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The new iPad is thicker and heavier.

By most definitions in mobile electronics, those measures are inferior. (It doesn't matter to me, I don't think its noticeable. Just commenting on the technical inaccuracy of the statement.)

Talk about splitting hairs the vast majority of people wouldn't even notice a difference and it's not as if it's noticeably thicker or heavier so my statement is still accurate in my opinion.
 
If you aren't satisfied with the specs and you don't like Apple's 'incremental' updates, then it sounds like a personal problem. Apple doesn't care. They are focused on releasing the best product they logically can. No one is twisting any arms forcing folks to buy the new iPad.

And if you already bought it hoping for something more, there is still plenty of time to trade it in for any mediocre Android tablet.
 
If I did this right, the comparisons look like this:
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                              iPad 2   iPad 3  Change
Egypt Fixed Time       ms      47551   47261    -1%
Egypt High             Fps     59.3    59.9      1%
Egypt Offscreen 720p   Fps     90.1    140.9    56%
Egypt Standard         Fps     59.6    59.9      1%
Pro Fixed Time         ms      20868   20857     0%
Pro High               Fps     59.3    60        1%
Pro Offscreen 720p     Fps     151     252.1    67%
Pro Standard           Fps     60      60        0%

Could you please explain to me what each of those scores means ?

Thanks.

Not real knowledgeable about these, but here's a link that has some explanation. http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/03/apple-a5x-not-quad-core/

That said: Egypt is a graphical game-like example for testing. The Pro Offscreen test magnifies differences in certain abilities "single-textured, or non-textured polygon drawing with extremely simple lighting".

glbenchmark-egypt.jpg


The other tests that show <1% difference I believe are already at max rates for the test, (as one other forum member posted) so those would not be expected to show a difference unless it dropped significantly. (Frames per second rates above 60 fps have reached a point of diminishing returns.)
 
Keep in mind that GeekBench is *not* Retina-enabled. That means that in the onscreen tests, there's two devices, both rendering to 1024x768 screens, both limited to 60 fps. Meaningless, there. It'll be interesting to see if the A5X can still maintain 60 fps when rendering to the real Retina resolution.
 
Considering that the iPad 2 rarely, if ever, uses the CPU to its maximum potential (very few iOS apps can use both cores simultaneously to achieve full multithreading), I think the idea of a quad-core CPU for the iPad would go far beyond the point of diminishing returns. The most valuable thing about the iPad 3 (err, iPad (early 2012)), specs wise, will be the additional RAM. Also, since the iPad 2 was extremely aggressive in downclocking the CPU (did it ever actually run at 1GHz in practice?), maybe the vastly larger battery will allow a bit more freedom to run at max speed when needed.
 
The iPad 2 ranged from 800 to 960 Mhz

What makes you sure iPad 3 doesnt range from 990 to 1200 Mhz

The iPad 2 ranged from 800 to 960? Funny, mine is 1GHz. I guess I got really lucky and got outside of the range... :rolleyes:

I remember when the iPad 2 came out, and how many people said they wouldn't upgrade unless it had the Retina display. Now it has the Retina display and they won't upgrade till it has a Quad-core.

Whatever.

Personally, I had hoped for a retina display on the iPad 2, but the lack of it didn't keep me from upgrading from my iPad 1. This time, however, the changes between the 2 and the 3 aren't significant enough for me to want to upgrade. Not that I think that the retina display isn't fabulous, it's just not so exciting that I feel the need to rush out and get one.

This really goes to my take on the whole HD movement in movies and TV. Is the picture better? Of course. Is it nice to watch movies in this higher resolution? Absolutely. Does an 80% improvement (to use a random, high number) in picture quality equate to an 80% improvement in viewing experience? No, not really. In my estimation, that 80% improvement in picture quality equates to a 10%-15% improvement in viewing experience.

So, long and short, I think that my iPad 2 will last me until the iPad 4 comes out, and I've thought that for the past few months. There were no surprises that made me think that this was something that I needed to get now. And I'm quite happy with that. :)

i was just joking really... Apple could have simply changed the shape of the home button and that would have been enough for me.

I just hope they never release an iTurd, because i will really be wasting my money LOL

You know, admitting you've got a problem is the first step to getting help. ;)

I like all of the improvements of the new iPad, I just wish they would have gone to a 128 gig of memory. I would have paid the additional $.

Yes. This is something that I was hoping for, but wasn't optimistic about. If that had been the case, I might have considered upgrading. Hopefully the iPad 4 will upgrade the storage! :D

I hope you don't need to send(attach) those files to anyone. :)

As someone else who works with PDFs a lot, I routinely mark them up and send them to others. I use both GoodReader and iAnnotate, both of which easily allow you to email PDFs (and other files, in the case of GoodReader).

"Open mouth, insert foot."
 
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Heard of Dropbox? You can send email links of files to anyone.

Sounds like a work around for the iPad's lack of ability to attach files to an email.

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Actually I do. Just flatten the files in Goodreader and e-mail them. Takes about two seconds. :D


The new iPad even takes more than 2 seconds to just open an app so I highly doubt you can open, edit and send an email in 2 seconds.

Sounds like a lot of finger pressing/aerobics just to do a single task of attaching a file.
 
Sounds like a work around for the iPad's lack of ability to attach files to an email.

Don't be upset that multiple people gave you multiple options for sending files. You can be ignorant if you want. You claimed you couldn't send files to anyone from an iPad, and were immediately proved wrong. Own up and move on.
 
As someone else who works with PDFs a lot, I routinely mark them up and send them to others. I use both GoodReader and iAnnotate, both of which easily allow you to email PDFs (and other files, in the case of GoodReader).

"Open mouth, insert foot."

So, you have to open an app, manipulate the file & then send.:confused:
Sounds like some fancy finger ballet work going on to just to perform such a simple task of sending a file attachment.
Doesn't sound efficient or easy for what the iPad was made for.... ease of use. :D

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Don't be upset that multiple people gave you multiple options for sending files. You can be ignorant if you want. You claimed you couldn't send files to anyone from an iPad, and were immediately proved wrong. Own up and move on.

I said I can't hit reply to an email and attach a file.
Now you claim I can but in reality, I must FIRST manipulate a file by opening an app, then some how reply to the original email and attach the file. :confused:

Also, these apps AREN'T FREE !
I must pay to attach files :(
 
Why do you say it isn't rendering at native resolution?
It is a poor assumption. It is possible that the GLBenchmark runs at native resolution. I am sorry if that was kinda confusing. It would seem that the speed increase isn't known because there is no way of turning off vsync.

Keep in mind that GeekBench is *not* Retina-enabled. That means that in the onscreen tests, there's two devices, both rendering to 1024x768 screens, both limited to 60 fps. Meaningless, there. It'll be interesting to see if the A5X can still maintain 60 fps when rendering to the real Retina resolution.
Shoot the scenes just don't seem that complex, that was why I asked if someone could run OGL Viewers Benchmark as a comparison.
 
Who cares about the geekbench scores?
Does scrolling lag? No
Is it slow? No
Is it powerful enough to run the display? Yes
Does it run graphic intensive games well? Yes

To all you people who say "I won't buy it until its quad core" ect ect, I feel sorry for you!

Ignorance is bliss.
"I don't want to know, I don't want to know, I don't want to know."
 
Lack of retina made me bypass the iPad 2.

Now that it finally has it, American LTE and 1 GHz make me want to stick with the iPad 1 another year. It doesn't seem complete.
 
Nonsense. Websites don't have to be updated because you have more resolution on your screen...

Uhh, yeah they do. Here is an article on it.

Content is displayed the same, but at the same zoom level the images will appear "pixelated" compared to the text unless the site provides @2x marked images for safari. The text will be rendered normally, but to get the same scale on the images they have to be pixel doubled.

They don't have to be updated, but those that want to provide the best iPad experience will be updating.
 
I own a first-generation iPad and love it. But when I found out $499 got me:

  • Big jump in color gamut (44%)
  • Double the resolution
  • Qaudruple the RAM
  • Faster CPU
  • Bluetooth 4.0

That was it, I ordered the second the store would let me.

How anyone could be dissapointed over theoretical benchmarks is foreign to me.
 
So, you have to open an app, manipulate the file & then send.:confused:
Sounds like some fancy finger ballet work going on to just to perform such a simple task of sending a file attachment.
Doesn't sound efficient or easy for what the iPad was made for.... ease of use. :D

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I said I can't hit reply to an email and attach a file.
Now you claim I can but in reality, I must FIRST manipulate a file by opening an app, then some how reply to the original email and attach the file. :confused:

Also, these apps AREN'T FREE !
I must pay to attach files :(

First off, you can attach files from iBooks and the Photos apps, both of which are free. Second, the cost of apps like GoodReader and iAnnotate are pretty paltry for the deeper functionality they offer.

Finally, to your point that you can't attach a file to a reply. Yes, you are correct. Due to the app centric philosophy of iOS, there is no way yet to access files that another app is sitting on without going to that app first. This philosophy is certainly different than the standard PC OS philosophy (Mac, Windows, Linux), but that doesn't mean that it is inherently bad.

Consider the following two work flows in the two different settings:
First:
Fred sends me an email asking me to send him the XYZ123.pdf file.
On my iPad:
I exit Mail, launch GoodReader, navigate to the file and hit "Email file". I then fill in Fred's email address, type in a subject and a brief message.
On my Mac:
I hit reply, and type a brief message. Then I click on the "attach" button, navigate the file system to the file and select it.

Second:
Fred sends me an email with ABC789.pdf file attached to it, asking me to review and mark any comments or changes.
On my iPad:
I open the attachment in iAnnotate (or GoodReader). I read and markup the file. I hit "email file" and send it off, adding subject and message as needed.
On my Mac:
I open the attachment in Preview. I read and markup the file. I save the file to some appropriate folder. I switch to Mail and create a new email (or reply to Fred's original email), adding subject and message as needed. I click on the "attach" button, navigate the file system to the file and select it.

As you can see, neither process is truly all that arduous, and each has it's pros and cons. In the case of simply attaching a file, especially to a reply, yes, the Mac workflow is a little more efficient. In the case of being asked to markup a file and send it back, on the other hand, the iPad workflow is actually more efficient.

I expect that at some point Apple will create some sort of central file depository that could be used to attach files to emails created in the Mail app, quite possibly with that depository being located in iCloud, as opposed to on the device itself. I'm sure that they're just trying to work out a method that meets with their approval as far as having a really good user experience goes. Until then, there are, as you say, work arounds. And many of those work arounds, in my opinion, are much better than a poorly implemented filesystem would be...
 
I own a first-generation iPad and love it. But when I found out $499 got me:

  • Big jump in color gamut (44%)
  • Double the resolution
  • Qaudruple the RAM
  • Faster CPU
  • Bluetooth 4.0

That was it, I ordered the second the store would let me.

How anyone could be dissapointed over theoretical benchmarks is foreign to me.

It is not double the resolution. It is quadruple.
 
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