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Best Buy CEO Claims iPad Cannibalizing Notebook Sales By 'As Much As 50%'
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I'd say:
notebook > netbook > ipad
IMHO ipads are useless. Consumers can be so gullible to the apple hype...
notebook > netbook > ipad
IMHO ipads are useless. Consumers can be so gullible to the apple hype...
Was wondering that myself. Could the technology get to a point with an iPad that it could replace a MB or MBP? Be interesting to see.
Don't know how I could do Final Cut Express on such a small device, attached to a monitor perhaps. Who knows, anything is possible.
I think it will take a little bit of time.Ok, I guess you've got me convinced.
Well, byebye notebooks soon then.
There are still some things which the iPad (and other tablets-to-be) aren't good for. But things like printing support are going to move everything closer to that goal.
Notebook? what's that?
Well, right around the advent of the iPad I was in the market for a notebook. I bought my last one at BB (when your computer outright dies and you need a replacement RIGHT NOW ...). I was looking at replacing it with a MBA, but that was just a bit too pricy for the time; the bigger models were, well, bigger and I wanted the 3lb maximum having gotten used to my Sony 10" ultraportable. Desktops were out; I need portable for 80% of what I use it for. So ... absent the iPad, I very well may have gone to BB and bought a notebook.
Holding me back was the issue of connectivity. While a notebook is portable and open WiFi routers are around, my "I need Internet access RIGHT NOW" needs still were not satisfied, so I wasn't chomping at the bit for a new machine. The iPod Touch had already replaced most of my portable needs for going on 2 years (tiny unto annoying to type on, yes, but right there whenever I could find a WiFi connection), so a new notebook wouldn't buy me much for connectivity. 3G dongles are, well, dongles - and goofy expensive at that (>$60/mo? no thanks).
Netbooks? underpowered fragile POS. No.
To your half-joking point:
While I'm tech-savvy enough to not go into a BB for a notebook so I can leave with an iPad, I _was_ in the market for a notebook, and had I not know of the iPad but encountered one upon going in to BB to get one DANG STRAIGHT I would have walked out with that instead! 80% of my computing needs in a half-size half-price super-convenient package PLUS half-price unlimited 3G? Heck yeah! Relegate the old notebook to file, print & iTunes server duty, and wallow in The Next Big Thing.
So, yeah, in my case the iPad DID cause BB to lose a notebook sale. Seeing as an Apple Store is closer than a BB, and I wanted it minutes after release (30 to be exact), BB didn't get the competing iPad sale.
Anything can happen. Nothing is perfect.
I notice you are not also pointing out Microsoft with the many opportunities they have missed as well. Only my opinion, just like yours. Nothing more.
Not sure what you mean by "overpriced".
"Anywhere anytime" convenience has already made it pay for itself (as in I made money because of it). Yes, something as trivial as "unfold, power on" can be costly for some jobs.
$30/mo unlimited 3G [gloat] will pay for it by the end of next year, vs. $60/mo capped 3G dongles for a n[ote|et]book.
So ... in a few months this thing will have paid for itself twice over. Hardly "overpriced". Show me something as handy, convenient, cheap, and solid - can't, 'cuz there isn't.
I used to wonder why people would pay for "overpriced" BMWs when a cheap Toyota would do the job fine.
Then I drove on the Autobahn.
Enjoy your Toyota.
He's also not pointing out that nobody is saying Jobs is a GOD who takes and wins every opportunity, and who thru omnipotence and omniscience can prevent every flaw from happening. If "antennagate" was the worst example he can come up with, Jobs is doing pretty darned well.
He's also not responding to the observation that his link as proof of "missing a golden opportunity" belittles his counter-example product as an "executive toy".
He needs to reconsider who is talking out of which orifice.
Bravo..finally a voice of reasoning amongst the many mactards. While some of apple stuff is good, most are over hyped and overpriced
Notebook... gotta plug the ipad into somehting
music player... ipad looks stupid on my arm at the gym
TV/Video player - bedroom and car ... ipad doesnt play well with various media, ota nad all
game console - phsyical controllers always win...
telephone... yeah... lets all skype today, like we did last summer, oh wait my music/video player does that phone thing, plus it has front and rear cameras
furniture and cases... oh yea, thats another cost on the ipad, a case to make it less likely to break and allow it to stand up during my hands free couch surfin
premiums for physical media... well, that would be good if itunes didnt charge more than my local rental store, my local dvd store or the book store (oh wait... ibooks doesnt offer books here yet... wooooo)
yeah, the ipad does add up to a whole heap more
then i have to add in the adapter to fit to a computer screen and sd adapter
but, i will probably purchase v2 next year... but to replace anything? not a chance.
I believe Apple store employees will connect and setup your new iPad before you ever leave the store. From there on, you could survive with just wifi and/or 3g until you wanted an iOS upgrade. I suppose at that point you could probably get it by taking your iPad to an Apple store.
Not optimal, but you could in fact use an iPad effectively without a computer.
Not optimal, but you could in fact use an iPad effectively without a computer.
Why would you want to "survive" if for the same price you could buy great netbook or a decent laptop? No worries about update, printing etc.
No kidding. TV prices are too high and with more video getting pushed to portable devices like the iPad (I use netflix) casual viewing may not always be on the HDTV.
Not if you are trying to do heavy editing or high end Windows games but for most surfing and some web-based apps the ipad is perfect. Add printing and more VDI (Virtual Desktops host in the cloud, home or work) access and you will have less and less need for anything other than high-end laptops for specific tasks. For everything else the iPad is probably fine.
Luckily for Apple manny many more people disagree. For most web surfing and simple computing task the iPad is a great tool. Though I still don't understand the lack of a Calculator App.
I agree. Common usage applied to specific fields vs. absolute definition.
Agreed, printing and consistent, secure remote access to full PC at work or home and many laptop/notebook purchases are no more!
Cheers,
True and you can buy a netbook for much cheaper than an ipad. Some netbooks cost as low as $199. My next ultra-portable computer will probably be a netbook
It's funny to think the CEO of Best Buy doesn't know the meaning of the word cannibalize... "The negative impact of a company's own new product on the sales performance of its existing related products."
That would make it impossible for an Apple iPad to cannibalize PC notebooks!!!! Apple doesn't make PC notebooks!!! What it's doing is obliterating the PC notebook market! HAHAHA
Because netbooks are cheaply-built, underpowered pieces of crap? And aren't there some situations where an iPad is handier than a "decent" laptop? And if you've made up your mind that a laptop is what you need, why "survive" with merely "decent"?
See? Other people can ask inane, loaded questions just as easily as you do.
Good netbooks are more powerful than iPad but that's not an issue here. The issue is that if someone had to limit himself to just one computer iPad (or Android-based tablet) would be the worst choice.
Printing, I give you, but updates... OMG, every time I turn on my notebook, it spends the first half hour updating! And yes, it's my fault for not using it every day, but since I got my iPad, it's been so much more convenient to turn to my iPad for most things, and in the rare instances when something can't be easily done on the iPad, I still find myself hunting for ways to do them on the iPad, because turning on my notebook would mean waiting and waiting for the notebook to download and install all the updates! I'm really looking forward to the day when I no longer need a notebook and all I need would be my desktop and my iPad!
While it's true that iPad wouldn't work well as someone's only computer, how did we slide over to this topic? This thread was about BestBuy claiming that iPad is eating away into notebook sales. How many people use a notebook as their only computer? If they do, it's probably a higher-end notebook that's as powerful as some desktops. I doubt iPads are replacing higher-end notebooks, but I can see people buying them in place of lower-end notebooks and netbooks.
This is why there will be no new iPad until next year.
The current iPad 1 is selling well enough that Apple doesn't need to rev its hardware until next year. Updating to iOS 4.2 will add value to existing customers and help keep the buzz at a fever pitch through the holiday sales season.
I still think that announcing each year's new iPad just after CES in January is a brilliant idea. Every single iPad wannabe will be announced at CES, and every single one of them will be compared to iPad. Bloggers, journalists, and random tweeters will all be giving Apple free publicity throughout CES. (And anytime a wannabe and Apple are mentioned together, Apple wins.)
Then, a few days after CES, Apple announces the year's new iPad model and suddenly all those wannabes will get no more press. There will be another round of blogging and official tech journalists' "first impressions" stories. And a few weeks after the announcement the first iPads will actually hit the market. Time for more hands-on reviews, unboxing ceremony photo galleries, iFixit teardowns, comments, criticism, and for the new iPad ads to be rolled out.
This all takes months. If Apple wanted to establish a new iPad before the 2010 holiday shopping season, they would need to release it right about now. But there's no hurry. The 2010 iPad is selling well enough that Apple can and should wait until January before even announcing the inevitable next-gen iPad.
The current iPad 1 is selling well enough that Apple doesn't need to rev its hardware until next year. Updating to iOS 4.2 will add value to existing customers and help keep the buzz at a fever pitch through the holiday sales season.
I still think that announcing each year's new iPad just after CES in January is a brilliant idea. Every single iPad wannabe will be announced at CES, and every single one of them will be compared to iPad. Bloggers, journalists, and random tweeters will all be giving Apple free publicity throughout CES. (And anytime a wannabe and Apple are mentioned together, Apple wins.)
Then, a few days after CES, Apple announces the year's new iPad model and suddenly all those wannabes will get no more press. There will be another round of blogging and official tech journalists' "first impressions" stories. And a few weeks after the announcement the first iPads will actually hit the market. Time for more hands-on reviews, unboxing ceremony photo galleries, iFixit teardowns, comments, criticism, and for the new iPad ads to be rolled out.
This all takes months. If Apple wanted to establish a new iPad before the 2010 holiday shopping season, they would need to release it right about now. But there's no hurry. The 2010 iPad is selling well enough that Apple can and should wait until January before even announcing the inevitable next-gen iPad.
How narrow-minded. It's complete ignorance to call a product that will sell between 25-35 million units next year useless, especially when you haven't used one (maybe apart from playing with it at the store for a few minutes).
As I said, the iPad has replaced my $1,799 MBA and it's less than half the price, half the weight, and double the battery life.
Some of the criticisms are ridiculous. Heavy video editing and high-end windows gaming? Have fun trying to do these things on ANY notebook, regardless of price.
Please define 'computer' for me.
Most who make your statement are defining it in a backward facing way. Yes the iPad doesn't look like the general purpose boxes of the past 30 years. So what? I get more useful and varied day to day use from my iPad and iPhone than I do from my desktop.