My point was that in regards to the ability to measure the heart rate, the Apple Watch can't get you to the same place as a $99 dedicated HR strap can. And that $99 HR rate strap can't monitor your HR all day like the Apple Watch, as the battery only lasts about 4 hours. So they are both great for different things.
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My point was that in regards to the ability to measure the heart rate, the Apple Watch can't get you to the same place as a $99 dedicated HR strap can. And that $99 HR rate strap can't monitor your HR all day like the Apple Watch, as the battery only lasts about 4 hours. So they are both great for different things.
I saw some reviews say HR accuracy was good. One said it matched a chest strap. I have used the mio wrist, fitbit charge hr, and chest straps. Placement on the wrist is critical. I think it is too early to say it can't be accurate. We will know in a few weeks. Testing the workout functions is the first thing I will be doing.
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Understandable. And my point is that it is not just a mirror of your phone and it is not a simple heart rate monitor. In fact, not one of us knows just what it truly is until it's been around and the apps start pouring in. Some are bound to be useful. Even my primitive Pebble watch can track UPS packages for me. It couldn't when I bought it.
There have been a number of mentions in review of apps and one nice article on Wired today, basically the Apple Watch won't run 3rd party apps native right now, hence the title of this thread.
I personally don't think that is big deal. I'm ordered one to use as a watch and to get notifications without pulling my phone out of my pocket. Any additional functionality is bonus.
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Yeah, I've read that too. But I've already read two reviews that seemed to really go in depth about the fitness features that lead me to believe otherwise.
Skip down to the "It won't replace your heart rate monitor." section.
http://www.mensjournal.com/gear/electronics/my-week-with-the-apple-watch-20150408
And skip to Fitness section.
http://www.cnet.com/products/apple-watch/2/
OP I am sure not many people are going to agree with you. I have been trolled and called a naysayer - akin to those who criticized the first iPod - just for telling my mind.
I believe the v1.0 of the Watch is an accessory that supplements the iPhone, if your iPhone is 5 and later. Beyond that, the things it can do indigenously are quite trivial. While it is a smart watch, it acts smart only around the iPhone (5 and beyond). It has a pretty good battery life for a smart device; it, however, does not have a battery life for a 'most personal device' yet.
Let me add here that I do not criticize the idea of Apple Watch, my criticism is only limited to the current version launched (and the supposed 'over booked' status similar to Xiaomi launches). It will also be interesting to see how these people defend their current stand when, many things that are wrong with v1.0 are more or less obliterated in v2.0
I believe the v1.0 of the Watch is an accessory that supplements the iPhone, if your iPhone is 5 and later. Beyond that, the things it can do indigenously are quite trivial. While it is a smart watch, it acts smart only around the iPhone (5 and beyond). It has a pretty good battery life for a smart device; it, however, does not have a battery life for a 'most personal device' yet.
Let me add here that I do not criticize the idea of Apple Watch, my criticism is only limited to the current version launched (and the supposed 'over booked' status similar to Xiaomi launches). It will also be interesting to see how these people defend their current stand when, many things that are wrong with v1.0 are more or less obliterated in v2.0
So the Apple Watch isn't technically a timepiece or a smart device. From my understanding, it's mostly just a thin client of your iPhone as it needs the iPhone for the majority of it's functionality to work including setting the time and installing apps. Much like theTV relies on an iTunes account to do well anything.
I don't see the point of a $400 piggyback device when the iPhone does everything the
What am I missing about this? Why am I not getting "it" at least with the iPad I saw the benefits right away. I don't see any benefits with this. It's an iPod nano with a m7 chip in it.
It's really quite simple.
Apple is in the business of making gadgets to sell. With a very convincing marketing strategy, they convince us to buy.
Beyond that it's just a bunch of headlines that Apple takes great delight in...
Ok.... thanks for letting us know. Ill enjoy my watch despite your problems with it if you don't mind.....even if you do.So the Apple Watch isn't technically a timepiece or a smart device. From my understanding, it's mostly just a thin client of your iPhone as it needs the iPhone for the majority of it's functionality to work including setting the time and installing apps. Much like the
I don't see the point of a $400 piggyback device when the iPhone does everything the
What am I missing about this? Why am I not getting "it" at least with the iPad I saw the benefits right away. I don't see any benefits with this. It's an iPod nano with a m7 chip in it.
I don't think you understand what the word slander actually means because it's a ridiculous word to use in this situation. Don't like the watch, don't get it. Your non problem solved.
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Great... ok stop making threads and move on with your life.... we get it you don't want the watch.Well at least I'm not the only one that just doesn't get the purpose of this contraption. This isn't good at being a gadget, a timepiece, or even jewelry. It's just an unnecessary accessory trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist.
As far as Apple goes I felt they did a better job selling Swiss Watches than the
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You people make me laugh... why would we need to defend our positions? I want the watch, I bought a watch. When V.2 comes out guess what..... I'll get that one too. When V.2 comes out and all the things that are wrong are obliterated, make sure you thank all of us that spent our money on V.1 so you could have an improved V.2. Your're welcome.
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Because some really really need the attention of others.
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It's really quite simple.
Apple is in the business of making gadgets to sell. With a very convincing marketing strategy, they convince us to buy.
Beyond that it's just a bunch of headlines that Apple takes great delight in...
No apple doesn't convince us of anything.... we convince ourselves we need it. Don't blame apple because we are weak.
Well for me it won't be interesting at all. Because, just like each iphone, if it's a worthy upgrade, I'll just upgrade. No defense needed, just an ebay account to sell the old one. I never regretted even for a second buying my first generation iphone, first gen ipad, first gen ipad mini, etc, etc.
Nope, not one bit interesting.
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One thing I fail to see is why people are looking for a watch to replace their phone? If it could do everything your phone could, would you really get rid of your 6 Plus?? I doubt you'd be very happy going back in time to a screen that's 80% smaller than what you are currently used to?? Do you really want to type on a keyboard 80% smaller than your current one??
Even if this was a total stand-alone product that could replace your phone, would you really want to replace your phone?? Zero chance I want to watch videos on a 1.5 inch screen and I enjoy two hand texting.
Stop griping that the watch won't replace a phone that you DON'T want replaced.
Sir I did not compare first generation iPhone with first generation Watch for a reason. While the first generation iPhone did everything that phones of its generations did and much much more, the same is not true in case of the first generation Watch.
Of course, my opinion would have surely been different if the Watch was release somewhere in 2012-2013. You get my point now? Its not that I hate Apple, please understand that.
So the Apple Watch isn't technically a timepiece or a smart device. From my understanding, it's mostly just a thin client of your iPhone as it needs the iPhone for the majority of it's functionality to work including setting the time and installing apps. Much like the
I don't see the point of a $400 piggyback device when the iPhone does everything the
What am I missing about this? Why am I not getting "it" at least with the iPad I saw the benefits right away. I don't see any benefits with this. It's an iPod nano with a m7 chip in it.
I'll buy it for the fitness aspect. the device on the wrist should know about my movement better than the device in my pant pocket. The way I see it is if it can improve my health just a little bit it would be worth it. We all have only one life after all.
And what about the ipad references? They are apples to apples. There was basically nothing to compare the ipad to except the future generation ipads that were a year away. Same as this watch. You can compare it to a pebble... but apple watch it's way better. You can't compare it to any of the android watches because, well, you can't use them no matter what anyway. So the only thing you have to compare this watch to is the next watch. Which may not be out for two years or so. And may be upgraded only minimally.
So is it a risk to buy gen 1? Sure. Just as risky as my first ipad was.
The worst thing about waiting a year for gen 2 is that you just went a year without an apple watch. If you're ok with that, save your pennies. But I'm definitely a "I want it now" type. lol
I carried a pocket watch for years. Eventually I relented and bought a wrist watch. I must confess that I found it more convenient. I suspect most other people did, too (years or decades earlier than I came to that conclusion), and that is the reason pocket watches eventually went out of style and wrist watches dominated the market.
Until cell phones, of course. Then many of us went back to pocket watches, in the form of a cell phone. The Apple watch may take us back to wrist watches again. I guess we will see how that works out.
Until cell phones, of course. Then many of us went back to pocket watches, in the form of a cell phone. The Apple watch may take us back to wrist watches again. I guess we will see how that works out.
I use the iPad, as its a much user friendly device due to it's bigger screen, and ease of use. My iPhone 6 plus will never replace it, world of difference . The Apple watch though, having tried a few apps, on such a small screen, not a pleasant experience. I cannot live without my iPad, the question is, do I even need an apple watch ??
Nobody needs an apple watch anymore than anyone needs any watch at all. You're phone has a clock. The apple watch is a complete want-only item and I want it!
Well at least I'm not the only one that just doesn't get the purpose of this contraption. This isn't good at being a gadget, a timepiece, or even jewelry. It's just an unnecessary accessory trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist.
As far as Apple goes I felt they did a better job selling Swiss Watches than the
It's an iPhone accessory. It's the iOS version of android wearables. Fundementally you are correct, it does not solve a problem that exists, though it's a better device than anything android has by a margin. For some of us , it's a nice to have gadget accessory to out iPhone, that you can happily live without. Question that remains, do wearables have a place, be it android or iOS ?
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I also cannot live without a watch on my wrist, a lifestyle choice, always have , always will. Does not mean that watch needs to be a smart watch. Why should I take my phone out of my pocket when I can check the time on my wrist?
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A pocket watch is cool! Okay not the most practical, but so cool
I know, I'm like that too. Which is why I wanted all the iPhones right from the 3G because I wanted!Ignoring the compatibility issue (for, someone like me would never leave the Apple ecology), if you look at what the market has to offer - not from the point of view of an alternative but from the point of view of technology - then you'll see that Android Wear is more advanced. Its like, if I own a Galaxy S6 with an ordinary display while the market has developed enough to accommodate a far superior 'Retina' display I know my manufacturer cannot install those displays on their own devices but I would expect them to have their own displays at par with the competition. The Watch is relatively less 'smart' than the Android Wear.
Also are you sure about the 2 year cycle? I think its 1 year max.
I have 3 iPad minis right now for my kids and have had a couple for myself over the years. I still think it's a giant iPhone which is why I no longer personally use one. That said, unlike an apple watch it can operate independently so it has a strong purpose. I can't remember the last time I plugged them into a computer since Xmas 2012.
The watch is cool but for me and many. It's not practical at this point. If my car didn't already have it I would be more interested in going for a CarPlay capable unit which takes care of maps, text and such. Using a Mac for both work and personal. With iMessage and text everywhere. Notifications as when in the car are not needed at desk. Typically when at dinner, a bar, etc.. as many don't sit with the 6/+ in pocket. The watch and phone will be within inches of each other on a table.
Again I think it's really cool. For me I can't justify it other than the fact that I could afford it at this point. That and as with Touch ID. It's awesome now with the 6 plus but the entire time I had the 5S. It's highlight was unlocking the phone.
I was wondering if that's where this leads. It eventually gets rid of the iPhone aspect for some people and for others it can be a companion device. I think that's probably 2-3 years out though... The iPhone probably is my least favorite iOS device between the iPad, Watch and iPhone.
Well the cnet basically said the aw heart rate was different vs the fitbit charge hr which is not a very accurate baseline. I had a fitbit hr and it was pretty bad vs my chest monitor.
And re/code said: "The most interesting observation from my workouts so far is that the heart-rate readings Im getting from the Apple Watch during indoor cycling are very close to the readings Ive gotten from a chest monitor. I havent yet seen the kind of wildly-erratic readings that Ive experienced with other health watches that measure heart rate through the wrist."
http://recode.net/2015/04/08/a-week-on-the-wrist-the-apple-watch-review/
Both cnet and re/code said they are doing more detailed fitness evaluations. I don't think anyone has really gone in depth yet enough to come to any type of conclusion. And re/code at least compared to a chest monitor.
So the Apple Watch isn't technically a timepiece or a smart device. From my understanding, it's mostly just a thin client of your iPhone as it needs the iPhone for the majority of it's functionality to work including setting the time and installing apps. Much like the
I don't see the point of a $400 piggyback device when the iPhone does everything the
What am I missing about this? Why am I not getting "it" at least with the iPad I saw the benefits right away. I don't see any benefits with this. It's an iPod nano with a m7 chip in it.
Why are you worried that you don't get it? You don't have get it. (Really, it's OK lol). Some people want a house in suburbs with a big lawn while others love the intimacy of the city. It's called choices - but I think you understand that. I never wanted a full sized iPad - it wasn't useful to ME as an 11" MBA made much more sense. But then the mini came along and I loved the size, but once the 6+ came about I once again have no use or personal need for any iPad model.
All I say is keep an open mind and understand why many of us are looking forward to receiving our watches and will be putting them to good use. While it may not make sense to you, it makes a whole lot of sense to me and others.