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.... ooooooooor get the Sennheiser HD598 CS for $150 which blow these out of the water, throw them back in the water only to blow them out again. And you're saving $200.


Yeah no, Lightning won't happen. These aren't iOS-device exclusives and must work with Android/Windows Phone too. But yeah, Micro-USB is just horrible.


Those are wired.... and no noise canceling....:rolleyes:




From Sennheisers site

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I'm mostly excited about that Canadian exchange rate.

$350USD = $433CAD

Hopefully this means a drop in price for AirPods and Apple Watch following the September event.
 
Don't bother with these. Get the Bose QuietComfort 35 instead.

But Bose QC35 doesn't feature the W1 chip. And the QC35 doesn't have all that great audio quality. I own a pair myself, and the noise cancellation is stellar and they have great multi-device bluetooth but it doesn't work as great as the Apple W1 on my AirPods and the audio quality is lacking.


So, you've never heard these, but you are recommending against them? The QC35's are great, but keep an open mind. For example, the Sony MDR 1000X are rated as having better noise cancelling and better sound by most reviewers. They also have a lot more features. Sony, also just came out with next generation of these headphones. Bose tends to sit back and rely on its name and now that tech is improving rapidly, they appear to be falling behind, e.g., Beats, Sony and others are now incorporating more technology improvements, such as customizing NC to one's environment.

More features? Like what? The biggest problem with the MDR1000X is how badly they work between multiple devices. You pretty much have to re-pair them every single time. It's a damn hassle.
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You'd be dead wrong... I own the QC35s and have listened to various Beats headphones/earphones and they're not better at all than the Bose...

As one who owned Beats Studio Wireless v2.0 before selling them and getting the B&O BeoPlay H7 and later the H9 and Bose QC35 I can't say the have inferior audio. QC35 has the worst audio of them all, but they also feature much better active noise cancellation so I still use them on plane rides.
 



Beats today introduced new Studio3 Wireless over-ear headphones with Apple's custom W1 chip and Pure Adaptive Noise Canceling technology.

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Beats Studio3 Wireless deliver up to 22 hours of battery life with Pure ANC on, and up to 40 hours with Pure ANC off. Fast Fuel quick charging technology via Micro-USB provides three hours of music playback with a 10-minute charge.

Here's how Beats describes Pure ANC:Like AirPods, Apple's W1 chip enables the Studio3 Wireless to instantly pair with an iPhone, iPad, Mac, or other Apple device, with seamless switching between iCloud-connected devices.

Apple's W1 chip has Class 1 Bluetooth, so the Studio3 Wireless can be used with non-Apple devices as well.


Studio3 Wireless wearers can answer phone calls, control music, and activate Siri with multifunction on-ear controls, while a 3.5mm RemoteTalk cable with in-line controls is also included in the carrying case.

Beats Studio3 Wireless can be ordered on Apple's website starting today for $349.95 in the United States, $399.95 in Canada, and £299.95 in the UK. Prices vary elsewhere. Shipments are estimated to begin in mid October.

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The headphones look virtually the same as the original Beats Studio Wireless, including soft over-ear cushions. There are six colors to choose from: Red, Matte Black, White, Porcelain Rose, and Shadow Gray.

Article Link: Beats Launching New Studio3 Wireless Headphones With Pure Adaptive Noise Cancelation
bummer about the micro-usb.. that's a pretty un_user_friendly style plug..

oh well
 
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i'm disappointed that apple keeps pushing wireless headphones and prides themselves on quality, but they still don't support things like aptX HD for higher quality audio...

still hoping this will change with the iphone8, but these headphones just made it more unlikely.
 
I figured that after BeatsX came with a Lightning port and cable, everything that followed would. I'd be fine with either Lightning or USB-C, but the micro-USB is lame.
 
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Those look great, and probably sound great too. Bose were suggested to me, but they're ugly and I wasn't impressed with their other products.
 
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So, you've never heard these, but you are recommending against them? The QC35's are great, but keep an open mind. For example, the Sony MDR 1000X are rated as having better noise cancelling and better sound by most reviewers. They also have a lot more features. Sony, also just came out with next generation of these headphones. Bose tends to sit back and rely on its name and now that tech is improving rapidly, they appear to be falling behind, e.g., Beats, Sony and others are now incorporating more technology improvements, such as customizing NC to one's environment.

I think the advantage with the QC35 is dual connectivity. I love my AirPods and the W1 chip but you can only connect it to one device at once. When I'm on my Mac, I want to have them connected to it because a lot of what I do in my job requires sound. Then when I get a call, I have to answer, tell them to hang on and then switch to my iPhone (my calls don't always come through on my Mac). The QC35s have smart switching where you can be connected to both so that if a call comes through, it will pause what you're doing on your computer. It is my only gripe with BeatsX and the AirPods. C'mon Apple.
 
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Well, maybe I'm wrong on this, but if you were trying to pitch these to higher end audio users, you might not want to leave non-apple users feeling marginalized? I've no idea, but I'm just wondering if sticking apple proprietary stuff on the higher end (and higher margin?) stuff, would maybe drive users away? Otherwise not sure what the rationale might be

How much is a CABLE dude? Seriously. A USB-A to USB-C cable is pennies to apple, so include a 3 footer in the package. It's not hard.

The fact is that micro USB is terrible. You're always fiddling with the orientation of the plug, and even then it doesn't always feel like it's going in correctly.

USB-C isn't "proprietary" and would have been clearly the better, and certainly more on-brand option here.
 
Well, maybe I'm wrong on this, but if you were trying to pitch these to higher end audio users, you might not want to leave non-apple users feeling marginalized? I've no idea, but I'm just wondering if sticking apple proprietary stuff on the higher end (and higher margin?) stuff, would maybe drive users away? Otherwise not sure what the rationale might be
I don't think he was asking for lightning cable either. I'm pretty sure usb-c would have been the best choice. More durable and still has the convenience of reversible like lightning.
 
Didn't expect them to use Micro USB for charging. At least lightning or USB-C. This is the kind of annoying lack of consideration that baffles me where Apple is concerned. I could really carry a USB-C to lightning cable and charge my iPhone as well as Beats but no, gotta carry a specific odd-one-out micro-usb connector! Why...
 
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Yeah no, Lightning won't happen. These aren't iOS-device exclusives and must work with Android/Windows Phone too. But yeah, Micro-USB is just horrible.
I mean, I was just adding USB-C to the Lightning suggestion, and although I tend to agree with you, that wouldn't necessarily be a big issue as long as a Lightning cable is included. Nice foot in the door technique ;) And Lightning is a nice reversible, compact standard. People would have to have a separate charger just for the headphones? That's what many iPhone users will now have to have, when owning these :mad::p

Besides Micro-USB being really bad (non-reversible and flimsy as hell) the biggest issue in my opinion is paying $350 for brand new late 2017 headphones with a charging standard that is on the way out.
 
Perhaps it's just me, but I can't go back to wearing large headphones like this anymore. I find Bluetooth earbuds to be more convenient and compact enough where it meets my needs, even if that means the sound is not nearly as intense as the beats are. But I'm willing to take the trade-off between the two for battery life and portability.
I prefer the Airpods too, I had a bad experience with large headphones not feeling comfortable. However I find it's a shame the Airpods battery wears so quickly and the fact they keep wasting battery if not inside that charger case. Also the volume could be improved, I always have to increase in the app I use (nPlayer).
 
£299 seems rather pricey. Also the choice not to use USB-C or Lightning strikes me as odd, yet another cable needed when traveling.
 
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£299 seems rather pricey. Also the choice not to use USB-C or Lightning strikes me as odd, yet another cable needed when traveling.
Seems like Beats hardware is still a separate company. I wonder how involved Apple hardware engineers are in these products?
 
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More features? Like what? The biggest problem with the MDR1000X is how badly they work between multiple devices. You pretty much have to re-pair them every single time. It's a damn hassle.

I think a much bigger problem with them is the bad design where the plastic in the headband cracks and Sony is being very difficult about honoring the warranty on them.
 
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i'm disappointed that apple keeps pushing wireless headphones and prides themselves on quality, but they still don't support things like aptX HD for higher quality audio...

still hoping this will change with the iphone8, but these headphones just made it more unlikely.


Might it be because Apple support Bluetooth AAC? That's 256kbps AAC, the exact same quality as Apple Music offers on "High"? APT-X is only 356 kbps so it's hardly any better and it has a major drawback in the fact that you have to re-encode all the audio as none of your audio on iOS, Android or anywhere else really is encoded using SBC which is the codec APTX uses. So if Apple had used APTX the audio would be encoded lossy 256kbps AAC, then re-encoded/transcoded into lossy SBC before playback. Re-encoding/transcoding from one lossy encode to another will almost always reduce the quality even further, even when going to a higher bitrate. It will NEVER be able to improve the quality as you can't take a lossy format and add back information that has already been lost during the first encoding.

So there is basically no way that APTX could improve the audio quality for Apple. For Android it makes more sense as Google has no guidelines for what codecs is being used in their apps, so some apps features MP3 (LAME), other OGG Vorbis, some Opus, some AAC, other FLAC etc... When you have no control the best thing is to simply relay on whatever gives you the highest bandwidth and APTX has an edge with its 356kbps vs 256kbps for AAC.

But for Apple, especially with iOS where 99% of all audio is encoded using AAC as that's what Apple guides all developers to use in apps and is what pretty much every music streaming services uses on iOS it doesn't make any sense to use APTX (SBC) over AAC.
 
I think the advantage with the QC35 is dual connectivity. I love my AirPods and the W1 chip but you can only connect it to one device at once. When I'm on my Mac, I want to have them connected to it because a lot of what I do in my job requires sound. Then when I get a call, I have to answer, tell them to hang on and then switch to my iPhone (my calls don't always come through on my Mac). The QC35s have smart switching where you can be connected to both so that if a call comes through, it will pause what you're doing on your computer. It is my only gripe with BeatsX and the AirPods. C'mon Apple.


One would think this was something Apple would be capable of doing. Perhaps Bose has some kind of patent on this? Both Music Sharing (playback audio on two different Bose QC35 and the same time from a single device) and the multi-point/multi-devices seems to be a Bose QC35 exclusive thing.

It's not all that hard doing this manually on the AirPods as you simply answer the call and select the AirPods as speakers and they connect instantly even when they are connect to your Mac. So Apple is able to "grab" connection seamlessly without the need for re-pairing which pretty much everyone else would require. But it still a hassle compared to the seamless switching that Bose offers.
 
The weird part is though, Beats X uses Apples W1 chip and Lightning connector while this headset uses Apples W1 but not Lightning. Very odd....

I suppose it has something to do with Beats X being a brand new pair of earbuds, so they had to come up with a new design so it made sense to go with Lightning. While Beats Studio v3 still uses the same design / housing as Studio v2.
 
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