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People who have to get stuff done and need device serviceability, but wouldn't trade it off for a - although very nice to have - beefed up display.

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Sure sure, because you need to buy a 3-years old computer to "get stuff done". Serviceability? Most failures are related to HDD due to moving parts. With SDD, less prone to failure. Next is the screen/hinge. Equal serviceability in both cases. And finally, the cables. Equal serviceability as well. So really, claiming better serviceability with the 2012 model is splitting hairs.

Ask anyone which one they'd prefer to receive as a gift and they'll answer the newer one. Let's face it: you chose the older one only for the financial aspect.
 
Sure sure, because you need to buy a 3-years old computer to "get stuff done". Serviceability? Most failures are related to HDD due to moving parts. With SDD, less prone to failure. Next is the screen/hinge. Equal serviceability in both cases. And finally, the cables. Equal serviceability as well. So really, claiming better serviceability with the 2012 model is splitting hairs.

Ask anyone which one they'd prefer to receive as a gift and they'll answer the newer one. Let's face it: you chose the older one only for the financial aspect.
I chose neither one, but my iMac ('11 granted, but because they actually last and I CAN upgrade RAM, the disk, ...) is a top of the line model.

And well, the part where the MBP is 3 years old is annoying, but it's even more annoying that that's the option Apple gives you if you need all these things.
Most failures are HDD related, indeed, but SSDs still break, people still figure they need more space after a certain while sometimes and quite frankly, you must not be aware that the Pro line of Apple's computers has been massively used by non-pros, so latter can easily happen.
What also happens is that you pay through the nose for more storage with Apple, oh am I sorry, prices shouldn't play a role in buying decisions, right? Or can they, I'm confused what that meant, because Apple obviously doesn't like educated buyers too much when they ask premiums for more storage that are several multitudes more expensive than DIY options.

Never had to upgrade RAM either, huh?

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good to know....well that will be the model $100 off and it will probably be in tiers from there.
The lack of detail on the watch deal seems odd compared to the "fully-disclosed" iPad deals.

So I'm wondering if it's a bundled deal? Something like buy two and get $100 off the total.

That, or maybe they're still negotiating with Apple on how, exactly, they can discount the watch?
 
anyone know of applecare deals on macbook pros for black friday this year, can't recall if there were any last year.
 
I just bought an iPad Air 2, Silver cellular from Best Buy. It was painless and saved me 100 bucks.
I've always liked the experience buying from Best Buy. I usually buy from Apple, but saving 100 dollars today didn't hurt my feelings, and I don't have to spend more money to realize my savings. That money just stayed in the bank.
 
anyone know of applecare deals on macbook pros for black friday this year, can't recall if there were any last year.
Look on eBay. I saved 30 dollars on an MBA Applecare + package and it registered on the Apple Site without a problem. I'm sure you can find one there.
 
Staples told me on the phone that they had some 128gb space gray models in stock. When I got there, an employee promptly told me that I was misinformed. After Best Buy's phone system told me they could've tell me availability and pricing, I ended up going to my Target that was a couple doors down from the Staples to get my new iPad.

All in all, I was disappointed by this first time that I've dared getting something in-store on a Black Friday.
 
Staples told me on the phone that they had some 128gb space gray models in stock. When I got there, an employee promptly told me that I was misinformed. After Best Buy's phone system told me they could've tell me availability and pricing, I ended up going to my Target that was a couple doors down from the Staples to get my new iPad.

All in all, I was disappointed by this first time that I've dared getting something in-store on a Black Friday.

Staples had the best deal this year, $150 off at checkout, but were sold out by 9-10am Thanksgiving day (all 16 abd 64GB wifi models) and their website is TERRIBLE. It still shows "Add to Cart" for the wifi 16 and 64s randomly from out of stock but then says sold out.

Their website is a nightmare how they still have Add to Cart up for some out of stock items but not others and it's changing randomly. I cant believe its that hard for such a big company to get right 24 hours later now with still the same issues.

NO Staples stores around me have any either (according to their horrible website but who knows frankly). Just a nightmare dealing with Staples frankly.
 
anyone know of applecare deals on macbook pros for black friday this year, can't recall if there were any last year.
Search these forums, B&H offers a big discount about 365 days each year - around 30%. Sometimes Amazon matches that price - I also was given a year of Amazon's Unlimited File Cloud Storage (not the Photo Storage) just for buying from them. I've bought from both vendors - B&H had it in my hands the next day with free expedited shipping, and I'm on the other side of the country. No Black Friday required. Pay full price for AC, and you just wasted $80-100...
 
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