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I understand your point, however I'm not discussing what they reserve or not. The origin of this discussion was simply that you were wrong when you said Apple "Can't tell you if they have a battery or not", when they actually can, they just don't verify stock numbers. That's my point. At no point was I referencing about reserving a battery or the customer service, you continually keeping interjecting that.



That's your prerogative in what you believe about their customer service, but this isn't related to what I corrected you on. I was simply clarifying what you misconstrued earlier in the post about Apple can and cannot verify stock over the phone, they can, just not actual numbers. That was the point of this discussion.

Actually the origin of the discussions is what you’ve stated in your second paragraph. You seem to be getting confused with yourself?
And their customer service is poor in this situation.
 
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This. It's actually unbelievable. This is why I say that there are going to be B-school cases on this for grad students to study for years. :eek:

But remember....
...none of this is about Apple preferring you just buy a brand new iPhone vs a new battery for your existing model..

Uh-huh....Sure...o_O
 
But remember....
...none of this is about Apple preferring you just buy a brand new iPhone vs a new battery for your existing model..

Uh-huh....Sure...o_O

I'm sure they would prefer you bought a new iPhone. They're a business, it would actually be stupid for them not to prefer that.

However waits related to shortages because of demand are natural. To assume they intensionally are dragging feet to get you to upgrade phones would mean they never run into stock related shortages on iPhones (every iPhone launch).

Has there ever been a thread saying "iPhone X out of stock, Apple must want me to buy a new battery"? Of course not, that doesn't fit agendas very well.
 
I'm sure they would prefer you bought a new iPhone. They're a business, it would actually be stupid for them not to prefer that.

However waits related to shortages because of demand are natural. To assume they intensionally are dragging feet to get you to upgrade phones would mean they never run into stock related shortages on iPhones (every iPhone launch).

Has there ever been a thread saying "iPhone X out of stock, Apple must want me to buy a new battery"? Of course not, that doesn't fit agendas very well.

Sorry for not being more clear..

I'm referring to the general situation of their preference for you to buy a new phone. I'm specifically referrring to the static they give you if you wanted a new one for $80 and their diagnostics didn't say you "need one".

Really poor form. They should always have a price where you can get a new battery at anytime you want. I just commented about it in here as it came to mind - wrong place for it though.
 
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But remember....
...none of this is about Apple preferring you just buy a brand new iPhone vs a new battery for your existing model..

Uh-huh....Sure...o_O

No, I really don't think it is. Tell me: how enthusiastic are you and others like you going to be about going to an Apple Store and buying a new phone? A lot of people will just say screw it and pick up that shiny new Samsung.
 
Considering current actions by Apple, I would not wait very late in the year to get replacements, as there would probably be roadblocks by Apple(no battery in stock) or others trying to do the same(no battery in stock). Maybe late summer is the best time.
 
I am going through the same thing. I actually had an appointment the day after they made the announcement that I had made a week earlier so I was going to pay the higher price. I called and said if I could get the lower price. They said I would have to wait until late January per the announcement. The day after that Apple said we are ready! Bring them in! I made two new appointments that same day (Saturday) for the earliest possible which was a week out. I went in talked to several people they even ran tests. Then said we are out of batteries. I said how long do you think before they are back in stock? He said a few days. This Saturday will be week 1 of the wait. This is not being handled properly at all.
 
Actually the origin of the discussions is what you’ve stated in your second paragraph.

But it still doesn't change that you were wrong to begin with. Post #92, you stated this originally:

So it’s better to waste, for some several hours and long drives, for no reason at all? Because they can’t tell you if they have a battery if not? Not exactly stellar customer service is it?

Which is inherently false and I corrected you in Post #95. However, keep deflecting onto their customer service, as this more of a personal rant for you than it is for me. Again, you were inadvertently wrong what you posted in bold in your Post, however you just won't admit it because you want to deflect away onto how poor their customer service is. Please re-read the previous posts before shying away from what you originally posted that was untrue.
 
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When you have a warranty issue or a recall for your car you have to take it to the dealership regardless if they have the parts in stock or not. If you call on the phone and ask to order parts without the car being there they won’t do it. You bring the car in, the service writer writes up the car and sends it back to the tech. The tech orders the part, you get your car back along with an explanation that the part is ordered and you need to bring the car back when the parts arrive. Apple treats the battery replacement in the same manner. I’m sure in the coming weeks, battery supplies in the store will go up dramatically to meet the demand that is inevitably coming.
Not my experience. Had two recalls on my car, called the dealership to set up an appointment. They asked for my vin # and they said we need to order your parts and would take a week. They scheduled my appoint for a week out. Showed up for my appointment and they replaced the parts.
 
My wife’s iPhone 6 has become useless. Battery goes from 100% to below 20% within minutes after taking it from the charger. She took it to the Apple store back in December and was told battery was OK and she should reinstall iOS. She did but battery issue remained. When Apple announced they would replace batteries for $29 she immediately tried to book an appointment but the first one available was today. Today she left her work and drove 35 minutes to the Apple store for her appointment only to be informed that no stores in our area have batteries available and she will get a call from them in about 10 days when they expect to get more batteries in. The Apple guy at the store told her “everyone is replacing their batteries”.

So here are my issues:
- You make a customer waste over an hour of its working day driving to an appointment that you knew would not happen. Why call in 10 days when the battery arrives and not call in advance to cancel the appointment today?
- if “everyone” is replacing their batteries I think Apple has a much bigger problem in their hands. Are they doing a good job in informing when one should replace the battery? Or is this becoming a new way of Apple to make another revenue stream over existing customers (I am pretty sure that even at $29 Apple is still making a lot of money on this)? Or will this reflect in customers that would potentially buy a new phone to hold on their old ones with new batteries for much longer?

My wife was mad. I am really mad of all this BS.
Your post is a good example of how Apple was in a no-win situation with this overstated battery “issue”. They try to mitigate battery-induced crashing through software, and get lambasted for doing so. Then they offer a reduced cost battery replacement to appease customers. Then the customers get mad at them when other customers take advantage of the offer and deplete their supply. Take a walk in nature and rethink the meaning of life. When you are on your deathbed, is this sort of thing what you want your life to have consisted of? A minor inconvenience in an otherwise technologically revolutionary time that we live in?
 
I have just had an equally horrible customer service experience. I live in a country with no Apple Stores, so we have to send our phones in. I sent in my iPhone 6 which REALLY suffers from throtteling and a very poor battery.
Well, Apple wont exchange the battery because the phone has a headphone jack that does not work anymore. If i want a new battery I will have to repair the headphone jack as well (for which they charge 328$!!!!!!!!!). I don't care about the headphone jack, but that is not an option with Apple.
So now I have pay'ed for shipping and will get my phone back without a new battery.

That is just the WORSE customer service i have ever experienced!
 
But it still doesn't change that you were wrong to begin with. Post #92, you stated this originally:



Which is inherently false and I corrected you in Post #95. However, keep deflecting onto their customer service, as this more of a personal rant for you than it is for me. Again, you were inadvertently wrong what you posted in bold in your Post, however you just won't admit it because you want to deflect away onto how poor their customer service is. Please re-read the previous posts before shying away from what you originally posted that was untrue.

Actually I can categorically state 100% YOU are wrong and didn’t read my post correctly, YOU claim Apple has a policy whereby staff are NOT allowed to inform the customer HOW MANY batteries they would have in stock.

You then highlight my post where I state this because I said they cannot tell you if they have ‘A’ battery in stock, as in plural, as in ONE battery, which again YOU claim apple cannot tell you.

Do you want to move those goalposts any more?

If you want to get down to being nitty gritty in your argument then fine...
 
I have just had an equally horrible customer service experience. I live in a country with no Apple Stores, so we have to send our phones in. I sent in my iPhone 6 which REALLY suffers from throtteling and a very poor battery.
Well, Apple wont exchange the battery because the phone has a headphone jack that does not work anymore. If i want a new battery I will have to repair the headphone jack as well (for which they charge 328$!!!!!!!!!). I don't care about the headphone jack, but that is not an option with Apple.
So now I have pay'ed for shipping and will get my phone back without a new battery.

That is just the WORSE customer service i have ever experienced!
It sounds to me there trying to get out of replacing batteries anyway they can. The headphone jack should have nothing to do with replacing the battery
[doublepost=1515689400][/doublepost]All iPhone 6 Plus battery replacements not available until the spring now
 
You then highlight my post where I state this because I said they cannot tell you if they have ‘A’ battery in stock, as in plural, ..


Last correction in this discussion: Apple cannot verify numbers of any item, you responded by stating it was a 'stupid policy' because of this. They only can tell you if they have the item physically in store, when they actually do so, they just don't verify the actual stock numbers regardless of how many quantity, regardless of what the customer needs for obvious reasons as such.

Thank you for the discussion.
 
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A buddy of mine called the Apple store because his iPhone 6 batter is garbage (excuse the shorthand this was very casual conversation).

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This is likely to verify you are really a customer, with an iPhone that you own, qualifies for the discounted replacement, etc. Keep in mind a lot of people can't even tell you which iPhone they have. Supply is likely limited at this point, I would imagine they will call him back in a month or so.

I'm sure if you lived a VERY long distance away from an Apple store you could make this into one trip through persuasive argument. However it looks like two trips is going to be status quo.
 
So no batteries in stock till spring. I can already see how Apple will probably produce new batteries so fast that they'll 100% have some fatal flaw in them and start exploding like Note 7 did...
 
So no batteries in stock till spring. I can already see how Apple will probably produce new batteries so fast that they'll 100% have some fatal flaw in them and start exploding like Note 7 did...

Their suppliers run 100% most of the time trying to meet demands. This isn't much different.

What I could see being an issue is the Apple techs making mistakes due to the volume of battery replacement jobs. Probably mostly things like forgetting to reinstall the battery connector bracket (radio shielding as well?) and or really shoddy job replacing the screen adhesive gasket (or not at all). However that could extend to issues causing catastrophic battery failure.
 
What I could see being an issue is the Apple techs making mistakes due to the volume of battery replacement jobs. Probably mostly things like forgetting to reinstall the battery connector bracket (radio shielding as well?) and or really shoddy job replacing the screen adhesive gasket (or not at all). However that could extend to issues causing catastrophic battery failure.

These technicians should not be making those types of mistakes that you listed. They have a strict guidelines of policy and procedures they have to follow per phone that they have a double check off before they actually physically hand off the phone back to the customer. I'm not saying mistakes can't happen, but they are eliminated by double checking their work IF they do as instructed.

Furthermore, Depending on the store and overall volume of the business, even other technicians will look over someone else's work to make sure was done correctly the first time.
 
Common sense would indicate that these batteries will be in short or out of supply due to the demand. It has only been a week or two. I would have called the store to ask if they had a battery before driving to the store.

You can get as mad as you want but I can not see this being Apples fault. If you think Apple is still making money at $29 for materials and labor . . . .well that is sad.


Isn't that the point of making the appointment though? If you go through the online appt. process it is specifically to replace your battery. The store and/or apple should let you make an appt. without knowing that they will have a battery available for that appt.
 
Just an FYI, maybe it's just my specific store but I've been on hold for the past 20 mins waiting just to ask if they have a battery for my appt tomorrow. Seems a little excessive to me...
 
Just an FYI, maybe it's just my specific store but I've been on hold for the past 20 mins waiting just to ask if they have a battery for my appt tomorrow. Seems a little excessive to me...

I can not remember calling my Apple Store and not having to wait. Store is likely just opening and there will be lots of people wanting to call.
 
Your post is a good example of how Apple was in a no-win situation with this overstated battery “issue”. They try to mitigate battery-induced crashing through software, and get lambasted for doing so. Then they offer a reduced cost battery replacement to appease customers. Then the customers get mad at them when other customers take advantage of the offer and deplete their supply. Take a walk in nature and rethink the meaning of life. When you are on your deathbed, is this sort of thing what you want your life to have consisted of? A minor inconvenience in an otherwise technologically revolutionary time that we live in?

That is your solution if someone has a justified problem with Apple's customer service?: Just take a stroll, enjoy nature, think about the meaning of life, walk away and do nothing about it? Really? Your downplaying skills are amazing.
 
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