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Benchmarks Confirm Intel's Latest Core i9 Chip Outperforms Apple's M1 Max With Several Caveats
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I do and currently use AMD. Sounds like Intel is buying state of the art lithography equipment from ASML so may leap frog AMD in the future.
They've always used ASML, amongst other brands. Doesn't do them any good as they still can't figure out a 7nm process which is why they have to use TSMC. That's the only way they'd leapfrog AMD.
I work in semiconductors and we have a bunch ASML's. Though very old ones.
The comparison should be measured at the same power consumption. For example, compare their performance at 40 Watts.
Otherwise, the comparison is not accurate. It's like comparing a car with a 2.4l engine with another one with a 4.8l engine.
Otherwise, the comparison is not accurate. It's like comparing a car with a 2.4l engine with another one with a 4.8l engine.
This thread is about MSI GE76 Raider which has Nvidia dGPU. In the 1990s, CPU was main processor along with separate coprocessor. For the last decade or so, dGPU is the processor since most everything is dGPU accelerated while CPU is coprocessor so pointless to focus on CPU only.
This same website reports that Apple will use a 3nm TMSC with volume production to begin in 4Q2022.
Even if Intel closes the gap considerably, any company wishing to use Intel chips must pay Intel's margins in addition to TSMC's. By designing their own silicon, Apple cuts out that middleman and his margins.
M1 GPUs are not yet optimized for Blender and is in early stage. Not even fair comparison.
Huh?
So all this time Apple was saying how fast it is, but now it's "fast for a 4 cylinder?"
The M1 Core is good. But it's already 1.5 years old, based on an older A core. The M1 is good for what it is, a laptop chip. But it's not quite a Pro chip, which is why even though I bought the M1 Pro a few weeks ago due to need, I wished I could wait for an M2.
Let's hope the M2 core is a leap forward from the M1 like A chip versions have often been. And let's hope the M2 core can also handle 4GHz or higher in a desktop form factor rather than being capped at 3.2
I do use C4D R23 professionally, and my iMac is powered by Intel, but benchmark numbers don't mean a thing when it comes to overall productivity. There's no way I'd ever jump ship and go PC because of processor speed. On Mac, I'm productive 100% of the time. I know of those who did go over to PC before the M1 appeared and have been considerably less productive - pointlessly, frustratingly so - purely because of the perceived speed advantage. Now with the M series processors, they've come back to Mac and are much happier.
Also, imagine the performance of the M1 if it was consuming 250% more power! Apples and oranges. It looks like that Intel architecture is coming towards the end of its time, whereas the Apple M series have just started. See where we are in 5 years. Mac Pros running M5s... it'll blow your hat off!
I just ordered a fully loaded M1 Max 2TB... I couldn't wait anymore for the M2
Do people still do slow CPU rendering? Seems like most pro renderers have a GPU farm.
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It’s not quite a pro chip because it’s 4% slower than Intel’s brand new chip?
Well, I just looked it up as I'd no idea what it was, and.... flat keyboard with trackpad, flat screen attached with hinges at the rear, various ports down the sides of the body, and is described thus: "GE76 Raider is a portable gaming laptop".
So how is this not a laptop? They're certainly promoting it as a laptop. Could it be the keyboard that lights up like a Christmas tree? The ever wonderful 'Mystic Light Bar"? Or that it "also represents a spacecraft soaring swiftly across the universe"?
Oh... it's for playing games. Playing. Nuff said. I'll get back to work then.
The envelopes are being pushed… thermal envelopes that is.
We don’t know yet what will be in the iMac 27 or the Mac Pro. Although not unlikely, the assumption that the only option will be M1 Pro/Max (and options for multiples of those) are only conjecture.
Depends what you do. I do very limited motion graphics, mostly technical and historical high res images for publication, so for my case, using a render farm would be a bit over the top! If it ever came to it, I'd package up the files and send it to a dedicated render farm and have them do it, but I doubt that'll happen. Plenty that do though. If I can render an A3 image @ 400dpi, multipass PSD format, in less than 30 minutes - just enough time top make a brew and smoke a fag or two - I'm good with that. 95% of the time is spent research, modelling and texturing rather than rendering.
yeah, marketing.
Just yank power cord out and see how it works as laptop. If you always have to be connected to wall, this is definition of desktop. In this case portable
The number of Mac titles on Steam went down from 30,000 to 300 compatible with the M1, and the rate of new titles is *slowing* not going up.
I want a computer that can do everything and I can do gaming on the move with, and the Mac isn't it any more sadly.
yeah, marketing.
Just yank power cord out and see how it works as laptop. If you always have to be connected to wall, this is definition of desktop. In this case portable
M1 Max 1.5 hour battery life under load is nothing to brag about. I'd rather have it go into battery saving mode than a dead brick away from wall outlet.
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This is more of an embarrassment to Intel than anything else. It’s like running a race and being 0.04 secs faster while crawling to the finish like while Apple 0.04 secs behind is jogging to the finish line and ready for another lap while Intel refuels. Why is efficiency not the focus in cohesion with speed vice only speed.
The whole thing is pointless. Even if Intel was actually able to outperform Apple Silicon by 4% with the same power draw it wouldn’t make a difference.
No one is going to say “I was going to get that Apple Silicon Mac but now I’m going to buy a Windows PC and charge my entire workflow so I can get a 4% performance increase”. If it was 20% then someone might consider changing to a whole different operating system for a performance boost but 4% no not even noticeable. Using a different operating system could cause way more than a 4% loss in efficiency when it comes to workflow.
No one is going to say “I was going to get that Apple Silicon Mac but now I’m going to buy a Windows PC and charge my entire workflow so I can get a 4% performance increase”. If it was 20% then someone might consider changing to a whole different operating system for a performance boost but 4% no not even noticeable. Using a different operating system could cause way more than a 4% loss in efficiency when it comes to workflow.
On the other side... 60% more power draw, for 4% more speed, buuuuuttttt... for 50% of the price on intel side.
Two possibilities:
1) Apple is making a huge profit on M1 PRO and MAX chips
2) Apple is suffering from very low yelds on M1 PRO and MAX chips, making chips very costly