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Before you switch to Android....

I7guy said:
The exact number will likely never be known. Also not known is how many switched to apple from android for those who actually might like IOS 7.
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But we do know how many iOS devices there are out there and we know how many Android devices are out there. And we have seen a huge increase in Android users since the release of iOS 7. Now we may not be a able to attribute the 2 together, but if iOS 7 was as good as its claimed to be, then maybe ... just maybe we would not have seen such a surge this late on in the tablet/smartphone wars.

As it stands, iOS 7 has not contained any magic ingredient to help Android from overtaking it by a HUGE margin.
 
I7guy said:
Lot's of folks also like IOS 7 over IOS 6.

There is a totally unscientific poll, but IOS 7 is winning:

https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=19138448#post19138448

With every release of a new product; whether it be operating systems, toasters, cars, you name it. There are those who have strong opinions on both sides.
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I agree, the new Sunbeam X5 toaster just doesn't give me that same edge to edge level of crispness that I'm used to with the Cuisinart Deluxe. Dammit I want my old toaster back :D
 
byke said:
But we do know how many iOS devices there are out there and we know how many Android devices are out there. And we have seen a huge increase in Android users since the release of iOS 7. Now we may not be a able to attribute the 2 together, but if iOS 7 was as good as its claimed to be, then maybe ... just maybe we would not have seen such a surge this late on in the tablet/smartphone wars.

As it stands, iOS 7 has not contained any magic ingredient to help Android from overtaking it by a HUGE margin.
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As you yourself understand, there is no real information to be gleaned on trying to understand the data because there is little detail as to the "why". So why even speculate on the numbers using your slant against IOS 7 and trying to superimpose that on top of the number of android vs ios phones?
 
Well if we look at the amount of android devices during iOS 6, and then compare the numbers of Android devices after the release of iOS 7 we can clearly see that iOS 7 is missing something. Regardless as what you feel is perceived as being a slant.

Fact is, since iOS 7.
Android has an ever bigger market share.
 
I'll leave it to the marketing experts who specialize in such things.

Obviously, if it's your opinion that the root cause of the "perceived" sudden upsurge in android popularity is the IOS 7 design, no one in the world is going to change that opinion.

Toyota Camry has a bigger market share then the Porsche Cayman (since the only factor being looked at is numbers). Camry must be a better car then.

Carry on then.
 
byke said:
Well if we look at the amount of android devices during iOS 6, and then compare the numbers of Android devices after the release of iOS 7 we can clearly see that iOS 7 is missing something. Regardless as what you feel is perceived as being a slant.



Fact is, since iOS 7.

Android has an ever bigger market share.
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You know why Android has a bigger marketshare right? Because even those $99.00 Android phones are counted in the tally. The cheapest iPhone you can get is a what $350? Price factor also impacts marketshare. If all Android phones were the same price as the iPhone the market would look different.

I still respect Apple for sticking to their guns and not selling cheap iPhones to compete with the saturated Android low end market
 
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The decision is a highly personal one since phones are the most personal tech that we use right now.

Our phones are the closest thing that we have to the movie "Her" at present.

Apple wants to create an emotional connection with the user, and they are banking that that emotional connection will trump reason/feature lists/price, etc.

Apple's got a few standout features right now: one-handed use (don't sleep on how many people are going to clamor for an iphone6 with a 4.3 or 4" screen once they realize how big the 4.7" iphone is), best screen, best speakers, best headphone audio.

Apple banks on simplicity through omission of features--if you leave out features, by definition there's going to be less to confuse the user. It's not a bad idea for mass appeal. The features that the iPhone does, it does better than Android.

For Android, there's a lot more power under the hood. For those people who loves specs and figure, well someone will figure out the software eventually, but you can't replace the hardware (ram, cpu) down the road, Android appeals.
With regard to battery life, in Anandtech's tests, there are a good number of Android devices that do better than the iphone. Android is more than good enough now, and for alot of people who are voting with their wallets, better than ios now. I find that the notifications are far superior and I love the notification light. Having a normal file system where you can go to the file and then pick which app to open it, is sane to me, as opposed to ios where each app must store its own copy of the file. Even with the new KK sc card writing rules, you can still get around this with a hack from the official Play store. Again and advantage for those who don't wish to be hamstrung. I don't think that ios devices are worth 40% more than a similarly spec'd android device. Not anymore.
 
bboucher790 said:
Since iOS 7 has been introduced, lots of people state they're "going to Android" because they don't like the look of iOS 7.

My question is: If you hate iOS 7's look so much, why not just jailbreak to a theme that you like?

The whole "if you jailbreak, you're not on the most up-to-date OS" excuse is flawed. Unless you go vanilla Android, you're not getting the latest software updates instantly anyway. Other than security tweaks, the jailbreak community has a slew of features that would trounce any software update done by Apple.

I'm not saying jailbreaking is for everyone, but it's definitely a solution for those who constantly annoy others in these forums with "I hate how iOS 7 looks" threads. It's better than throwing in the towel.
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i'm purposely not updating to 7.1 simply bc of the lack of jailbreak

i don't see myself going back to a non-jailbreaked iphone
 
People who always start these Android vs. iOS thread usually just look at the surface.

I would never switch to Android if iOS would be the most ugliest unusable mobile OS, because the very foundation of Android is just plain ugly.

Google can never create a efficient and beautiful foundation for Android because its core has to run on the cheapest $99 Taiwanese clone up to the Galaxy S5 or HTC One M8.

They cannot change the system to be tailored to the features of the hardware.
It will always be a Linux kernel with a minimal set of system libraries that are held hostage by a VM that needs to be there to paper over the shortcomings of the underlying hardware/software capabilities.

I admit that the Google services are not subject to these limitations and Samsung / HTC's custom modifications might not be either, but as someone who's interested in technology, Android is just not interesting, no matter what phones or features you start to compare.

iOS can be as sucky as it might be, but its integration with the hardware and its optimized core will always offer more opportunity for improvement.
 
Music player on android is a joke. When I had a Galaxy, the audio through bluetooth was total junk. Very staticy and tin can sounding. And it wouldn't even display the song details on my car stereo. Huge deal breakers for me.
 
Jailbreaking is not the solution for people defecting to android. Android offers mores standard options then iOS. Jailbreaking can be a hassle and locks people in from updating their phone. Apple seems intent on stopping folks from JBing so it can be a headache for those that want to jailbreak and stay on the latest version of iOS
 
Stuke00 said:
Music player on android is a joke. When I had a Galaxy, the audio through bluetooth was total junk. Very staticy and tin can sounding. And it wouldn't even display the song details on my car stereo. Huge deal breakers for me.
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User error? Regardless how does this apply to this topic?
 
byke said:
Exactly, and given ios7 "look". The differences seperating them are not that great.
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Right, but it's the journey not the destination. Standing at the moon and looking at the earth an M8 and 5S are identical. When you are holding them in your hand side by side, you may have a different opinion. (some won't, but that is another conversation)

I don't like the Android interface on any flagship android device. I tried them a number of times at the Verizon store. The M8 is very cool; as my daily driver, not a chance.
 
Wrong post. I wish there was a delete option.

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Stuke00 said:
Music player on android is a joke. When I had a Galaxy, the audio through bluetooth was total junk. Very staticy and tin can sounding. And it wouldn't even display the song details on my car stereo. Huge deal breakers for me.
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Motorola audio is typically very good. Samsung is typically AWFUL for all aspects of audio with the exception of the original SGS i9000 that had top of the line audio accessible after rooting. I find the flat response of the iPhone 5/5s lackluster in my everyday life because, unlike Android, I have no ability to tailor the sound in many apps (eg Songza) to the various less than perfect soundstages in my life. So for my everyday real world life, Android beats iPhone for Audio.


In other words, for any average so-so sound system, I can make it sound much nicer with android then I can with iOS, via global graphic equalization.
 
I said to myself would I switch to android if apple didn't release a bigger screen this year and after just bought my kids last week a Samsung galaxy 8 tablet I realise the android OS is not for me. It's too open and I'm now a bit worried sometimes about its openness. I like apple OS a lot more simple and more user friendly and secure with lots if great apps build for it. Nothing against android fans but that's my 2cents.
 
maflynn said:
Jailbreaking is not the solution for people defecting to android. Android offers mores standard options then iOS. Jailbreaking can be a hassle and locks people in from updating their phone. Apple seems intent on stopping folks from JBing so it can be a headache for those that want to jailbreak and stay on the latest version of iOS
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True that android is more customizable.

I am a power user and I do not need all of the in's and out's of what can be done with Android. I just want my phone to work. I don't need another electronic device in my life that I can customize until the cows come home. Jailbreak, not for me.

That's why I like ios; different strokes for different folks.
 
byke said:
Exactly, and given ios7 "look". The differences seperating them are not that great.
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I have used Android before and still using the very latest version and I can tell you they are hardly alike. Android is quite messy!! There are things I like about it and I could miss when using iOS but to be honest it can not beat the experience of using iOS. At least for me. Only reason I am using now is because I wanted a larger screen. It will go on eBay once larger screen iPhone is released.
 
byke said:
You do know there are skins and themes for android, to make it look like iOS?
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That is still sad. Will those skins for Android speed up the real time latency of Android OS? Before you say nobody will ever need to worry about it, explain that to us who do use our iOS devices in our recording studios and DJ rigs and stage lighting rigs. The high performance apps are available on iOS. The close equivalent Android OS apps are best suited for home or maybe office, not professional use.
 
Winona Northdakota said:
High performance apps are available on iOS. The close equivalent Android OS apps are best suited for home or maybe office, not professional use.
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Yes unfortunately that's the case. I have developed computationally demanding apps for both platforms and always struggled during porting from iOS to Android trying to make them work roughly at the same level of performance. Android really requires faster hardware to run an app at the same speed as an iOS based device.
 
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