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this is a very shiny and good looking Apple device that sells for its looks over it's function. I like watches and so I would have considered buying one of these, even at these prices, if the battery life was much much better. but what actually kills this device is the display. Sure, you can say it's already a success because of the sold out pre-order. But, my point has nothing to do with sales. For function, the display holds back what could be an actually useful device for it's price. I'm not suggesting include no display but retina and force touch do not need to be there. i don't think e-ink would suffice but a lower res screen, maybe not even touch screen.

Then, throw in the unique features like wrist muscle sensors to detect finger movement like the Myo. Maybe difficult to put that into a small strap but it might only need to detect some easy movements for a few gestures for things such as unlocking your car, skipping tracks in a playlist and the feature we've all been waiting for..... making a bouncy ball sound as we pretend we are Michael Jordan.
 
If you don't play golf, start now, get out and enjoy life.........you clearly don't need this watch and don't have to find reasons why you should. Wasting time here if you have no interest is sad.
 
Well the cnet basically said the aw heart rate was different vs the fitbit charge hr which is not a very accurate baseline. I had a fitbit hr and it was pretty bad vs my chest monitor.

My point of mentioning the CNet article was where it indicated (as did the Men's health) that the Watch will read HR from a BTLE monitor. Def' need more tests to say for sure, but this indicates to me that Apple believes there is a reason you'd still use a dedicated heart rate monitor with the Watch.
 
Flashback to 2010: "Basically this is just a big iPhone".
Exactly. Followed by, "does it make phone calls?".

I will say this: if a person's iPhone is never more than 1.5 seconds away from their hand, then the watch isn't much use beyond the fitness features. But I would also say an iPad would be pointless for a person who has a MacBook in their lap all waking hours of the day.

The watch for me is a timepiece where I currently have none (bonus points for the watch face complications), followed by a fitness band, followed by a device that lets me put some distance between me and my phone.
 
Basically this is just a iPhone wrist mirror

Right, and I'll say the same thing I said in 2010: if someone personally cannot envision any usage scenarios for a given device that would apply to them, they should not buy that device. But trying to convince other people that they also have no viable usage scenarios is a waste of precious time that could be spent bingeing Daredevil or something.
 
So the Apple Watch isn't technically a timepiece or a smart device. From my understanding, it's mostly just a thin client of your iPhone as it needs the iPhone for the majority of it's functionality to work including setting the time and installing apps. Much like the :apple: TV relies on an iTunes account to do well anything.

I don't see the point of a $400 piggyback device when the iPhone does everything the :apple: Watch does and more. Maybe at $80 or $100 for the screen & activity tracker. But I don't see the functionality of a $400 device in the :apple: Watch or even the jewelry aspect of it.

What am I missing about this? Why am I not getting "it" at least with the iPad I saw the benefits right away. I don't see any benefits with this. It's an iPod nano with a m7 chip in it.

Some people are willing to spend over $230.00 on a Michael Kors "watch" that is clearly more fashion jewelry than a watch as some of the dials on the face are for show and do not actually move.

Some people are willing to pay $200.00 for a tacky looking fitbit that does nothing but track steps and heart rate.

Some people are willing to spend up to $100 on a portable mp3 player so they don't have to carry their phones with them when they run/jog.

The Apple watch does all these things and more for $350.00:

- stops our obsessive behavior of constantly checking our phones to see if we missed anything.(There was a study done on this. The average person reaches for their phone at least 5 times in 2 minutes to see if they missed anything)


- gives us a quicker and more convenient way to accomplish some simple day to day tasks without having to reach for our pockets/purses.

If you still don't "get it" then it may not be for you.
 
Just because you may not personally have a use case scenario for this doesn't mean others don't.

Many people work in jobs where it's not possible to have their phone with them, or they're strongly discouraged from looking at their phone at work. A smartwatch can help them remain accessible to friends/family. I teach a week long class during which I am required to be "on" for the entire day. My Pebble has allowed me to still be accessible and triage email/texts/calls; I expect the Apple Watch will be even more useful in that regard.

People just have to learn how to integrate it into their lives. The Verge reviewer acted like just because his watch made a noise he had to look at it immediately. If you do that with ANY electronic device, whether it's a laptop, tablet, phone, or watch...it makes you a dick. You have to learn to balance attending to the people around you and your electronic device of choice. But I think it's easier to be discreet with a watch than it is a 5.5" iPhone.
 
Just because you may not personally have a use case scenario for this doesn't mean others don't.

Many people work in jobs where it's not possible to have their phone with them, or they're strongly discouraged from looking at their phone at work. A smartwatch can help them remain accessible to friends/family. I teach a week long class during which I am required to be "on" for the entire day. My Pebble has allowed me to still be accessible and triage email/texts/calls; I expect the Apple Watch will be even more useful in that regard.

People just have to learn how to integrate it into their lives. The Verge reviewer acted like just because his watch made a noise he had to look at it immediately. If you do that with ANY electronic device, whether it's a laptop, tablet, phone, or watch...it makes you a dick. You have to learn to balance attending to the people around you and your electronic device of choice. But I think it's easier to be discreet with a watch than it is a 5.5" iPhone.

The Verge guy was not being fair. The Watch notifications mirror what you have set for your phone notifications. Does this mean his pants vibrating every 10 seconds was less distracting then his wrist being tapped?

Learn to fine tune notifications on your phone and not blame the watch for distracting you unless that is not how it works.
 
Well as someone who drives for a living the watch is a warm welcome. Half my day is spent sitting at red lights and the watch will be perfect just for that. I don't have to worry about a cop catching me taking a peek at the light. I also passed on the iPhone 6 because of size but had Apple pay envy, not anymore.
 
....having Maps at eye level while driving rather than fumble around with the iPhone, limit the number of times you need to take out your 6+ for notifications that just need to be viewed but not responded to, etc.).

Yeah this is a great reason to have a Apple watch. Drive one handed while squinting at a one inch map on a wrist that's being held up at eye level. Jesus, if you have to scramble to find THIS as a reason to get one, don't. Our at least Jeri away from ME on the roads.
 
The Verge guy was not being fair. The Watch notifications mirror what you have set for your phone notifications. Does this mean his pants vibrating every 10 seconds was less distracting then his wrist being tapped?

Learn to fine tune notifications on your phone and not blame the watch for distracting you unless that is not how it works.

Mark my words: this forum and other interwebz is gonna be FLOODED with the same complaint. Yes, you're correct: it's user's responsibility to configure notifications, but because taps on the wrist are SO personal, people will be initially overwhelmed with the same number of ntfcns that on a phone is not a big deal.
 
Yeah this is a great reason to have a Apple watch. Drive one handed while squinting at a one inch map on a wrist that's being held up at eye level. Jesus, if you have to scramble to find THIS as a reason to get one, don't. Our at least Jeri away from ME on the roads.

It's similar to the heads-up display on newer cars. Rather than take your eyes off the road to look at the NAV display smack dab in the middle of the dash (or even glance at your iPhone NAV), you receive the haptic feedback on your wrist to provide directional turn-by-turn guidance.

You don't know what you're talking about if you think using Maps on the Apple Watch requires squinting at a one inch map.
 
Trust me I feel the same way exactly but leave it up to everyone else on the forums, they are about to come in here slander us for our opinions.

No one is going to slander the OP for their opinion. Their post wasn't an opinion piece, it was a question: what am I missing?

They invited commentary. Said commentary is not slander nor a de-legitimization of the question.
 
this is a very shiny and good looking Apple device that sells for its looks over it's function. I like watches and so I would have considered buying one of these, even at these prices, if the battery life was much much better. but what actually kills this device is the display. Sure, you can say it's already a success because of the sold out pre-order. But, my point has nothing to do with sales. For function, the display holds back what could be an actually useful device for it's price. I'm not suggesting include no display but retina and force touch do not need to be there. i don't think e-ink would suffice but a lower res screen, maybe not even touch screen.

Then, throw in the unique features like wrist muscle sensors to detect finger movement like the Myo. Maybe difficult to put that into a small strap but it might only need to detect some easy movements for a few gestures for things such as unlocking your car, skipping tracks in a playlist and the feature we've all been waiting for..... making a bouncy ball sound as we pretend we are Michael Jordan.

Man, it's a shame they didn't have you design it instead of that no talent Jony Ive. :rolleyes:
 
The :apple:WATCH is not a "need" device. (I use the word 'need' loosely as I realize we don't NEED any of these products)

Today, I bought a watch, and I think it's the first device I purchased because I just want it. It's purely want.

If you're looking for it to solve a problem or fill a gap, I honestly can't say that it does. You either want that extension of your phone and the functionality it brings to your wrist, perhaps even the 'newness' and curiosity of it, or you don't care about it. Nothing wrong with either perspective.

Actually, I'm buying it to solve several problems.

1) I constantly miss emails and texts because I keep my phone in my pocket and can't feel it vibrate unless I'm standing still (and even with headphones on, there is no audible notification when switched to vibrate mode - but there IS for calls - which is really irritating).  Watch will solve that problem.

2) I usually use Sennheiser ie80s with an ie8i cord because I like having the remote. Since  Watch lets you remote control your iPhone's music app, I'll now be able to use either the stock ie80 cord (which doesn't have an in-line remote that always snags on dress shirt collars) or even better, my Sensaphonic 2X-S, which also lack a remote. Problem solved.

3) I bought an arm strap for jogging with my iPhone 5 but my iPhone 6+ is too big for it - now I'll be able to go running without an iPhone but still listening to music (wirelessly, no less, with my new Bluebuds X headphones). Yay.

So yeah, I'd argue that the AW can and does solve some problems. :)
 
Mark my words: this forum and other interwebz is gonna be FLOODED with the same complaint. Yes, you're correct: it's user's responsibility to configure notifications, but because taps on the wrist are SO personal, people will be initially overwhelmed with the same number of ntfcns that on a phone is not a big deal.

your phone buzzing and dinging in your pocket is not distracting? Nilay Patel is just reaching for something negative to say. If he is not distracted by his phone than the notifications that go to the watch would be setup the same way. He's full of it.
 
It's similar to the heads-up display on newer cars. Rather than take your eyes off the road to look at the NAV display smack dab in the middle of the dash (or even glance at your iPhone NAV), you receive the haptic feedback on your wrist to provide directional turn-by-turn guidance.

You don't know what you're talking about if you think using Maps on the Apple Watch requires squinting at a one inch map.

..... Whilst driving one handed. You don't know what you are talking about if you can't see that. Having seen the map on the watch last night, believe me, WHILST YOU ARE DRIVING, UNLESS ON A PIECE OF SMOOTH GLASS, which would also be problematic, but driving on a road or tarmac that has...bumps,
Potholes, other traffic on it, looking at a one inch map, whilst moving, maybe in daylight, or even at night, IS going to be stupid. Not sure how haptic feedback will tell you to go left or right. Or to take the third street, or ..Keep away from me. You don't know what YOU are talking about. Finding a defence for the watch I suppose.

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your phone buzzing and dinging in your pocket is not distracting? Nilay Patel is just reaching for something negative to say. If he is not distracted by his phone than the notifications that go to the watch would be setup the same way. He's full of it.

Your wrist buzzing and dinging, whilst you are driving for example, likewise is going to be distracting isn't it?

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your phone buzzing and dinging in your pocket is not distracting? Nilay Patel is just reaching for something negative to say. If he is not distracted by his phone than the notifications that go to the watch would be setup the same way. He's full of it.

Your wrist buzzing and dinging, whilst you are driving for example, likewise is going to be distracting isn't it?
 
..... Whilst driving one handed. You don't know what you are talking about if you can't see that. Having seen the map on the watch last night, believe me, WHILST YOU ARE DRIVING, UNLESS ON A PIECE OF SMOOTH GLASS, which would also be problematic, but driving on a road or tarmac that has...bumps,
Potholes, other traffic on it, looking at a one inch map, whilst moving, maybe in daylight, or even at night, IS going to be stupid. Not sure how haptic feedback will tell you to go left or right. Or to take the third street, or ..Keep away from me. You don't know what YOU are talking about. Finding a defence for the watch I suppose.

The haptic feedback is apparently specific enough to give directional turn by turn guidance and you don't need to take your hand off the steering wheel. Don't knock it until you actually give it a try.
 
The haptic feedback is apparently specific enough to give directional turn by turn guidance and you don't need to take your hand off the steering wheel. Don't knock it until you actually give it a try.

Actually one thing the watch can do is displaying the turn by turn text, the NEXT turn

For example 2 miles on Main St, RIGHT on Sycamore St

A bit later, 0.5 miles on Main St, RIGHT on Sycamore St
Then do HAPTIC feedback on your wrist to let you know you will turn soon within 0.5 miles

That will be very useful since so then I will not have to glance at my phone for the next turn
 
Because you're making assumptions about something you don't know anything about. Your use of the word contraption tells me you're not the younger generation. You probably can't find a purpose for a top of the line Mac Pro either.

http://www.apple.com/watch/guided-tours/

Have any idea how many times I wanted to change what music I was listening to without having to constantly take my phone out just to change music? Or look at a message during a meeting but I can't take my phone out?


I'm 40 so not the younger generation either, age has no bearing on it.
I ordered my  Watch as soon as orders went live because mainly, I want one for my technology fixation. But I also see genuine use for it in many ways. I've put  Watch compatibility into one of my own apps because certain features are far more convenient than having to whip out my phone.

I do agree with a lot that has been said on the forums here and other places.  Watch is not a replacement for anything really. It is an addition to your phone and one that can make things quicker and more convenient. As it matures we will see this more and more. When you stop thinking about what you want it to replace and think about what it can compliment, simplify and enhance. It makes sense. Well it does to me anyway.
 
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