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Lots of haters in here. I have a pair of beats solo HD's (that my loving wife bought for me as a bday present) and knowing the bad wrap they had gotten all over I was expecting the worst sound out of an expensive package.
Before i go on i listen to alot of music everyday with different headphones from in ear sonys and jvcs to on ear and over ear....I am also an aspiring producer working with logic pro and a pair of Audio technicas (monitors) which are a great pair of headphones. I put on the beats and was actually surprised how good they actually sounded. The lows were great and mids and highs were decent. I use them all the time when listening to music on my iPhone due to the light weight and comfort that they have.
Sure they ($199) but I think they're not that overpriced as people seem to brag about!!
 
Funny how you claim to not know who he is, yet you know his name is "Dr. Dre" as the headphones are called simply Beats by Dre.

Well, I know that there are headphones called Beats by Dr. Dre supported by someone named Dr. Dre. That's about it.

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Lots of haters in here. I have a pair of beats solo HD's (that my loving wife bought for me as a bday present) and knowing the bad wrap they had gotten all over I was expecting the worst sound out of an expensive package.
Before i go on i listen to alot of music everyday with different headphones from in ear sonys and jvcs to on ear and over ear....I am also an aspiring producer working with logic pro and a pair of Audio technicas (monitors) which are a great pair of headphones. I put on the beats and was actually surprised how good they actually sounded. The lows were great and mids and highs were decent. I use them all the time when listening to music on my iPhone due to the light weight and comfort that they have.
Sure they ($199) but I think they're not that overpriced as people seem to brag about!!

People saying that Beats are bad headphones are just haters. Sure they're good, but not for the price. Same goes with Bose, according to audiophiles here. I've tried my nice $40 Sony headphones vs $400 Beats, and the Sony headphones sound a little better.
 
People saying that Beats are bad headphones are just haters. Sure they're good, but not for the price. Same goes with Bose, according to audiophiles here. I've tried my nice $40 Sony headphones vs $400 Beats, and the Sony headphones sound a little better.
The reason people are saying Beats are bad headphones is because Beats are bad headphones. Bose are also crap. Why pay that much money when you can either buy something much better for less, or exponentially better for the same price?
 
The reason people are saying Beats are bad headphones is because Beats are bad headphones. Bose are also crap. Why pay that much money when you can either buy something much better for less, or exponentially better for the same price?

Ignoring the cost, they're good compared to average headphones. Also, "exponentially better" doesn't make sense.
 
Ignoring the cost, they're good compared to average headphones. Also, "exponentially better" doesn't make sense.
I'm sorry, "dramatically" better.

And why would you ignore the cost? That's the point. :rolleyes:
 
I'm sorry, "dramatically" better.

And why would you ignore the cost? That's the point. :rolleyes:

When judging the quality of something, why would you factor in the cost? The cost doesn't affect how good the headphones are. That's like saying that Ferraris are garbage because they're so expensive.
 
When judging the quality of something, why would you factor in the cost? The cost doesn't affect how good the headphones are. That's like saying that Ferraris are garbage because they're so expensive.
How is it NOT a factor? The entire point is they're overpriced for what they offer. The price is a factor.
 
You just keep telling yourself that because otherwise you will have to admit that you are stealing. Unless, of course you are implying that you personally know all of the artists that are in your collection and they have given you their music as a gift. I used to take five finger discounts at Wal-Mart too, while rehearsing the same nonsense about some kind of evil empire. What is the incentive for musicians to make quality product when people like you expect it to be exchanged via non financial means? I would sincerely like to know how people like you justify locking their car doors and homes.

I don't believe the corporate lies. The whole meaning of copyright has been destroyed due to the industry, they even replaced the word "copy" with "pirate". You and most people are believing the corporate brainwashing to keep the current system making others richer. Copying is only duplicate what exists, the original copy exists - you are not removing it. Read this: http://questioncopyright.org/promise and you will see for over 400 years the "industry" has lied to the people about how copyright was designed. It all started with

And another one "To read the true history of copyright is to understand just how completely this reaction plays into the industry's hands. The record companies don't really care whether they win or lose these lawsuits. In the long run, they don't even expect to eliminate file sharing. What they're fighting for is much bigger. They're fighting to maintain a state of mind, an attitude toward creative work that says someone ought to own products of the mind, and control who can copy them. And by positioning the issue as a contest between the Beleaguered Artist, who supposedly needs copyright to pay the rent, and The Unthinking Masses, who would rather copy a song or a story off the Internet than pay a fair price, the industry has been astonishingly successful. They have managed to substitute the loaded terms "piracy" and "theft" for the more accurate "copying" — as if there were no difference between stealing your bicycle (now you have no bicycle) and copying your song (now we both have it). Most importantly, industry propaganda has made it a commonplace belief that copyright is how most creators earn a living — that without copyright, the engines of intellectual production would grind to a halt, and artists would have neither means nor motivation to produce new works."

Excerpt "Yet a close look at history shows that copyright has never been a major factor in allowing creativity to flourish. Copyright is an outgrowth of the privatization of government censorship in sixteenth-century England. There was no uprising of authors suddenly demanding the right to prevent other people from copying their works; far from viewing copying as theft, authors generally regarded it as flattery. The bulk of creative work has always depended, then and now, on a diversity of funding sources: commissions, teaching jobs, grants or stipends, patronage, etc. The introduction of copyright did not change this situation. What it did was allow a particular business model — mass pressings with centralized distribution — to make a few lucky works available to a wider audience, at considerable profit to the distributors."

The big companies are afraid of losing distribution rights to creative works they don't own but distribute, and this threatens their jobs. They don't want the system to change because their wallets get lighter. Torrents etc mean music can be distributed for almost no cost, no agents, no controlling entities, goes from from creation to the world at no cost.
 
I don't believe the corporate lies. The whole meaning of copyright has been destroyed due to the industry, they even replaced the word "copy" with "pirate". You and most people are believing the corporate brainwashing to keep the current system making others richer. Copying is only duplicate what exists, the original copy exists - you are not removing it. Read this: http://questioncopyright.org/promise and you will see for over 400 years the "industry" has lied to the people about how copyright was designed. It all started with

And another one "To read the true history of copyright is to understand just how completely this reaction plays into the industry's hands. The record companies don't really care whether they win or lose these lawsuits. In the long run, they don't even expect to eliminate file sharing. What they're fighting for is much bigger. They're fighting to maintain a state of mind, an attitude toward creative work that says someone ought to own products of the mind, and control who can copy them. And by positioning the issue as a contest between the Beleaguered Artist, who supposedly needs copyright to pay the rent, and The Unthinking Masses, who would rather copy a song or a story off the Internet than pay a fair price, the industry has been astonishingly successful. They have managed to substitute the loaded terms "piracy" and "theft" for the more accurate "copying" — as if there were no difference between stealing your bicycle (now you have no bicycle) and copying your song (now we both have it). Most importantly, industry propaganda has made it a commonplace belief that copyright is how most creators earn a living — that without copyright, the engines of intellectual production would grind to a halt, and artists would have neither means nor motivation to produce new works."

Excerpt "Yet a close look at history shows that copyright has never been a major factor in allowing creativity to flourish. Copyright is an outgrowth of the privatization of government censorship in sixteenth-century England. There was no uprising of authors suddenly demanding the right to prevent other people from copying their works; far from viewing copying as theft, authors generally regarded it as flattery. The bulk of creative work has always depended, then and now, on a diversity of funding sources: commissions, teaching jobs, grants or stipends, patronage, etc. The introduction of copyright did not change this situation. What it did was allow a particular business model — mass pressings with centralized distribution — to make a few lucky works available to a wider audience, at considerable profit to the distributors."

The big companies are afraid of losing distribution rights to creative works they don't own but distribute, and this threatens their jobs. They don't want the system to change because their wallets get lighter. Torrents etc mean music can be distributed for almost no cost, no agents, no controlling entities, goes from from creation to the world at no cost.

Don't like big companies? Ok. Everything you've just said makes perfect sense and gives good reason not to deal with big companies. So how does it justify what you're doing to the artists? I know what you're going to say "they barely see any money from the label anyway so who cares?", but the majority of recording artists are not rich people. Not even close. What you see are hear in the media are the 1% of artists that have HUGE financial backing that the small guys could only dream of. So while you're "sticking it" to the 1% with your "sharing sites" maybe do a little research on the artist first. If they're a small time band on a small time label or completely independent, maybe help them out by purchasing a song or two. If you're going to steal maybe try stealing from the rich and giving to the poor :D

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Tell me who the monster is after reading this story about Beats:

http://gizmodo.com/5981823/beat-by-dre-the-inside-story-of-how-monster-lost-the-world

If it comes down to dollars and cents between Apple and Jimmy working together, I'm not expecting much of anything worked out between the two sides.

Agreed. If Tim Cook ever actually feels like they'll have a long term relationship with Beats then he'd be sorely mistaken. Beats is only looking out for Beats. They don't want a long term partner, they want somebody to help get them up and running so, by the end of the contract, they don't need to renew it and can go back to being their own company for a bigger piece of the pie.
 
How is it NOT a factor? The entire point is they're overpriced for what they offer. The price is a factor.

You said that they are bad headphones. They're not bad headphones, end of story. Whether or not they're worth the cost is irrelevant to their quality.
 
You mean Beats aren't really made by Dr Dre? My heart is broken :(

Just kidding. I don't even know or care who Dr Dre is. All I know is that I'm not going to pay $200-$400 for headphones ever. Think of what else you could buy for $200... including 10 pairs of good headphones.

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The only thing confusing is that you think "good headphones" cost $20 each. You must be one of the countless sheep out there using their iBuds as though they're not the worst piece of crap available.

Beats is crap because there are $50 headphones out there that have superior sound quality. Heck, Beats and iBuds belong together because the iBuds also should cost 1/4th of their retail prices.

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To all the people hating on Beats, yes they aren't worth it compared to other brands we are familiar with, but they do provide strong and solid low frequency (which is what the kids want)

There are plenty of basshead cans out there for far less money while still retaining decent overall sonic performance, which Beats completely lacks --imaging, detail/resolution, dynamics, tonal balance, etc.

http://www.headphone.com/headphones/audio-technica-ath-m50.php

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People saying that Beats are bad headphones are just haters. Sure they're good, but not for the price. Same goes with Bose, according to audiophiles here. I've tried my nice $40 Sony headphones vs $400 Beats, and the Sony headphones sound a little better.

Good headphones cost $20, according to you, so your $40 Sony is overpriced X2.

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When judging the quality of something, why would you factor in the cost? The cost doesn't affect how good the headphones are. That's like saying that Ferraris are garbage because they're so expensive.

Ferraris would be garbage if $40,000 cars could compete and surpass it. Get it?


...and stop voting up on your nonsensical posts.
 
The only thing confusing is that you think "good headphones" cost $20 each. You must be one of the countless sheep out there using their iBuds as though they're not the worst piece of crap available.

Good headphones cost $20, according to you, so your $40 Sony is overpriced X2.
Ferraris would be garbage if $40,000 cars could compete and surpass it. Get it?


...and stop voting up on your nonsensical posts.

Wow, way to get all sassy about it. Pregnant or something?

Look, I don't know why it's so hard for you to understand this. You can get OK headphones for $20, nice ones for $40, or expensive Beats that are the same thing as the $40 headphones in quality but way pricier. Therefore, the Beats will still be nice headphones, but they'll cost extra.

No, I don't use earbuds when I have the choice. Ironically, my best earbuds are from Canadian Airlines, and they were free with the flight. I wouldn't think of paying $20 for earbuds.
 
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You said that they are bad headphones. They're not bad headphones, end of story. Whether or not they're worth the cost is irrelevant to their quality.
They're bad headphones... even if they were priced according to their quality... they'd still suck in their "quality" range.

End of story.



No, I don't use earbuds when I have the choice. Ironically, my best earbuds are from Canadian Airlines, and they were free with the flight. I wouldn't think of paying $20 for earbuds.
And thus, nothing you say regarding headphones holds any credibility. Congratulations.
 
Neither of you are audiophiles, apparently.

Uh. Audiophiles don't listen on an iPhone/iPad/iPod. Audiophiles don't really listen to music on computers/handheld electronics period. Audiophiles don't subscribe to streaming services. Audiphiles laugh at iTunes. Audiophiles don't call themselves audiophiles.
 
Uh. Audiophiles don't listen on an iPhone/iPad/iPod. Audiophiles don't really listen to music on computers/handheld electronics period. Audiophiles don't subscribe to streaming services. Audiphiles laugh at iTunes. Audiophiles don't call themselves audiophiles.

Last one is false. Yeah, iTunes is compressed. I'm no audiophile, so I've fine since they stopped using stupid MP3.

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And thus, nothing you say regarding headphones holds any credibility. Congratulations.

Why, because I don't buy expensive earbuds? I'm not spending money on something meant for listening to random stuff coming out of my laptop.
 
Uh. Audiophiles don't listen on an iPhone/iPad/iPod. Audiophiles don't really listen to music on computers/handheld electronics period. Audiophiles don't subscribe to streaming services. Audiphiles laugh at iTunes. Audiophiles don't call themselves audiophiles.
I fail to see any point you're making. And yes audiophiles do call themselves audiophiles.

Why, because I don't buy expensive earbuds? I'm not spending money on something meant for listening to random stuff coming out of my laptop.
Yes... that is my point exactly. You don't care... you don't buy them... so why do you have an opinion on them?
 
Yes... that is my point exactly. You don't care... you don't buy them... so why do you have an opinion on them?

Beats are not earbuds (well at least not the regular ones).
Earbuds suck in general, so I don't spend money on them.
Beats headphones are good but way overpriced.
Sony headphones are good and cheap.
End of discussion.
 
back to what I think this thread is about;)

A streaming music service. Is that right?

I would never be interested in something like this unless it was super cheap. Somebody said they'd pay $15 a month for this. I'd pay that a year and I wouldn't be surprised to see Apple come out with a price that blows the competition away.

btw I'm with emusic at the basic rate of $6 a month and $.50 for most tracks I'm happy but I'm not the average music consumer. I mostly buy indie jazz and folk singles.
I like to own my music.
 
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