Its a basic handset feature that is accessible for almost every smartphone except for the iPhone. You would do anything to defend Apple wouldn't you?
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Basic things that Apple just can´t get right
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Its a basic handset feature that is accessible for almost every smartphone except for the iPhone. You would do anything to defend Apple wouldn't you?
Tunster was right - it IS NOT a right to be able to change an SMS tone. It is a FEATURE.
Everyone knew that iPhones cannot change this without a jailbreak.
How is that defending apple? He didn't say "its so awesome that they limit the ringtones!" He was stating the fact that it is up to the creators of the phone to decide what features to include, and it is then up to the consumer to decide if the features included fit what they need prior to purchasing.
Stop trying to start a flame war. It is a mac forum, expect biases.
Even in ip4? there were times, as recent as last night, that I forgot to turn on speakerphone and was able to hear the caller while the phone was sitting on my desk. (obviously, you cant carry a conversation this way, lol)
I hated the speaker in 3g bc of how terribly low it was, but I thought that improved greatly in ip4. Speakerphone volume, however, could still improve a bit. I find myself holding the phone up closer to my face while speaker phone is on, which entirely defeats the purpose.
Blah, blah, blah, blah............
Just like you and a handful of others trying to defend your droids on the iphone forums. I've read your other posts, you queue in on anybody remotely talking bad about your precious droid. Don't deny it.
I agree it's not a right. However to suggest that anyone and everyone who buys an iPhone knows this is not accurate. Not everyone is on MR every day or even asks the "right" questions when buying their phone or other devices. Sometimes you find out limitations through usage and usage alone.
Do you know every thing the iPhone can or can't do. Every element of the OS? I doubt it. And you're probably closer to a power user than MOST of the people who actually own an iPhone...
I have to admit, as much as I LOVE the iPhone, I really feel that Apple overly restrict them. The end result being that the iPhone appears to be a much less powerful device than it actually is.
Whats frustrating about this is that much of the functionality that people ask for are little things. Things that Apple chose to leave out 'just because' rather than for any particularly good reason.
Apple are strange like that
Whats frustrating about this is that much of the functionality that people ask for are little things. Things that Apple chose to leave out 'just because' rather than for any particularly good reason.
Apple are strange like that
how about getting back to topic? so what if i posted a thread on a droid on an iphone forum. i talk about other devices on other forums too. whats the big deal? did i trash the iP4? no.
you're just coming across as a hater.
Yeah, here's the thing, this isn't like most forums. Notice the name MacRumors? Notice how we're in the iPhone forum?
You're right, I would classify myself as a power user. In retrospect, that may not have been the most accurate of statements - but I still will defend it because of 1 thing: A responsible buyer knows about the product he/she is buying. I love a bunch of apple products - not all, but many. When the iPad came out, I wanted it because of the immediate features that were advertised. But, I did not go and purchase it on day 1 and hope to find out about it.
I spent several months researching what it can do and what it cant, what limits apple put on that could be broken by JB, what limits were in place by hardware, etc etc. Granted, MOST consumers dont go this far in depth, but a simple 30 second reading of a review from any reputable site (cnet, etc) would show you the limitations.
and even if they did no research, they probably noticed in the first few days, at which point the return is still a viable option.
either way, my main point still stands: the tones are features.
I have to admit, as much as I LOVE the iPhone, I really feel that Apple overly restrict them. The end result being that the iPhone appears to be a much less powerful device than it actually is.
Whats frustrating about this is that much of the functionality that people ask for are little things. Things that Apple chose to leave out 'just because' rather than for any particularly good reason.
Apple are strange like that
+1 for jailbreak.
almost all of the basic limits that apple put in place can be removed via jb, which then makes it as powerful device as possible. thats why most so many do JB in the first place.
thats the thing about apple - they create their own world - feature a b and c will not conform with my vision of this product, so they wont be included.
yea, that is irritating, but the brilliance in the rest of their hardware/os outweighs the slight extra work of jailbreaking past those limits.
It's supposed to mean that some members of these forums are obsessed anti-Apple, Steve Jobs-haters who are here only to troll and spread FUD.
Yeah - but the same could be said by the diehard apple fans who fail to see anything wrong with Apple.
It goes both ways. And both extremes are annoying...
Not only that, but those apple bozo's will claim that they do custom SMS tones better than anyone else.
Let me be clear about my own situation- I bought the iPhone knowing the features AND the limitations. OVERALL, I still thought (and think!) that it's a great phone. And by requesting additional features both here, in a place where the topic is essentially 'what added features would you like to see', as well as on the Apple site, I just hope to make a GREAT phone even better. Others may have a different agenda, but that's mine. So by asking for customizable SMS tones or the ability to delete individual calls or even an Apple Pie dispenser as part of the feature set is just that- a desire to make it better.
as part of the feature set is just that- a desire to make it better.i think there are a small few that are rabid anti-apple. but there are quite a few in here that do not hold allegiance to a sole company. Yes, its a mac related site, but there should be open discussion on the state of mobile technology and consumer electronics as a whole. It widens our horizon, instead of looking solely into one company.
Steve Jobs, well, hes an ******. but what CEO is supposed to be super nice? I'd rather have an ****** CEO that gets the job done then a nice guy whose too scared to step on other people's shoes.
But I get it, people spend thousands of dollars, if not tens of thousands of dollars on iDevices, so I can see why people would be readily defensive talking dirt about their expensive investments.
Let me be clear about my own situation- I bought the iPhone knowing the features AND the limitations. OVERALL, I still thought (and think!) that it's a great phone. And by requesting additional features both here, in a place where the topic is essentially 'what added features would you like to see', as well as on the Apple site, I just hope to make a GREAT phone even better. Others may have a different agenda, but that's mine. So by asking for customizable SMS tones or the ability to delete individual calls or even an Apple Pie dispenser
+1
It's a great phone, but it really is amazing how much Apple screwed up. I know I'm not the only Apple fan here who became so disenchanted with the iPhone over its numerous troubles. With the iPhone 2G it was mostly trouble free, with the 3G it was mostly trouble free, and with the 3GS it was mostly trouble free. Somehow, the iPhone 4 has just become a whipping boy, and not without good reasons.
I mean seriously, it's an iPHONE, and you can't hold it to your ear without disconnecting calls due to the antenna, OR your ear/face due to the proximity sensor issue, and you can't use a BT headset since the current Bluetooth implementation is completely borked and makes you sound like you're underwater (rumored to be fixed in 4.1 BETA 3). So it's wired headset or speakerphone only!
It's just sad how the iPhone fell, and it did fall, perhaps not in sales, but in the mind's eye and in perception.
And saying that, I love my iPhone 4.
What is wrong with me?
I mean seriously, it's an iPHONE, and you can't hold it to your ear without disconnecting calls due to the antenna, OR your ear/face due to the proximity sensor issue, and you can't use a BT headset since the current Bluetooth implementation is completely borked and makes you sound like you're underwater (rumored to be fixed in 4.1 BETA 3). So it's wired headset or speakerphone only!
It's just sad how the iPhone fell, and it did fall, perhaps not in sales, but in the mind's eye and in perception.
And saying that, I love my iPhone 4.
What is wrong with me?
Not really. It only "fell" from the perspective of those who spend the majority of their free time on tech blogs and Fandroid sites and believe the FUD that was flying during "Antennagate".
To millions of satisfied customers, I'm sure the perception is quite different. Those people just continue to love their iPhone 4 and wonder what all the fuss was about.
Now here comes the biggest issue. Much bigger even than the antenna issue. I can´t believe no one has complained about this!
-Phone ear speaker volume is way too low
I mean my grandmother can´t heart a thing with iPhone 4, but with her old rusty Nokia she hears just fine, which is much louder as it should be. I have a perfect hearing and it´s very difficult even for me to hear the other person, especially when I´m sitting on a bus or somewhere with background noise. I always have to shout to my friends "what? What? WHAT!? Please speak up!" It´s really embarrassing in public places and even more embarrassing that my friends are getting ammunition to bash my new iPhone!
So what is Apple thinking? Why can´t they get the basic things right?
I constantly have problems hearing the calls! It makes me so mad sometimes especially when a POS prepaid phone can hold a decent volume level and you can hear its ringer over even mild conversation.
You sometimes have valuable things to say. And then you muck it up with over generalizations like the one above which make it hard to take you seriously.
I'm sorry but that's simply not true. My brother and his wife who don't troll the messageboards bombarded me with emails about the proximity sensor. Actually, they didn't even know the term "proximity sensor." They just kept asking me why they would keep muting people etc after they got their iPhone 4s.
Apple screwed up this iPhone release, NO question. And you can take that from someone who wouldn't give it up for anything.
The speakerphone is actually quite ok now, (could be too louder and clearer though).
There been actually few cases that I´ve had to use the speakerphone, ´cause I could not simply hear the other person loud enough with the ear piece speaker.
So I would say iPhone is a good device, but not so good as a phone. And it´s main basic feature is phone after all, right?
There been actually few cases that I´ve had to use the speakerphone, ´cause I could not simply hear the other person loud enough with the ear piece speaker.
So I would say iPhone is a good device, but not so good as a phone. And it´s main basic feature is phone after all, right?
No need to get huffy and puffy because I called you out on something you love to do yourself.
My needs are simple. All I want is to be able to lock the orientation to landscape. I know I can lock to portrait, I don't want portrait. I don't want to jailbreak, I don't care if it's done through settings or in each app, but I am sick to death of watching iPlayer or Youtube, or surfing while in bed and having it keep flipping over. I have a small child, I spend lots of time lying in bed with her, this would make my existence just a little bit happier!