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I was at Best Buy the weekend before and playing around with the TouchPad and Galaxy Tab. The thing that struck me was the sluggish web page loads of the HP TouchPad and the Galaxy Tab as compared to the iPad. Screen rotation response was also quite sluggish and "iffy."

A few other minor things (concerning both hardware and OS) that would take too many words to adequately describe spoke to its lack of quality versus an iPad.

Suffice it to say, since the price is the same as an iPad, is that many of those consumers who bought it, must have done so to be contrariwise.

Yeah, not sure what version of WebKit that HP is using, but it blows compared to iOS and even Lion
 
I actually prefer WebOS to iOS. For me it's a better OS. It's a pity devs aren't taking it on and building better apps for it. That's the only reason I keep my iPod Touch.
 
HP was the worst possible company to buy Palm and expect to do something innovative in the consumer space. There are lot of good things about webOS and even the TouchPad, but buying a HP TouchPad would be like getting tongue from your grandmother...they just aren't right together.

Apple could have snapped them up and gained their massive patent portfolio. Heck, RIM could have taken them and merged the strengths of RIM and the BB with the sexiness of webOS. Instead, grandma tongue.

I think the TouchPad has something to do with sex. It kinda sounds like it.

Something going on here I don't understand. :confused:

That first image kind of put you off sex for a while :p
 
im not a troll or a hater... i really like apple products and i LOVE COMPETITION.. even Android that has swept apple off its feet in 2010-11... and forced apple's hand...

competition will keep apple from becoming complacent, and bring forth competitive pricing, and faster and more robust iOS deployments... so i welcome competition

BUT TO YOUR POINT... THE TROLLS lost BIG today... and the WEB OS fanboys lost hard today... and competitors had better make something up to par of the Retina Display Ipad 3.... i think 2012 is going to be a really rough year for non-apple stakeholders

I think you are kind of Borderline at this point.

This is not a competition, definitely not a race. It's more like a Marathon.
No need to offend anyone just due to a different Tablet preference.
 
The problem is that so far there's no real competitor. Several people I know who have bought Android phones (some more than model) tell me they regret not getting an iPhone. Well, they were trying to save some money. For most people the iPhone is not cheap, at least not the ones with the higher RAM.

make no doubt about it man... Android is a SERIOUS COMPETITOR(for phones)... i saw reports that they had a higher market share/etc than apple earlier this year... due to putting multiple devices on all networks...

apple cannot continue to release 1 phone every 12-15 months... when android puts out 2-3 every 4 months

Android is pretty much every bit as technologically sound as apple..

android a very scary competitor... with the exception of their customized OS's on various devices..

android proved something... give the customers MORE choices, stylish hardware and the popular features, and they could care less about a dominant brand or hardware brand
 
make no doubt about it man... Android is a SERIOUS COMPETITOR... i saw reports that they had a higher market share/etc than apple earlier this year... due to putting multiple devices on all networks...

Android is pretty much every bit as technologically sound as apple..

android a very scary competitor... with the exception of their customized OS's on various devices..

android proved something... give the customers MORE choices, stylish hardware and the popular features, and they could care less about a dominant brand or hardware brand

My main concern with Android devices, just as with Windows Mobile and Symbian, etc. since the past, has been with the manufacturer abandoning their older devices, or not providing enough updates and upgrades.
And Nokia, HTC, Sony-Ericsson have proven to me that their commitment to their current models will not really last much.
 
Competition is good, you wanna know why? Just look at iOS 5 for the most glaring view at what competition has done to Apple. Also look at the LTE rumors as of late to see what competition has or is doing... Before this it seemed apple was moving at their own pace, giving incremental upgrade here and there...

Now that android is whoopin azz, they much one up on nearly every flaw faster than they have in the past!
 
This says it all right here:

HP's price cut may not be having the desired effect, however, as reports coming in from retailers suggest that consumers are continuing to hold off in hopes that prices drop even further.

If consumers would hold off on buying Apple products, then Apple wouldn't be allowed to charge so much for their stuff... but alas, everyone runs down, waits in line, and continues to fuel the greed that has allowed Apple to turn into the giant that it is today.
 
I actually prefer WebOS to iOS. For me it's a better OS. It's a pity devs aren't taking it on and building better apps for it. That's the only reason I keep my iPod Touch.

I personally don't understand all the love for WebOS or others. Splashy screens that show my local weather with a nice clock, and have a cool interface are irrelevant when I am in my App. If I am editing a video, playing Angry Birds or typing a document, I'm not concerned with the OS. Make it clean, simple, efficient and a power miser. It is about the Apps, how smoothly they run, how many they are, how easy it is to purchase them and how simple it is to cross-platform them from Touch, to phone to iPad. Apple gets it; it's the infrastructure and clean simple and effective interface that my 80-year-old dad or a 5 year old can use.
 
Competition is good, you wanna know why? Just look at iOS 5 for the most glaring view at what competition has done to Apple. Also look at the LTE rumors as of late to see what competition has or is doing... Before this it seemed apple was moving at their own pace, giving incremental upgrade here and there...

Now that android is whoopin azz, they much one up on nearly every flaw faster than they have in the past!

THIS...

iOS 5.0 is a huge indicator that apple is trying to at least stay as competitive as they can a/g Android OS development

widgets, ROM/customizations and multitasking were a huge win with the customers for android...those years of apple just making small changes in the OS are long gone...

notification center?, in app notifications?! lock screen app summary/highlights... just to name a few

hopefully 2011 was a big wakeup call for apple.. they need a stronger/aggressive iOS os development strategy
 
Well, the russel brand/glee girl advertisements are practically the old spice commercials compared to the creepy chick ads Palm did for the Pre in 2009.

Is that what that is? Geez, I've heard that annoying "Let me entertain you..." jingle commercial a dozen times since breakfast this morning. Still wasn't sure what tablet they were selling.

Which, I think, is part of the problem with all the other tablets. They look like an iPad, they're priced about the same as an iPad, but they aren't an iPad. If you're going to sell knockoffs (I'm not saying they actually are knockoffs, but I think that's how the consumer probably sees them) you have to sell them at a greatly reduced price. Otherwise, why wouldn't I just buy an iPad?
 
It is worth noting that all the best buys I have been to have not installed the latest updates and do not have any touchpads connected to wifi... Of corse no one will buy a product when best buy can't make it usable for people to test out. This is in my opinion a failure on best buys part. (not that HP was going to have amazing sales anyways but best buy did not try to sell these at all).

I wonder if Apple has a rule that all their devices have to be running the latest release? Because I notice that none of the other tablets were running latests releases. They seem to run whatever they came with. In the TouchPads case, that is bad, cause 3.0 isn't all that great.
 
I don't we will see real competition until the Windows 8 tablets start coming out. That when it will get exciting.

How many times have we heard that before?

"wait until the xoom comes"
"wait till galaxy tab comes"
"wait till touchpad comes"
"just wait until __________ (insert new tablet that is about to be released) comes"


Ipad dominates, and will continue to do so..
 
well, it's not like Verizon's iPad is selling well. BB around me are filled with Verizon's iPads.
 
iPod:MP3 Players :: iPad:Tablets

Unless someone can break out of the "me too" pack and innovate, Apple will lockdown its marketshare here just like it did with the portable music market.

Exactly. In markets where the true cost of good isn't hidden by phone contracts, Apple clearly wins.


How many times have we heard that before?

"wait until the xoom comes"
"wait till galaxy tab comes"
"wait till touchpad comes"
"just wait until __________ (insert new tablet that is about to be released) comes"


Ipad dominates, and will continue to do so..

You forgot the HP Slate, aka HP's late. Or dell streak, etc.
 
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I tried a touched in store. it seemed descent although I am not sold on two things. one is card view being the main view. they need a desktop like Android with a separate gesture to enter card mode. also the ripples around your finger presses are very irritating. I am sure you can turn this off but it is stupid in the first place as I can clearly see where my finger is and feel when it touches the screen. I don't need the ripple to let me know. also it is thiclet than an iPad and heavier and feels like junk due to its smooth plastic back. pc makers are stupid and HP is no exception. just look at the laptops they ate selling with touched that feel horrible, and are shifted so you have to reach across your body to use it. anything comparable in quality to a MAC costs more like the HP envy.
 
make no doubt about it man... Android is a SERIOUS COMPETITOR(for phones)... i saw reports that they had a higher market share/etc than apple earlier this year... due to putting multiple devices on all networks...

apple cannot continue to release 1 phone every 12-15 months... when android puts out 2-3 every 4 months

Android is pretty much every bit as technologically sound as apple..

android a very scary competitor... with the exception of their customized OS's on various devices..

android proved something... give the customers MORE choices, stylish hardware and the popular features, and they could care less about a dominant brand or hardware brand


Google doesn't charge for Android. if they did the handsets would all be more expensive and people wouldn't be buying them.
 
apple cannot continue to release 1 phone every 12-15 months... when android puts out 2-3 every 4 months

Why not? They have the bestselling phone in the world. They are gaining market share with a year old phone (with massively publicized antenna issues). The key factor in why they don't have higher market share is not Android. It's manufacturing capacity!

android proved something... give the customers MORE choices, stylish hardware and the popular features, and they could care less about a dominant brand or hardware brand

You forgot the most important factors. More carriers. Lower prices.
 
the iPad is just snappier, it "just works"

I haven't seen 1 other tablet computer be nearly as snappy and efficient at what it does than the iPad

That is a huge part of its appeal - the responsiveness and the fact that is so obvious how things work.
I frequent a lot of our local phone/computer stores fairly regularly and it is so interesting to watch people trying these things out.
None have the iPad's accessibility and some are downright obtuse (the Playbook). None have the same consistency of response (the difference in speed between scrolling horizontally and vertically on Android for instance).

The Touchpad is just plain sad - a gorgeous OS ruined by being launched half tested and with pathetic app support. I cry when I think of ho wI loved the Pre when I first tried one.
 
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Point is, they aren't getting a good presentation. NObody going into the Best Buy I went into would buy any of those tablets. If it isn't in the front, it isn't important. If it isn't flashy, it [...]

Sounds pretty much like the demise of the Mac in the 90's...
 
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