Youre deflecting. Apples biggest product are phones and they've been playing it safe.
Im not arguing, Im just saying that Apple is capable of doing far more than we're getting.
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BBC Article - Viewpoint: Apple's iPhone launches no longer excite [MERGED]
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Im not arguing, Im just saying that Apple is capable of doing far more than we're getting.
It's ever so slightly thinner, has a different material on the back and has a slightly stretched screen?? Glad your happy. How do you know btw, that the battery capacity is better?
But BMW is bigger in the US than Germany. It doesn't matter whether VW is bigger than BMW bigger in Germany. My point is that sometimes a company's home market isn't its largest or most important.
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How would adding a 5" screen be "revolutionary"? There's not much else they can do with the physical design. The physical design of Samsung Galaxy phones hasn't changed much either (each one is a big rectangular plastic-bodied phone with a large screen in front).
They have significantly upgraded the internals with each revision, pushed the envelope with display technology, and are using a new manufacturing process. As for their being late with LTE, that's nothing new. The first iPhone was EDGE in a 3G market, again because of battery life. Anyone who knew Qualcomm's chipset schedule knew that LTE would likely be a 2012 addition for the iPhone, since that's when the 28nm chips became available.
not talking about the largest or most important we're talking about market share % and why apples highest % is in the USA.
would you like to tell us why if its not because they're an american company?
I absolutely love my iPhone and iPad but Apple is definitely starting to stagnate.
The last big innovation that Apple made was upgrading all their devices to super high fidelty retina resolutions. Steve Jobs had his hands all over that.
Before that was the iPad.
Prior to that, the last big innovation by Apple was the Macbook Air, practically inventing the Ultrabook segment of the laptop market.
But since Steve Jobs' passing, I have yet to see any actual pushing of technology by Apple.
Stop focusing on profits and start focusing on revolutioning another market segment Tim. That's what Steve Jobs would be doing if he was alive today.
The last big innovation that Apple made was upgrading all their devices to super high fidelty retina resolutions. Steve Jobs had his hands all over that.
Before that was the iPad.
Prior to that, the last big innovation by Apple was the Macbook Air, practically inventing the Ultrabook segment of the laptop market.
But since Steve Jobs' passing, I have yet to see any actual pushing of technology by Apple.
Stop focusing on profits and start focusing on revolutioning another market segment Tim. That's what Steve Jobs would be doing if he was alive today.
Perhaps its because they sell a product that people want to buy? Americans generally have no problems buying products from non-US companies. Samsung has a large market share, not just in terms of phones, but also TVs and appliances in the US. I can't even name a US TV manufacturer (there may not be any). The best selling car in the US for many years was the Toyota Camry (and before that the Honda Accord).
And this attitude lends it legitimacy. It is possible to have an opinion without being paid off. (Furthur to that it is possible to be a paid corporate representative, and STILL have a legitimate view).
The last update WAS evolutionary, not revolutionary. IOS hasn't changed much in years. The point for me is that, that isn't necesarrily a a bad thing. They JUST changed everything *again* with the IPAD. Excpecting any company to do this every year is just rediculous.
In fact, if we had a revolution in the computing zeitgiest every year, we'd never had any standards!
of course you must first have a product people want to buy but after that the fact theyre amercian helps their sales.
if home territory wasnt a factor they would reproduce that market share in other countries or worldwide. they dont
Take nokia windows mobile phones they're from finland. Guess where nokia windows phones have the largest market share?
I'm not saying it isn't a factor, but it isn't the only important factor. Apple is #1 in the UK, as well. Nokia used to be #1 in most of the world, not just Finland.
yeah uk is full of isheep but also have no mobile phone company like nokia, samsung or apple of their own. Android as a whole outsells ios in the UK . The samsung s2 was outselling the 4s last year in the uk dont know how the totals ended up. But apples market share in the UK is not as high is it is in the USA
at least youve finally conceded home territory is a factor for these companies. well done.
I agree with what is at the core of this article. This year I'm just not as bothered. Made my usual once a day check of the MR front page, came for a quick look on the forums, found this thread, sums it up perfectly. It doesn't feel like an announcement day. Not sure if it's Apple that has changed or just my priorities, but I know that in 2 hours time I won't be on the Engadget feed furiously hitting the refresh button, or heading to the Apple Store and contemplating placing a pre-order. Just doesn't feel like as much hype this year after what was a fairly disappointing WWDC (imo).
There's lots of S-Sheep in the UK and China. At least you've conceded that home territory isn't the only factor for these companies. Well done.
On the other hand, would you argue that the UK likes smartphones because ARM is a British company?
no but i bet everyone there is very happy arm are british and doing well. i know i am.
if a british company existed that produced high quality mobiles like samsung the british public would be all over it and i gurantee it's biggest market share would be in the UK
imo it would take at least another 1 or 2 underwhelming devices from apple to really affect them. Even then the stuff is still solid- OS, smoothness & ecosystem.
thats where apple have their customers by the balls. Its a real PITA for an everage consumer to come off itunes onto something else and get it synching etc
thats where apple have their customers by the balls. Its a real PITA for an everage consumer to come off itunes onto something else and get it synching etc
Dan Lyons has nothing to lose here, in fact, he is getting paid to pontificate. Pretty sweet gig, if you ask me. If Apple does manage to pull off a major wow factor this morning, then he's just another naysayer proven wrong. If not, then he can celebrate in his glory at having been paid to opine about how Apple has really let us all down. Personally, I think he's hoping that Apple will be influenced, nay shamed, by his opinion and realize that they need him on the team to help get this foundering ship righted and back on course! Fake Steve Jobs indeed!
I agree with almost all of the article.
The iPhone's become predictable - before we even saw any leaks, it was almost a given that it would have LTE. A slightly different design. A slightly bigger screen.
Nothing is revolutionary here. Before everyone shoots me down on the whole evolution/revolution stuff, phones move faster than other tech. It may be one of the only things people update regularly. People want better 'stuff', and now iPhones aren't giving them revolution.
I still think its one of the best phones on the market, but I don't think that'll last long if this pace continues.
The iPhone's become predictable - before we even saw any leaks, it was almost a given that it would have LTE. A slightly different design. A slightly bigger screen.
Nothing is revolutionary here. Before everyone shoots me down on the whole evolution/revolution stuff, phones move faster than other tech. It may be one of the only things people update regularly. People want better 'stuff', and now iPhones aren't giving them revolution.
I still think its one of the best phones on the market, but I don't think that'll last long if this pace continues.
Here is an article on mashable that addresses some of the same issue but comes from a different angle
http://mashable.com/2012/09/11/iphone-5-launch/
I agree with many of the points and maybe we do need to save our excitement for the next category Apple tackles rather than waiting for the next revolution in Phones.
For the record, I am a bit of an Apple fanboy and have had an iPhone since the first iteration but I think I will be making the jump to the Galaxy SIII - it just doesn't wow and excite me anymore
http://mashable.com/2012/09/11/iphone-5-launch/
I agree with many of the points and maybe we do need to save our excitement for the next category Apple tackles rather than waiting for the next revolution in Phones.
For the record, I am a bit of an Apple fanboy and have had an iPhone since the first iteration but I think I will be making the jump to the Galaxy SIII - it just doesn't wow and excite me anymore
The article is simply brilliant.
If you are disagreeing with what Lyons says in the column, you are a fanboy, plain and simple.
I can't stand when an intelligent individual shares his opinion (which also happens to be factually accurate) and unabashed fanboys have to come out and start bashing the guy and nitpicking at things in his column that have nothing to do with his overriding point which is spot on.
I say all this as a five year iPhone user, since day one, who switched to the GS3 to find that Apple truly is no longer the great innovator.
I was holding out hope that Apple would respond with the iPhone 5, but it is apparent that isn't going to happen.
Sadly, people will buy this non-innovative handset which has a glaring omission of Google Maps replaced by a far inferior Apple Maps app. This is the first iPhone launch in which I'm going into it with the mindset that I will not buy it.
If Apple blows me away in 45 minutes, then I will happily change my tune, but I'm not holding my breath.
If you are disagreeing with what Lyons says in the column, you are a fanboy, plain and simple.
I can't stand when an intelligent individual shares his opinion (which also happens to be factually accurate) and unabashed fanboys have to come out and start bashing the guy and nitpicking at things in his column that have nothing to do with his overriding point which is spot on.
I say all this as a five year iPhone user, since day one, who switched to the GS3 to find that Apple truly is no longer the great innovator.
I was holding out hope that Apple would respond with the iPhone 5, but it is apparent that isn't going to happen.
Sadly, people will buy this non-innovative handset which has a glaring omission of Google Maps replaced by a far inferior Apple Maps app. This is the first iPhone launch in which I'm going into it with the mindset that I will not buy it.
If Apple blows me away in 45 minutes, then I will happily change my tune, but I'm not holding my breath.