Best Buy to Begin Selling Apple Watch on August 7

[Small White Car]

There absolutely nothing wrong with the initial Apple Watch.
...
Watch OS2 will make it better...

If there's "nothing wrong" with it then it's impossible to "make it better."

I've never said anything bad about Apple Watch owners. I'm glad you enjoy it. But you can't derided me for saying it will improve in the future and then go and tell me it will improve in the future in the very same post.

 

[bbeagle]

If there's "nothing wrong" with it then it's impossible to "make it better."

I've never said anything bad about Apple Watch owners. I'm glad you enjoy it. But you can't derided me for saying it will improve in the future and then go and tell me it will improve in the future in the very same post.

"There is nothing wrong with my Steak & Lobster dinner"
"Adding a glass of wine would make it better!"

Are NOT mutually exclusive.

 

[Small White Car]

"There is nothing wrong with my Steak & Lobster dinner"
"Adding a glass of wine would make it better!"

Are NOT mutually exclusive.

You can't just add another item to the argument.

"This apple watch is perfect but adding an iPad would make it better!"

Ok, but that's got nothing to do with the watch, then.

 

[Infinitewisdom]

I dislike shopping at Best Buy and avoid it when at all possible. The problem is that it's usually the easiest place to buy what I want if I don't want to wait for Amazon to ship.

 

[imanidiot]

Nice! Apple is getting prepared for a BUSY holiday season! By the end of the year, I expect to see a TON more people with an Apple Watch.

You are delusional. This is capitulation. Hubris invites Nemesis...

 

[jwbrobst]

Ooooohhhhh can't wait to look up that employee discount!

 

[jwbrobst]

I dislike shopping at Best Buy and avoid it when at all possible. The problem is that it's usually the easiest place to buy what I want if I don't want to wait for Amazon to ship.

As a Best Buy worker (soon to quit) can I ask why?

 

[Brien]

What are you willing to bet they only sell the Sport models? I wouldn't be surprised if the Watch/Edition models end up Apple Store/fashion boutique exclusives.

 

[Glideslope]

Now we can see if there's a boom in sales

Won't increase sales in a measurable way.

If there's "nothing wrong" with it then it's impossible to "make it better."

I've never said anything bad about Apple Watch owners. I'm glad you enjoy it. But you can't derided me for saying it will improve in the future and then go and tell me it will improve in the future in the very same post.

It's not worth the effort. You're using logic. Mostly fantasy in AW threads.

 

[imanidiot]

What are you willing to bet they only sell the Sport models? I wouldn't be surprised if the Watch/Edition models end up Apple Store/fashion boutique exclusives.

You miss the point. The whole idea of the Apple Watch was exclusivity/hipster-fashion cred, pushing Apple's already widely accepted cool factor to the next level, by creating an almost entirely superfluous luxury/lifestyle product/product category and making the world mad for it. If one can go into Best Buy and purchase one, without an appointment, without special handling, without being taken into a cordoned-off VIP area, even if only the Sport model, the appeal of the higher-end models is immediately diluted. You haven't been paying attention, but, on the other hand, why should you have (or anyone, really)?. Tim Cook (and Apple) will, in time, come to regret this little exercise in untrammeled ego. We are Apple, We can do anything, and make you love it.
This is an important mis-step for Apple, IMHO, and---as much as I hate to invoke this---would never have happened under SJ's reign.
But of course we have the car coming. Wow, it just gets better and better.

 

[Denmac1]

You miss the point. The whole idea of the Apple Watch was exclusivity/hipster-fashion cred, pushing Apple's already widely accepted cool factor to the next level, by creating an almost entirely superfluous luxury/lifestyle product/product category and making the world mad for it. If one can go into Best Buy and purchase one, without an appointment, without special handling, without being taken into a cordoned-off VIP area, even if only the Sport model, the appeal of the higher-end models is immediately diluted. You haven't been paying attention, but, on the other hand, why should you have (or anyone, really)?. Tim Cook (and Apple) will, in time, come to regret this little exercise in untrammeled ego. We are Apple, We can do anything, and make you love it.
This is an important mis-step for Apple, IMHO, and---as much as I hate to invoke this---would never have happened under SJ's reign.
But of course we have the car coming. Wow, it just gets better and better.

I agree, this will dilute the experience. Steve did talk about a car. He also talked TV, but we see where that went. More and more, it appears that the bean counters have taken over. Don't get me started on the retail experience....

 

[bbeagle]

You miss the point. The whole idea of the Apple Watch was exclusivity/hipster-fashion cred, pushing Apple's already widely accepted cool factor to the next level, by creating an almost entirely superfluous luxury/lifestyle product/product category and making the world mad for it. If one can go into Best Buy and purchase one, without an appointment, without special handling, without being taken into a cordoned-off VIP area, even if only the Sport model, the appeal of the higher-end models is immediately diluted.

Can it be possible that you're completely wrong about the Apple Watch then? That it's NOT about exclusivity or hipster fashion cred? Because this whole Best Buy thing conflicts with your idea of what the product is and what Apple is.

That it's really about the way I use mine - about utility and freeing us from our phones? I, like most people who bought an Apple Watch, never went into an Apple Store for a fitting or wear my watch for fashion. I bought it online, in private. I've got an unnoticeable black sport watch with black band. And I do NOT want people to notice it or stop me and have me explain it to them. That's NOT why I bought it. I'm using it to make my connected life better (which for me means LESS distractions), and it's working.

But that destroys your whole world view of this product, and Apple as a company, so that's not possible, right?

 

[imanidiot]

[QUOTE="bbeagle, post: 21640810, member: 504430"
But that destroys your whole world view of this product, and Apple as a company, so that's not possible, right?[/QUOTE]
Of course it's possible. But I don't think it's true. No offense. Just an opinion. We are permitted those, are we not? Enjoy your watch. How did you ever get along without it?

 

[Noble Actual]

They didn't have the stock... Hence why it took over a month for the preorders to be completely filled.

I mean, don't they always use that excuse whether its actually true or not?

And say even if they didn't have stock, that does mostly like do to manufactoring issues rather than supply.

I mean, its great they somehow got more stock now, but people are already talking about the 2nd gen.

If Apple really wanted to, they could have made the launch a lot smoother.

 

[bbeagle]

Enjoy your watch. How did you ever get along without it?

I got along fine without keyless entry cars, but they make my life better too. And I'd rather not go back to cars with keys.

It's hard to accept that something new that someone never had before makes someone's life better? Why?

 

[Brien]

You miss the point. The whole idea of the Apple Watch was exclusivity/hipster-fashion cred, pushing Apple's already widely accepted cool factor to the next level, by creating an almost entirely superfluous luxury/lifestyle product/product category and making the world mad for it. If one can go into Best Buy and purchase one, without an appointment, without special handling, without being taken into a cordoned-off VIP area, even if only the Sport model, the appeal of the higher-end models is immediately diluted. You haven't been paying attention, but, on the other hand, why should you have (or anyone, really)?. Tim Cook (and Apple) will, in time, come to regret this little exercise in untrammeled ego. We are Apple, We can do anything, and make you love it.
This is an important mis-step for Apple, IMHO, and---as much as I hate to invoke this---would never have happened under SJ's reign.
But of course we have the car coming. Wow, it just gets better and better.

I love how every thread about the Watch on this forum derails into something else. Thanks.

 

[maxsix]

Living in a pecunious area of California, Apple's choice to feature products in Best Buy is rather questionable. The stores aren't very clean, nor are they nicely merchandised.

Being in the big box environment they are cast in a rather poor light. Giving how strong Apple sales were prior to their marriage to Best Buy, it does seem like Apples greed and hunger for more money caused this dodgy decision.

 

[mrcobra92]

How about Best Buy quit dragging their feet with EMV and Apple Pay? I will return to their stores when it's been enabled.

 

[Ron Johnson]

Oh come on. Even the iPhone wasn't really worth owning until the App Store came out.

Pretty much every Apple product needs a year or two before it actually gets good.

So you're saying that you "don't get" why we're treating the watch the exact same way that every other first-gen Apple product is treated?

What's confusing about that? Why should the watch be any different?

What would the watch need to "get good"? The iphone was a way better smartphone before the app store, the app store just allowed even more functionality. So it was still worth owning because it was a better device as is than what was available at the time. What is not clear is how the watch may or may not has the same product cycle as an iphone and ipad which is every year, it could very well and more likely be updated at a less frequent pace than that. People who are waiting for gen2 expect some drastic changes to come to the apple watch, but they have no idea what that may be or what they really want the watch to have in the first place.

 

[Ron Johnson]

Having owned 2 and returning them, my biggest gripe was that the iPhone did everything better, easier and with better accessibility .

My biggest frustration was not being to glance at my watch to see the time, I either had to tap it or swing my arm to wake it, so it failed at the most basic of watch features.

Things I would change, GPS, while I do not see it as a watch replacement, I do see it as a exercise accessory, but not until I can leave my phone at home. Right now I am using a Microsoft band due to the fact that is a superior exercise accessory, I wanted to keep the Apple watch, but it was inferior.

Rightfully so the iphone should do them better. I do have the same issue reading time as you have pointed out and that can definitely be frustrating, however it is really a compromise that is needed for battery life. Also not much different than having to pull your phone out for the time.

GPS should be added definitely, however the leaving the phone at home thing will never happen. Other than going for a run. Why? once everyone finds out they need to pay an extra 15$+ with their carrier to add it as a device then know one will buy it. Fitness does need work on the watch in that aspect, for something competing with all the exersize accessories out there it should be better in that aspect.

 

[Brien]

What would the watch need to "get good"? The iphone was a way better smartphone before the app store, the app store just allowed even more functionality. So it was still worth owning because it was a better device as is than what was available at the time. What is not clear is how the watch may or may not has the same product cycle as an iphone and ipad which is every year, it could very well and more likely be updated at a less frequent pace than that. People who are waiting for gen2 expect some drastic changes to come to the apple watch, but they have no idea what that may be or what they really want the watch to have in the first place.

When the rumors about Gen2 having FaceTime and some other spec bumps started appearing, I said 'eh, whatever' and bought a Watch.

Even if they do update it yearly, my guess is it's going to be rather slow incremental upgrades.

 

[Ron Johnson]

You missed my point on so many levels.

you missed mine as well. Why does best buy sell apple stuff even with their terrible service and lack of availability of employees? Because of marketing and exposure to the products and the lack of apple stores where there are best buys. That is why. Doesn't leave apple with much of a choice if they want to sell products.

 

[Ron Johnson]

When the rumors about Gen2 having FaceTime and some other spec bumps started appearing, I said 'eh, whatever' and bought a Watch.

Even if they do update it yearly, my guess is it's going to be rather slow incremental upgrades.

EXACTLY.

maybe they add a gps, or they have a faster processor. Its not an iphone or a mac, which some people cannot wrap their heads around. It doesn't need the same updates as fast as the other products. Who would want to facetime on an apple watch anyway? it most likely would have a 420p camera if it did. A gps would be nice for the runners out there and more apps which will come in time.

 

[Ron Johnson]

You're right I don't need my phone that's why I buy cheap ones.

This was in reference to not needing the regular 300$ watch. But your right, sometimes a cheap phone is a better option for some people.

 

[Brien]

EXACTLY.

maybe they add a gps, or they have a faster processor. Its not an iphone or a mac, which some people cannot wrap their heads around. It doesn't need the same updates as fast as the other products. Who would want to facetime on an apple watch anyway? it most likely would have a 420p camera if it did. A gps would be nice for the runners out there and more apps which will come in time.

Yep, I think people are seeing this device as a mini-iPhone instead of a watch + fitbit + other stuff, and judging it unfairly. It's a new product category, I don't think even Apple knows what it can do yet.

I hope I'm wrong however and the Apple Watch 2 (or 3) is amazing and makes mine look like a dinosaur - because everyone will benefit. Although my wallet wouldn't.