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Batman v Superman, anyone see it? (possible spoilers)

BenTrovato said:
If you like Batman or Superman you're going to think the movie is better than critics give it credit for. We're suckers for watching our superheroes portrayed in a different eras. Objectively, the movie needs help. The story lines are too mashed and thrown together. Lex is really bad. It's one of those situations where the movie isn't terrible but you can see how it could have been so much better. It is sad how in Batman vs Superman, the best fight sequence is stolen by Wonder Woman - if that doesn't tell you the movie is lacking, take the blinders off :)
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Lex was really really really bad
 
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http://variety.com/2016/film/box-office/batman-v-superman-box-office-2-1201739996/

Well all the bad press and competing with the Sweet 16 and Elite 8 didn't slow it down. 420M+ is pretty damn good. I know I was reading where they said it needed at least 800m to be considered a success so they're well on their way. I wonder if it'll have the typical 50% drop in weekend 2 since a lot of people watched basketball instead of going to the movies, so would probably be going this coming weekend.
 
Seen it on Friday and as I said in another thread .

It wasn't the best superhero movie I've seen but certainly wasn't the worst , some parts dragged a little for me but that's like most movies these days .

Overall for me a good attempt and will be interesting to see how the films improve from here .

Still along way from marvel for me tho .
 
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macuser27 said:
Seen it on Friday and as I said in another thread .

It wasn't the best superhero movie I've seen but certainly wasn't the worst , some parts dragged a little for me but that's like most movies these days .

Overall for me a good attempt and will be interesting to see how the films improve from here .

Still along way from marvel for me tho .
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I agree, definitely not even close to being the worst super hero movie. Honestly it wasn't even the worst Batman or Superman movie.
 
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It was my seventh birthday yesterday, so now I am technically too old for Batman v Superman.
 
All of Bruce Wayne's Manor/bat cave scenes were shot in my home town of Metamora, Michigan. The giant house isn't there its just CG, but otherwise it looks very familiar.
 
vkd said:
It was my seventh birthday yesterday, so now I am technically too old for Batman v Superman.
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Oh nice, I figured as much. I couldn't tell during interior shots, but when Bruce is looking out the window and it shows the exterior overlooking the water, it does not look real.
 
I saw the movie:

Ben Affleck was very smart in how he did the role of Batman. He wasn't trying to compete with Christian Bale on who's a better Batman but he took the more advanced military weaponry/Technological route as well as an older more mature side of the character. I give him high rating for this!

The movie critics were pretty much on the spot on why they gave it bad reviews. The story was all over the place and had scenes that didn't make sense. For a movie that's about 2.5hrs. long it fell short of the details. The directing was horrendous thanks to the nepotism of Deborah Snyder giving Zack Snyder the job for the movie. He turned a potentially good story into a directing that was an overly confusing/not suspenseful or mysterious type of confusing either.

As usual, love the DC characters more than Marvel but WB never ceases to disappoint with their usual rushed movies.
 
Well, I'm pretty certain I would agree with him would I bother watching it. But since Snyder's MoS was abysmal I spared myself BvS.

I hated the Avengers flics as well though.
 
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Nope, didn't see it, superman will always win. But if he didn't he prob found out his is one in the same person or some BS?
 
imhereareyou said:
Nope, didn't see it, superman will always win.
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One of the major comic milestones was Frank Miller's, The Dark Knight Returns. It's a seminal work of comic literature, it changed the direction of comics from artwork to story telling (subs of the 4 issue limited series were actually sold through Rolling Stone). Frank Miller is a legend in the comic industry, though his later work kind of suffered and he went a little bonkers, but that doesn't diminish work like Daredevil: Born Again, 300, Batman: Year One.

Anyway, the main concept of the movie was lifted directly from his comics, I'm talking even the visual design (see below). Clearly Superman is orders of magnitude more powerful than anyone on earth, in Miller's work, the 'why' was more important than the 'how' (though the latter is pretty straight forward).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Knight_Returns


Batman-V-Superman-Dark-Knight-Returns-Armor.jpg
 
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tobefirst said:
Can someone kindly explain the basic plot/idea of the movie to me? I am not overly into superheroes (but have enjoyed the Batman films) and don't yet understand why two protagonists would be fighting each other.
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Batman doesn't trust Superman because he can wipe out the entire planet if he wanted to. He says something like "If there's even a one percent chance that he will turn on us, we need to stop him now."
Superman finds Batman and tells him that he has no right being a vigilante and the next time he sees the bat-signal, he better ignore it. I'm not 100% sure why Superman was like that, it was a long movie and I might have missed something.
 
I know it's part of the DC universe, but...


...If Gotham and Metropolis are across from each other, why wouldn't Superman protect both cities as if they were one?

Let's say, for the sake of argument, Superman lives in New York, would he not fight a villain in Newark?
 
AustinIllini said:
I know it's part of the DC universe, but...


...If Gotham and Metropolis are across from each other, why wouldn't Superman protect both cities as if they were one?

Let's say, for the sake of argument, Superman lives in New York, would he not fight a villain in Newark?
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Yeah that didn't make much sense. They talked about all the crime Gotham had in the last few years so why wouldn't he have helped? He obviously helps in other parts of the world as we saw in the montage. And why did Bruce Wayne go to metropolis by helicopter and out of uniform when general Zod and company attacked? He would have flown there and made sure his building was emptied. And why did that guy just stand there and pray instead of running outside with everyone else......
 
TheAppleFairy said:
My wife and I both loved Jesse Eisenberg as Lex, he played the mad scientist role very well IMO. It did seem like a ripoff of Heath Ledger's Joker, but it seemed like a tribute to me and both are crazy DC villains so why not?
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I actually did not get any "Joker" vibe from Lex. The Joker was psychotic...........Lex seemed honestly like he tried to come off as a tech hipster.........I didn't like him at all. Not saying you're wrong, as its up for open interpretation, but I didn't get any Joker vibe at all and found him really lame and annoying.
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AustinIllini said:
I know it's part of the DC universe, but...


...If Gotham and Metropolis are across from each other, why wouldn't Superman protect both cities as if they were one?

Let's say, for the sake of argument, Superman lives in New York, would he not fight a villain in Newark?
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No, cuz Newark isn't worth saving :)


In the comics they were far apart.........this movie is the only work I've seen where they were so close together. That being said..........Superman can pretty much go wherever he wants "at the speed of light" so a cross country trip is probably like us going down the street to 7-11 for a slushy.


Also, did anyone notice how he was able to catch Lois as Lex threw her off the building when he was located in the arctic in his temple..............but couldn't locate his mother, but Batman was able to locate her 1st try?
 
JoshMKB24 said:
I actually did not get any "Joker" vibe from Lex. The Joker was psychotic...........Lex seemed honestly like he tried to come off as a tech hipster.........I didn't like him at all. Not saying you're wrong, as its up for open interpretation, but I didn't get any Joker vibe at all and found him really lame and annoying.
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Can't believe you didn't see the Heath Ledger's Joker vibe in it. I loved Lex in this movie. Thought it was great.

Critics seem to not like Lex because of the Heath Ledger vibe.

Online article said:
Rip-off of Heath Ledger's Joker
Perhaps it was because Dawn of Justice is at least half a Batman movie, perhaps it was because The Dark Knight was just really freakin' good. Whatever the case, it was hard to watch Eisenberg's performance and not think back to Heath Ledger's portrayal of the Joker in Christopher Nolan's modern-day superhero classic. Eisenberg's speech patterns and mannerisms felt almost entirely lifted from Ledger's iconic performance, to the point where he walked the dangerous grey line between respectful homage and downright thievery. We understand why Eisenberg might have wanted to go that route; after all, Ledger won an Oscar for his performance, and set the bar extremely high for all supervillains to come. Still, the whole thing felt too familiar. Even worse, it just made us wish we were back in 2008, watching The Dark Knight in theaters for the sixth time. Had Eisenberg put a different take on Luthor, the character—and the movie itself—might have felt more fresh and original. Instead, everything just felt like a retread.

Read More: http://www.grunge.com/12038/jesse-eisenberg-ruined-batman-v-superman/?utm_campaign=clip
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JoshMKB24 said:
I actually did not get any "Joker" vibe from Lex. The Joker was psychotic...........Lex seemed honestly like he tried to come off as a tech hipster.........I didn't like him at all. Not saying you're wrong, as its up for open interpretation, but I didn't get any Joker vibe at all and found him really lame and annoying.
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No, cuz Newark isn't worth saving :)


In the comics they were far apart.........this movie is the only work I've seen where they were so close together. That being said..........Superman can pretty much go wherever he wants "at the speed of light" so a cross country trip is probably like us going down the street to 7-11 for a slushy.


Also, did anyone notice how he was able to catch Lois as Lex threw her off the building when he was located in the arctic in his temple..............but couldn't locate his mother, but Batman was able to locate her 1st try?
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There's a lot here, but Superman as a character has a number of problems in film. His powers are often overclocked in media. It's generally accepted that Superman cannot outrace the Flash and is not capable of light speed travel. If Metropolis were New York and Gotham Chicago, I would expect Superman to take at least a half hour to get there.

Also, with regards to Batman finding Superman's mother: Batman is, above all things, the smartest of the Justice League members. He would recognize Superman immediately and devise a way to make that happen.
 
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