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What do you guys think about this BBC article? Written by a guy 'Dan Lyons'. I know it's his own opinion but I don't think something which is basically entirely subjective of Apple should be posted on the most respectable news outlet in the world's website.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19557497
 
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What do you guys think about this BBC article? Written by a guy 'Dan Lyons'. I know it's his own opinion but I don't think something which is basically entirely objective of Apple should be posted on the most respectable news outlet in the world's website.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19557497

The link does not work, I get a 404 error. And do you mean "objectively" or "subjectively"? Because if you meant "objectively", your sentence seems to contradict itself, as serious journalism shall be objective, unless it is a (polemic) commentary or similar subjective article.
 
The link does not work, I get a 404 error. And do you mean "objectively" or "subjectively"? Because if you meant "objectively", your sentence seems to contradict itself, as serious journalism shall be objective, unless it is a (polemic) commentary or similar subjective article.

Sorry Mr. Grammar King.

Must be something on your side. Working fine on three computers here.
 
I suspect it might be possible the article can't been seen in the US. I'll post it below. Nothing too controversial I thought.

Just a bit of context: The BBC has come in for a fair bit of stick for 'promoting' Apple products over the past few years. Apple's stuff does get a fair bit of 'bandwidth' on the BBC news etc (due in part I think that the BBC's journo's all use them anyway) but it's sometimes seen a subtle promotion by those who use other stuff. (It's not often a product launch gets to be news on the BBC - but the iPhone will). Even I've thought it's been a bit sycophantic at times so I wouldn't be surprised if you start seeing more of this sort of 'balance' in the future.

Also - the BBC news site has gone quite tabloid over the past few years and likes trying to generate 'user interaction' by stirring things up a bit.

Apple unveils the latest version of its iPhone this Wednesday. It will be the first since the death of Steve Jobs.

To mark the occasion the BBC asked Dan Lyons, Newsweek magazine's technology editor and creator of the satirical blog, The Secret Diary of Steve Jobs, to pen an article about the firm's progress over past year.

This is his provocative view.


Somewhere up there, I can hear Steve screaming

Back in 2006 I launched a blog where I pretended to be Apple CEO Steve Jobs. My alter ego, "Fake Steve," had a good run, but I shut it down in January 2011 when it became apparent that Jobs was in poor health. Nevertheless, even now, I'm constantly wondering what Steve would think about whatever Apple is doing.

This week it's the the iPhone 5. Everyone pretty much accepts that Apple will introduce it, and there have been so many leaks that everybody pretty much seems to know what it's going to be. Word is it will look a lot like the last two versions of the iPhone, except a bit thinner and a bit taller, with upgraded guts and a refreshed operating system.


Samsung's Galaxy S3 is outselling the iPhone 4S in some countries
If that's correct, I imagine Steve is not happy. First of all, he'd be furious about the leaks. Steve liked surprising people.

More important, is this really the best we can expect from an outfit that claims to be the most innovative company in the world? This is the sixth version of the iPhone, and the user interface still looks almost exactly like the original iPhone in 2007.

The hardware on the iPhone has been the same for two years, since the iPhone 4 and 4S were virtually identical.

Now, having had two years to plot and scheme, Apple's renowned designer Jonathan Ive has replaced the tiny 3.5in (8.9cm) screen with a slightly-less-tiny 4in (10.2cm) screen? Wow. Knock me over with a feather. What do you do with the rest of your time, Jony?

This is what happens when a company is too cheap to invest in research and development. Did you know that Apple spends far less on R&D than any of its rivals - a paltry 2% of revenues, versus 14% for Google and Microsoft?

No wonder the Android platform, where new models appear every week, now represents 68% of the smartphone market, up from 47% a year ago, while Apple slid to 17% over the same period.

In case you're bad at math, let me work that out for you: Android's market share is now four times that of Apple. Four times!

Worse, despite all its bluster about innovation, Apple has become a copycat, and not even a good one. Why is Apple making the iPhone bigger? To keep up with the top Android phones.

(Phones that, mind you, Apple fanboys ridiculed at first.)

The problem is that the new iPhone won't really give you much more screen real estate than the old one. Worse, it looks ridiculous.

Apple also has become a copycat in tablets. Jobs once said the iPad's 9.7in screen was the perfect size, and smaller tablets made no sense. Then the Android camp had success with 7in tablets like Amazon's Kindle Fire and Google's Nexus 7, and now Apple supposedly will announce its own smaller iPad in October. Talk about thinking different!

What else is there to complain about?

Um, Siri still doesn't work. The oft-rumoured Apple TV doesn't exist yet, presumably because media companies won't let Apple take over their business.

The latest batch of Apple ads were such embarrassing garbage that Apple to take them down from YouTube. Apple's new guy in charge of retail launched a plan to lay off workers and boost profits, then had to walk it back when people pointed out that this was stupid.

The big $1bn (£650m) patent "victory" over Samsung made Apple look like a bully, and also raised awareness of how good Samsung's latest products are.

Last month, Samsung's Galaxy S3, with its huge 4.8in screen, outsold the iPhone 4S in the United States, the first time any smartphone has outsold the iPhone in the States.

Apple got where it was by taking bold risks. Now it has become a company that copies others and plays it safe.

A company that once was run by a product visionary now is run by a number-cruncher - chief executive Tim Cook, whose claim to fame involves running an efficient supply chain and beating ever lower prices out of Asian subcontractors and component suppliers.

To use a car analogy, six years ago the iPhone was like a sexy new flagship model from BMW or Porsche. Today it's a Toyota Camry. Safe, reliable, boring. The car your mom drives. The car that's so popular that its maker doesn't dare mess with the formula.

Apple seems less interested in blowing people away than it is in milking profit out of the existing lineup. At this Cook is doing marvellously well.

Sales are booming and will top $150bn this year, with net profit margins of nearly 30%. That's incredible in any business, but qualifies as a miracle when you're selling consumer electronics hardware.

Apple has more than $100bn in cash. Its market value of $632bn makes it the biggest company in the world, bigger than any company in US history.

That's great for Apple's shareholders. But for customers, who cares? In terms of products, Apple has become the one thing it should never be. Apple has become boring.

Somewhere up there, I can hear Steve screaming.
 
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He certainly has some valid points. Apple need to impress this or next year. The iPhone 4 at its time was mind-blowing and so was iOS 4 which was lightyears away from all other mobile OSs.

Not much has been done since, and Android and Windows based phones (Android especially) are certainly giving Apple a run for their money.

Would Steve be screaming about the iPhone 5? Well, to be honest, we don't even know if these leaks are accurate. There is a part of me inside hoping what we've seen of the iPhone 5 so far has all been fake.
 
Well we won't know until the new iPhone is announced, but based on the rumours, this is shaping up to be the most boring iPhone announcement in the products history. I guess part of the problem is the iPhone and iPad represent something like 75% of the Apple's profitability. This is bad news for innovation, as Apple are less likely to take a significant risk with new designs, as they don't want to hurt the cash cow. The trouble is the competition is starting to out innovate Apple. I am looking forward to the announcement and hope it is something more than a slightly larger screen, with a faster processor and a metal back. At any rate it will stop the countless part / case leak posts that are just confirming what was already rumoured several months ago.

The article is currently the most read article on the BBC news website

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... hope it is something more than a slightly larger screen, with a faster processor and a metal back ...

I'd be quite happy with that - as long as at the end they said "Oh, and one more thing... a brand new Mac Pro Tower replacement... that's what we've really been working on... all you professionals can think of it as reward for twenty years of loyal custom"

But I think that's an argument for a different thread!
 
I'd be quite happy with that - as long as at the end they said "Oh, and one more thing... a brand new Mac Pro Tower replacement... that's what we've really been working on... all you professionals can think of it as reward for twenty years of loyal custom"

But I think that's an argument for a different thread!

Tell me about it, I am still using a 2006 1,1 Mac Pro, have been waiting for Apple to release one with Thunderbolt.
 
Viewpoint: Apple's iPhone launches no longer excite

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-19557497

can't believe some of this stuff.

"The hardware on the iPhone has been the same for two years, since the iPhone 4 and 4S were virtually identical."

If that's correct, I imagine Steve is not happy. First of all, he'd be furious about the leaks. Steve liked surprising people.

The problem is that the new iPhone won't really give you much more screen real estate than the old one. Worse, it looks ridiculous.

Apple got where it was by taking bold risks. Now it has become a company that copies others and plays it safe.

Wow. Knock me over with a feather. What do you do with the rest of your time, Jony?

...

we should get this guy on the forums, see how well he stands up to his claims then.
 
The hardware was not at all the same between the 4 and 4S! Don't know where this guy is coming from. They were only virtually identical in terms of looks (design).
 
The hardware was not at all the same between the 4 and 4S! Don't know where this guy is coming from. They were only virtually identical in terms of looks (design).

i know! in fact it was only the HW that changed in terms of physical content.:mad:
 
While I don't agree with most of the stuff quoted there, it's true that Apple plays it safe with the iPhone.
 
Woopee do to the both of you. It was basically the iPhone 4 but slightly faster and with Siri that would of worked perfectly on the 4 anyway. This article couldn't be more accurate, Apple is getting totally boring with their iPhone releases now.

This is coming from someone who has been with them for 4 years. Time for a change.
 
I like how he says the User interface is almost identical to the original Iphone and the picture next to the text show an Iphone compared to an S3 which displays a remarkably similar interface.

And then he talks about them being a copycat?!

I know the apple court case didn't make apple look good but it did prove that the didn't copy (if they had copied then they would have had to pay the $1bn - I know apple will have to pay some stuff but noting close to the full samsung fine)
 
I seriously don't understand why people think there should be something "revolutionary" every year or so. It just doesn't happen that way. Tech matures and evolves. Thats alls smartphones are doing at the moment.

Things have changed drastically in a relatively short space of time and people are expecting a little too much to expect it to happen all the time. I don't think "the next big thing" will be happening any time soon.
 
I seriously don't understand why people think there should be something "revolutionary" every year or so. It just doesn't happen that way. Tech matures and evolves. Thats alls smartphones are doing at the moment.

Things have changed drastically in a relatively short space of time and people are expecting a little too much to expect it to happen all the time. I don't think "the next big thing" will be happening any time soon.

Is that your excuse for why the iPhone will most likely not change appearance for three iterations?
 
I seriously don't understand why people think there should be something "revolutionary" every year or so. It just doesn't happen that way. Tech matures and evolves.

This is so true,

Imagine if other things like games consoles where expected to be 'revolutionised' every year, we'd all be bankrupt, i've had my xbox for ages and it still plays the games. They work on a much longer cycle but i don't see people complaining about that.
 
Is that your excuse for why the iPhone will most likely not change appearance for three iterations?

My excuse? Why should I make excuses? Do you just want a change in appearance for changes sake? So you can show off to your friends you have the new model and people can't confuse it for an older model?

I'd rather have a refined similar looking model rather than a drastic new one that causes all sorts of problems.
 
I seriously don't understand why people think there should be something "revolutionary" every year or so. It just doesn't happen that way. Tech matures and evolves. Thats alls smartphones are doing at the moment.

Apple created all this hype around their product, people bought into it, and now they expect to be blown away with each release.
 
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