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Besides ivy bridge, is anything else changing with the iMacs?
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Interesting read. I've just sold my mac pro and I'm really looking forward to what Apple bring out next in the iMac line.
I have to say though, I went to look at the current models and as someone else mentioned earlier the 21.5 seems too small and the 27 seems far too big!
How are people finding the 27" to sit in front of?
I have to say though, I went to look at the current models and as someone else mentioned earlier the 21.5 seems too small and the 27 seems far too big!
How are people finding the 27" to sit in front of?
I've got a 27" monitor to go with my iMac and you get used to it.
It's a bit annoying though as my computer really isn't powerful enough to use both screens.
I agree in principle but don't think Jony Ive would let that happen. Think about the added cord length that would be necessary for that to even reach the USB ports on the iMac. They've made a big move to wireless the past few years and I can just hear him cursing and muttering something in Cockney Rhyming Slang about how unappealing that would be.
April has come and gone and it looks like I'm well ahead of this bet from a few months ago. Your words have been marked and they are wrong. Where's my apology?
Incremental upgrades are the most Apple will put in the 2012 iMac. My predictions:
CPU = Ivy Bridge upgrade is a given
GPU = Upgrade is a given, Apple will probably use an AMD 7xxxM chip
RAM = Sticking to 4GB standard
HDD = Will probably stick to similar standard of 500GB on the low end and 1TB moving up the line
SSD = Still a BTO option as SSD prices are still too high for Apple in ship as a standard. A possibility is an SSD with HDD combo where SSD is very small in size and only for installing OS and apps, something like a 60GB SSD but the cost for that is still too high. Lower cost for a BTO SSD option, don't count on it as prices are based on market value.
Bluetooth 4.0 = Strong possibility
USB 3.0 = Medium on the possibility scale. Apple is backing Thunderbolt but may add USB 3.0 support as it's included in Ivy Bridge by default.
Redesign = Ha ha ha, yeah right. Don't count on it in any capacity. This is nothing more than wishful thinking than based in any kind of fact. I'm sure Apple is working on future iMac designs, it's just that the next upgrade will not be a redesign.
Announcement and shipping/release = Summer, no earlier than June. If anything, MacBook Pros will be the first to be upgraded and shipping with Ivy Bridge and that might be in April as soon as Ivy Bridge is shipping from Intel.
Mark your words and use some logic? Man you sure know how to make me laugh. Don't tell me that I ever need to use common sense and logic as I'm not the one who needs to make my writing a little more coherent and logical. To quote a wise man, "Check yo' self before your wreck yo' self". People and their rumors on a rumor site...
I'll take that bet. How about the loser publicly apologizes to the winner on this thread in a few months? We can start in April when you think the iMac upgrade will be released. If it doesn't release, you owe me the apology, if it does, I'll apologize to you. Deal?
yeah, thats what im talking about, the deals on!
so, my prediction
ivy bridge
next gen gpu
usb 3.0 (really, no-brainer)
bluetooth 4.0 (also a no-brainer, i mean come on man, do some thinking)
due in april, maybe first half of may at the latest (375 days from the last update) - apple (and other oems) already has both ivy bridge and next gen gpu for a month now
so your logic - june - that means 400+ days between refreshes (270 average) and you think it could go up to 460+ days, not happened once in recent apple history except with mac pros because of sandy bridge E delay...
and btw why wouldnt apple release a couple of updates on the same day? happened before...
a question, what do you base your expectations on? i do a mix of a lot of reading on every possible tech news site that has credibility and some common sense and logic - which you obviously dont, hello people, intel stated usb 3 supplements thunderbolt, why wouldnt apple use it? the port is already there, and with ivy bridge implementing it natively, apple doesnt have to move a finger and that is what they have been waiting for, also usb 3 and thunderbolt dont compete each other (thunderbolt - professionals - high speed - expensive + video; usb 3 consumers - cheap - low speed = its clear as a day), jesus, some thinking, why do you think there havent been any thunderbolt to usb3 converters? and why there wont be any? and i read here all the time, how is apple backing up thunderbolt? by not implementing usb 3? look at it this way: when they were designing first mpb with thunderbolt, they took a look on intels plans and saw that next year ivy bridge will be implementing usb 3 natively, so they thought why the heck would we want to implement usb 3 with some 3rd party chip when next years it comes with cpu, a perfect decision from an engineers standpoint, dont you think? the same thing with hdmi, why would you want 2 ports (video + data) when you can have one port - thunderbolt (video AND data), those things are clear as a day, and yet some people just refuse to use their brain, like the following statement:
you say bluetooth 4.0 is a strong possibility? you lost all the credibility with this statement... a no-brainer? it appears theres no brain (not as an organ, rather as an intellect), or no usage of it whatsoever
so every mac that has been updated in the past few months (by that, i mean macbook air and mac mini, the 'real' updates, not mbp 6770m and faster cpus as bto) HAVE bluetooth 4.0 and the bluetooth integration in iMac 2012 is a strong possibility? not a given? sorry i just cant get it out of my head
maybe if it was only macbook air, you could then think that only laptops are getting it, but with minis too...
there is a lot more to say, but time tells the best
and yeah, do you even know what coherent means?
You said START in April. You never gave an end time. Looks like it's impossible for him to lose.
so, iMac 2012 (due in april at latest, mark my words, if ivy bridge comes on april 8th, and 7970m also comes out in early Q2, it will be 340 days + from the last refresh, so long overdue, theyll probably come out 10-20 days after ivy bridge release)
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this is not speculation, this is a given, you can count on it, the only thing you cant count on is the redesign, mark my words
Marked them
Sorry I was browsing the thread and couldn't resist!
EDIT: Looks like someone may have beaten me to it!
nah bra
You read too deep into what I said and still didn't come out with the right meaning.
What I meant was starting with his claim that the 2012 iMac would be released in April. It's now mid-May, therefore, he lost. Hopefully, that clarifies that for you.
Marked them
Sorry I was browsing the thread and couldn't resist!
EDIT: Looks like someone may have beaten me to it!
Lol. "Mark my words" is my favorite part. It's one of the funniest things I've ever read anyone put on this forum.
i was wrong about april but you wont get your apology till the end of may, you said at earliest june, and macbooks before imac
counting in ivy bridge delay and amd drivers problem, bet is still on.but im gonna be honest, im hoping you'll win, because then ill be getting myself a redesigned imac, mark my words
i was wrong about april but you wont get your apology till the end of may, you said at earliest june, and macbooks before imac
but im gonna be honest, im hoping you'll win, because then ill be getting myself a redesigned imac, mark my words
You do realize that when you make a bet with someone, you must get ALL parts of your claim correct to win, right? That means that you must get the release timeframe, the specs, the redesign, etc. to even win this. You all ready got the release timeframe wrong, the odds are not in your favor.
You want to change this until the end of the month, fine with me but that's all I'll let go at this point. Your words have been marked.
You want to change this until the end of the month, fine with me but that's all I'll let go at this point. Your words have been marked.
Don't forget "Read my Lips"..... even better than word marking
You do realize that when you make a bet with someone, you must get ALL parts of your claim correct to win, right? That means that you must get the release timeframe, the specs, the redesign, etc. to even win this. You all ready got the release timeframe wrong, the odds are not in your favor.
You want to change this until the end of the month, fine with me but that's all I'll let go at this point. Your words have been marked.
me winning is out of the question, but still, you said june or later, so we have no-mans land in between
regarding specs, i said the bare minimum, ivy bridge, nvidia/amd, bluetooth 4.0, usb 3, thats happening, mark my words
redesign 50/50
you'll get your apology first thing on june 1st, but if it comes earlier...
meanwhile, my pc crapped its pants so now im sitting in front of 13' macbook 2008 cheapest model and its painful. maybe its a sign... for imacs not coming till august...
You do realize that when you make a bet with someone, you must get ALL parts of your claim correct to win, right? That means that you must get the release timeframe, the specs, the redesign, etc. to even win this. You all ready got the release timeframe wrong, the odds are not in your favor.
You want to change this until the end of the month, fine with me but that's all I'll let go at this point. Your words have been marked.
i sincerely apologize for predicting the imac 2012 launch date wrong, YOU were right, i was wrong. i repeat, i sincerely apologize.
however, i dont apologize for getting the update characteristics wrong. it seems to me that we both were wrong expecting the usual specification update, and im glad.
ivy bridge
gtx680m (10-15% better than 7970m)
retina 3840x2160 (27')
thinner
redesign
probably odd-less
usb 3
bluetooth 4
cactus ridge thunderbolt
maybe even IEEE 802.11ac
WWDC introduction
mark my words
i sincerely apologize for predicting the imac 2012 launch date wrong, YOU were right, i was wrong. i repeat, i sincerely apologize.
however, i dont apologize for getting the update characteristics wrong. it seems to me that we both were wrong expecting the usual specification update, and im glad.
ivy bridge
gtx680m (10-15% better than 7970m)
retina 3840x2160 (27')
thinner
redesign
probably odd-less
usb 3
bluetooth 4
cactus ridge thunderbolt
maybe even IEEE 802.11ac
WWDC introduction
mark my words
Marked. If one thing on this is wrong, I will track you down and lash you with a wet noodle.
A GTX 680m in the 2012 i macs, that would certainly be amazing but i doubt it - i reckon at 7xxx series at best, or am i wrong?
I keep seeing conflicting benchmarks on whether or not 680m is better than 7970m...
Captain buzzkill,
Well that would suck/ ruin the point of waiting. Coool announce it on the 11th but wait over a month likely for ML. That scenario will be bs
Sick of waiting. If nothing wwdc week im buying 2011 , unless strong evidence of whats to come and when
If Apple came out today and said "The release date of the 2012 iMac is September 18th, 2012", wouldn't that still be a whole lot better than all of us sitting in the bus yelling "Are we there yet?", and our driver (who happens to be Tim Cook) appearing to lack a tongue?
haha this is great.
yes, there are conflicting reports about 680m, but its a nvidia mobile flagship, and 4900 3dmark score doesnt make sense. we should expect it to be slightly faster than 7970m and considerably more expensive. all in all, it will probably be introduced on computex next week.
these folks know much more than we do, so read what they think if you're interested
but there is one problem. july availability.