I bought a mini 10v netbook last year and although I haven't used an iPad, based on the look and feel of my iPod I would definitely choose the iPad if they were priced the same. I use my iPod everyday, I haven't touched my netbook in a month. I guess that says something.
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Best Buy CEO Claims iPad Cannibalizing Notebook Sales By 'As Much As 50%'
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Well I am one of those that thought about a netbook not as cheap computer - but more like a net device.
This could be a semantics thing... Baker could have been speaking off the cuff and meaning netbooks and notebooks overall.
To that end not all desktop users need the power of true notebook. I know that for myself Pages and Keynote on the iPad is more than enough for the things that I would have used the MBP for most of the time. The only reason I have a MBP is that I needed portability for the simple stuff.
You may have a point there... Apple's margins generally stink as I recall. But great margins on the stuff that has the iPad ready logo on it...
It really does not. We have yet to see if iPad owners are still going to use iPad after one year. Some iPad owners already reported on this forum that they lost interest in the device in just a few months.
TV sales are down? Does anyone need any more TVs? Not me.
And 3D TV? I usually only go to 3D movies because thats the only movies playing when I can get to the theater. 3D is ok, but I don't think its worth $3 extra.
Movie ticket sales are down too. When are these clowns going to figure out that 3D isn't going to save movies and its not going to save TV sets? A crappy movie is still crappy in 3D and good movies are still good in 2D. The year of the home theater was a few years ago, now everyone wants their own personal video screen and their own shows.
I'm likely going to purchase an AppleTV to be able to watch streamed shows from Netflicks. I'll cut back on my cable bill and pay for the thing in 3 months.
And 3D TV? I usually only go to 3D movies because thats the only movies playing when I can get to the theater. 3D is ok, but I don't think its worth $3 extra.
Movie ticket sales are down too. When are these clowns going to figure out that 3D isn't going to save movies and its not going to save TV sets? A crappy movie is still crappy in 3D and good movies are still good in 2D. The year of the home theater was a few years ago, now everyone wants their own personal video screen and their own shows.
I'm likely going to purchase an AppleTV to be able to watch streamed shows from Netflicks. I'll cut back on my cable bill and pay for the thing in 3 months.
Thank you! For a while there I thought I was reading it wrong since everyone kept saying netbooks. Notebooks people, notebooks. This makes it even more impressive that it includes netbooks and notebooks.
Link to this "quote"? Or is this just more anecdotal Apple-hater "data"? It's "magical" how you people come up with this stuff.
Horrible attempt at trolling. One could make the exact same statements about any purchase of an item new to the market...
"We have yet to see if Segway owners are still going to use Segway after one year. Some Segway owners already reported on this forum that they lost interest in the device in just a few months."
"We have yet to see if Roomba owners are still going to use Roomba after one year. Some Roomba owners already reported on this forum that they lost interest in the device in just a few months."
I'm sure back in the day, we would have gotten the following from someone like lilo777 here...
"We have yet to see if iPod owners are still going to use iPod after one year. Some iPod owners already reported on this forum that they lost interest in the device in just a few months."
I don't need you to believe me. I was not trying to convince you, nor anybody else here.
I was just saying, as this is a forum, my personal point of view, which is: I don't believe its statement. And my purpose was to see if I can get any good and smart answers to make me understand if that statement can be true, and indeed, I've got some pretty good/smart answers which turned me around to believe that iPad can eventually replace a notebook (as long as one have a good enough desktop back home for doing the "creative oriented" hardwork, while on the iPad that one will do its "consumer oriented" activities).
It's as simple as that.
Not everyone has access to a computer
My sister, my uncles & aunts, most of my customers that I see at their homes, even some of my teachers at the local community college that teach in the micro computer field. Only the last group have access to computers at all. Most of these teachers are not allowed to put any of their own software on a school computer. Does that still mean that they have access to a computer when put in your context?
The Android OS does not require a separate computer, I'm not sure that the iPad needs an external computer. I could put software on my iPod Touch without using my computer. Having a copy of your software from your smart phone or iPad makes life easier when your device gets messed up & it must be restored. But this can still be done even without a computer.
My sister, my uncles & aunts, most of my customers that I see at their homes, even some of my teachers at the local community college that teach in the micro computer field. Only the last group have access to computers at all. Most of these teachers are not allowed to put any of their own software on a school computer. Does that still mean that they have access to a computer when put in your context?
The Android OS does not require a separate computer, I'm not sure that the iPad needs an external computer. I could put software on my iPod Touch without using my computer. Having a copy of your software from your smart phone or iPad makes life easier when your device gets messed up & it must be restored. But this can still be done even without a computer.
It is not me you are asking this, but I'd like to say something anyway.
I don't think everyone who has worked with an iPad for some time
finds it that useful.
We are a small software developer and we have developed software for various platforms including iOS. We had to wait to get an iPad fairly long and we were making jokes about it during the wait ("iPads are just a media hype, they don't exist in reality!"), but it was highly anticipated here. Now we have used it in development and testing extensively and we are not so impressed any more.
I have talked to everyone here in the office what they think about the iPad. Everyone thinks it's a great piece of technology. But it is seen as a toy. Yes, an impressive toy, but still a toy. No one is going to buy one for himself. Note that we do not dislike iOS in general. Several people in our team use iPhone or iPod touch personally.
I know that we probably do NOT represent the "general customer". It may be useful for other people. But it is incorrect to assume that everyone who does not choose an iPad does not know it good enough to have a competent optinion.
Christian
One thing that people dont seem to be picking up on is that kids to young to type or spell can interact like crazy with ipads. Many people I know who have bought these devices have done it for their toddlers and pre-schoolers...and then later have to buy another one for themselves.
Well, I bought a MacBook Pro about 2 months before picking up my iPad (when it was released). After not touching my MacBook for 3 months since, I decided to turn it into an HTPC so that it actually gets some use.
The iPad is just more convenient for most situations where I would have turned to my MBP before. (Keeping in mind I have a Mac Pro for normal computer stuff).
Apple probably doesn't mind people buying iPads instead of MacBooks because these people have to be syncing their iPad to something. In many cases, that would mean an iMac or Mac Pro.
The iPad is just more convenient for most situations where I would have turned to my MBP before. (Keeping in mind I have a Mac Pro for normal computer stuff).
Apple probably doesn't mind people buying iPads instead of MacBooks because these people have to be syncing their iPad to something. In many cases, that would mean an iMac or Mac Pro.
Does anyone know whether it is technically possible to connect a camera to the docking port so that you could effectively have an IPAD with a camera? IMO, this is the tipping point for most people on the fence. Where are the 3rd party apple periferal suppliers and why arent they working on this?
Exactly the same, although I have much more life in my macbook pro and hope to use it for another three years.
Dear Christian, I might not be a software designer like you, but i thought exactly the same as you described... Till i actually bought an iPad. It revolutionised my life- i read books, newspaers, watch films, surf, do studying. My laptop is now my standard computor and i use it directly only once or twice a week. More often i use Logmein to do it on my ipad from a distance. Buy one and you will change your mind, I promise
Uh, yeah that's how they do it exactly. Products (or SKUs as we like to call them) are classified under very broad headings and iPad would naturally fall in the column with portable computers like Laptops and Netbooks. They don't have a "Magical" category yet.
Maybe, but not yet. Amazon are pricing the new Samsung Galaxy 'Tab' at GBP800. That is quite a bit of money.. (iPads are GBP429)
I agree, but only in the realm of the average medium weight user. When you do most of your work via word processing, presentation software and other light computing tasks it would make sense to just grab the portable and an iPad. Even storage space and HDD speed has become a moot point between desktop computing and mobile computing.
I personally will be using my iPad for just that, drafting up contracts accessing my iDisk for sending files, showing off video and photo projects to clients, etc. Perfect for an iPad.
My laptop is used for the location and mobile jobs, and the future Mac Pro will be the hammer for rendering out those HD projects that take forever on any less than 8 cores.
p.s. The iPad as a standalone device would make it the perfect netbook replacement. You still have to use the iPad like a giant iPod, so that may be the only thing that prevents that first time computer buyer from grabbing one and using it as their sole machine.
Fair enough. But I believe the post you were responding to was responding to a poster who admitted they don't own / have extensive experience with an iPad.
So ... why are you here?
"the average piece of junk is more meaningful than our criticism designating it so." - Ratatouille
Just ask yourself for what most owners of cheap PC laptops and netbooks are using them.
I'll bet it is mainly for surfing, e-mailing and social networking.
Honestly, even I seldom use my Macbook for much more.
If you are used to Mac Pro workhorse speeds, a C2D feels rather underpowered and not much fun for doing heavy work.
Therefore my MB has turned more into an entertainment and communication device than the mobile work computer as originally planned.
I'll bet as soon as my highly anticipated iPad 2.0 arrives, the Macbook will start collecting dust.
While iPads certainly won't cannibalize sales of highend business laptops and Macbook Pros, they seem the perfect replacement for all those home laptops used for basic communication.
One family desktop computer for the occasional heavy work and to sync the family members iPads, and average people's computing needs are fulfilled perfectly!
I hope there is soon an iOS app for geo tagging all the no-lifes who said; a) that the iPad would be a massive FAIL, b) that the iPad couldn't be classed as a computer, and c) that netbooks would continue to sell well, then when one of the losers walked by you could either giggle silently to yourself, laugh contemptuously in their faces, or better still, do the human gene-pool a favor and engage in a spot of seal clubbing.
I just don't understand why they are so he11-bent on declaring, at every opportunity they can seek out, that the iP* is not a universal replacement for every computing device imaginable - and somehow that's a bad thing.
Yes, you can't clip it to your t-shirt for jogging. (So get a Shuffle already.)
Yes, it doesn't have a 27" screen. (So get an AppleTV and "push" video there.)
Yes, it doesn't have a physical keyboard. (So get a Bluetooth one.)
Yes, it doesn't handle physical media. (So sync it with the host computer.)
Yes, it isn't a computer replacement. (So get a real computer already.)
They keep insisting iP*s are useless because they don't do what they weren't designed to.
Well, a car isn't a shirt so it sucks too.
To paraphrase the father of computing:
"I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such an insult." - Charles Babbage