better by getting Hudson and El Duque, so there might be a fight in the NL West again, but this time, we can at least hope that the top two will be more than 3 games over .500 this year. :rolleyes:
 
Mini baseball exercise for all who want to play. Go down this list and rank each of the players (1-4) at each position. Add up your scores for the a's, b's, c's and d's and then list them at the very bottom.

And before anyone starts with it YES I realize there is more to a team than it's starters and a lot changes throughout the year so this is purely for fun. I'm just interested in how people rank these players. I'll list my scores later on. ENJOY:)

1B
a)Nomar
b)Youkilis
c)Giambi
d)Delgado

2B
Kent
Loretta
Cano
Matsui

SS
Furcal
A Gonzalez
Jeter
Reyes

3B
Mueller
Lowell
A-Rod
Wright

OF
Cruz, Kofton and Drew
Ramirez, Crisp and Nixon
Matsui, Damon and Sheffield
Floyd, Beltran and the x-factor (Nady)

Rotation
Lowe, Penny, Perez, Tomko and Seo
Schilling, Beckett, Clement, Wakefield and Wells
Big Unit, Mussina, Chacon, Wang and Pavano (Wright)
Martinez, Glavine, Trachsel, Zambrano and Hellman

Closer
Gagne
Foulke
Rivera
Wagner

A's (LAD) =
B's (BOS) =
C's (NYY) =
D's (NYM) =
 
Is anyone else out there enjoying the WBC as much as me? I kinda watched the first couple rounds in passing but it wasn't until the US was knocked out and I heard about the undefeated Koreans (well until last night at PETCO) that I started getting really excited. Yesterday's games were tons of fun to watch and all the nationalistic pride surrounding each of the teams makes the games seem that much more important. I still can't believe that the upstart amateur cubans knocked off the unbelievably powerful Dominicans. Holy moly! I thought if you put Pujols, Polanco, Tejada, Ortiz, and Soriano on a team your basically guaranteed a trophy. But that's baseball, and that is why I am loving the WBC.

Go Team Cuba!!!!
 
IJ Reilly said:
Any ranking that places the Dodgers ahead of the Yankees is a good one IMO. :)

Not sure why he's so down on Grady Little, though. The consensus seemed to be that he got an undeserved bad rap in Boston. I'm certainly wiling to give him a chance.

If Gagne stays healthy, the bullpen should be pretty easy to manage. Unlike HT, the Furcal signing is the one move I'm still hesitant about. Granted, we've been without a leadoff hitter for so long (Brett Butler, maybe?!) that it's tempting to say that there's nowhere to go but up. But for how much he cost them, he better be a major improvement offensively. (Defensively he won't be better than a healthy Izturis.) Especially worrying is that he had offseason surgery and isn't quite up to speed yet.
 
MacsomJRR said:
Is anyone else out there enjoying the WBC as much as me? I kinda watched the first couple rounds in passing but it wasn't until the US was knocked out and I heard about the undefeated Koreans (well until last night at PETCO) that I started getting really excited. Yesterday's games were tons of fun to watch and all the nationalistic pride surrounding each of the teams makes the games seem that much more important. I still can't believe that the upstart amateur cubans knocked off the unbelievably powerful Dominicans. Holy moly! I thought if you put Pujols, Polanco, Tejada, Ortiz, and Soriano on a team your basically guaranteed a trophy. But that's baseball, and that is why I am loving the WBC.

Go Team Cuba!!!!

Even though it was one-sided, that Japan-Korea game was fun to watch. (Of all the places in the country to host a game, there's a rain delay in San Diego!) Lots of hustle and I love the Japanese home run swings. How can you not enjoy watching Ichiro hit? I'm hoping I'll get home in time to watch the final on Monday.
 
I really wish I had watched more WBC. I love baseball, it is by far my favorite sport but I got side tracked and didn't watch it. It also didnt help that USA was knocked out too. I am definitely going to try and most of the final game on Monday.
 
So Japan wins the World Baseball Classic, if anyone cares, That means only 2 weeks till real baseball begins.
 
MacNut said:
So Japan wins the World Baseball Classic, if anyone cares, That means only 2 weeks till real baseball begins.

Are you kidding??? That was baseball at it's finest! It was so great to see players that excited to be playing the game and to see fans that engrossed and pumped up about what they were watching. I can't wait until the next WBC and hopefully team USA feels like a bunch of losers for going home early following losses to Canada and Mexico of all teams. Now maybe we'll play some real baseball next year.

It was also pretty freakin cool to see Ichiro with such a gigantic smile on his face for once. Congrats to Japan for playing a great final.:D :D :D The WBC website sez it best... "Team of the Rising Sun is # 1"

GO WORLD BASEBALL CLASSIC!!!!
 
aloofman said:
If Gagne stays healthy, the bullpen should be pretty easy to manage. Unlike HT, the Furcal signing is the one move I'm still hesitant about. Granted, we've been without a leadoff hitter for so long (Brett Butler, maybe?!) that it's tempting to say that there's nowhere to go but up. But for how much he cost them, he better be a major improvement offensively. (Defensively he won't be better than a healthy Izturis.) Especially worrying is that he had offseason surgery and isn't quite up to speed yet.

I'm not so happy about the Furcal move either, if only because I think Izturis is about as good as they get defensively at that position. He can also swing a pretty darned good bat. People tend to forget that Ceasar was hitting over .330 last season, before he started to go downhill, presumably due to the elbow injury. It's tough to imagine a scenario where Izturis stays with the Dodgers if he gets healthy. I'd have preferred a short-timer stand-in at shortstop who could be traded in July.

Brett Butler, definitely. A great leadoff hitter, and a great center fielder, besides. Dave Roberts wasn't so shabby either. Saw him steal four bases in one game.
 
All I'm saying is that USA should of won this thing easily but they didn't care and I doubt many from this country did. Now other countries were into it and i think that was cool but I can't call it real baseball when the American team was held to pitch counts and half of the players didn't take it seriously.
 
MacsomJRR said:
Mini baseball exercise
I'd do it, but I don't know much about the new infielders for the Sox (well, I know about Youk at 3rd, and a smidgen about A-Gonz, but that's it,) and I think Bill Mueller is awesome (generally speaking), because of his attitude, and his ability to get clutch hits off of Mariano Rivera. (Of course, hitting two grand slams from opposite sides of the plate in one game doesn't hurt either)
IJ Reilly said:
Saw him steal four bases in one game.
I saw him steal a base that won a very important game

MacNut said:
All I'm saying is that USA should of won this thing easily but they didn't care and I doubt many from this country did. Now other countries were into it and i think that was cool but I can't call it real baseball when the American team was held to pitch counts and half of the players didn't take it seriously.
I'm sure they all took it seriously, but placing the tourney right in the middle of Spring Training was not really the best time. It should start about a week after the World Series. It can be The Other Fall Classic.
 
Have we discussed Soriano's unwillingness to play the outfield for the nats? (sorry if I missed it.)

I think it was stupid of the Nationals to make a trade and assume he would learn a new position.
 
Koodauw said:
Have we discussed Soriano's unwillingness to play the outfield for the nats? (sorry if I missed it.)

I think it was stupid of the Nationals to make a trade and assume he would learn a new position.
The Nats are idiots for thinking he would. Most players do not want to leave the position they grew up on. They probably played that position from high school through college and have been selected to play THAT position in the Majors. A-Rod is an exception as he said he did not mind playing 3rd base. He also has not screwed up majorly at the position so it is working out for him well. Soriano should not be expected to play outfield, which is 100x different from 2nd base (he played 2nd right?).
 
Koodauw said:
Have we discussed Soriano's unwillingness to play the outfield for the nats? (sorry if I missed it.)

I think it was stupid of the Nationals to make a trade and assume he would learn a new position.

If you ask me, Soriano should be willing to be the backup catcher in the bullpen if that's the position the Nationals want to pay him all that dough to play. If anything, the Nationals were dumb to trade for a ballplayer with such a bad attitude.
 
cycocelica said:
The Nats are idiots for thinking he would. Most players do not want to leave the position they grew up on. They probably played that position from high school through college and have been selected to play THAT position in the Majors. A-Rod is an exception as he said he did not mind playing 3rd base. He also has not screwed up majorly at the position so it is working out for him well. Soriano should not be expected to play outfield, which is 100x different from 2nd base (he played 2nd right?).

Not every player has this attitude. Some are smart enough to go where the money takes them, and confident enough in their abilities to believe they can succeed. The Dodgers are in the process of refitting one career shortstop to play the outfield, and another career shortstop to play first base. Neither player has any complaints about being moved to new positions.
 
If Soriano wouldn't play left field for the Yankees when they asked him, a team that he loved to play for, Then would not play the outfield for the Rangers after they asked him. Why did the Nationals think they could talk him into playing the outfield when Soriano doesn't even want to be on the team in the first place.
 
IJ Reilly said:
If you ask me, Soriano should be willing to be the backup catcher in the bullpen if that's the position the Nationals want to pay him all that dough to play. If anything, the Nationals were dumb to trade for a ballplayer with such a bad attitude.

So he is just supposed to be the organizations puppet and do whatever they say?
 
Anyone want to help a guys out please

Last year my dad and i won our church fantasy baseball league. Well, now it is time to pick our keepers for this year. And i am having a really hard time choosing who to keep.

There are between 10-12 teams in the league. I can keep up to three and the more i keep the further i go down in the draft (i.e. if i keep three i dont get a pick until round four).

My league starts 5 batters (two infield, two outfield, and one flex), and four picthers (two starters, one closer, and one flex).

I had a good team last year and i ended up winning the hole shabang. So here are the people i can keep:

Manny Ramirez
Scott Rolen
Johnny Damon
Derrek Lee
Melvin Mora
Roy Halladay
Bartolo Colon
Francisco Rodriguez
Victor Martinez
Matt Clement
Chris Carpenter
Andrew Jones

As you can see i had a really good drafting year last year and i am having trouble deciding who to keep. I figured Manny was a shoe in but beyond that i am having a hard time deciding. All in all, i think i need to keep manny and some pitchers (pitchers are usually really hard to get in my league).

Plesae help me decide!!
 
Koodauw said:
So he is just supposed to be the organizations puppet and do whatever they say?

Basically yes. When they get paid that much money they should not complain. The players have to remember that they work for the manager (or who ever) and if the manager wants them at a certain position then that is were they should go. They might not be as good as some at that position but they are all MLB players so they should be able to get the hang of it.
 
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