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Because we don't.

why not? its a different computer. why do we have a macbook air section? the problems and questions about the retina have nothing to do, at all, with the classic. its not even the same body, drives or ram.
 
why not? its a different computer. why do we have a macbook air section? the problems and questions about the retina have nothing to do, at all, with the classic. its not even the same body, drives or ram.
Because it really isn't.
We've been discussing the feedback in this thread and the different options for possible changes, but at this point we've decided that there won't be a separate rMBP sub-forum.

We've always lumped together the different models of a model line, even though different models have different characteristics (e.g., 13" vs. 15" vs. 17", SSD vs. hard drive, older process vs. newer processor, Mini Display Port vs. Thunderbolt, etc.). The Retina MacBook Pro is the latest model in its line.

We encourage users to put words like cMBP and rMBP in thread titles when they are starting a model-specific discussion. As always, it's a good idea to make thread titles specific and descriptive. That's the best way to help other users spot the threads they are interested in and skip the threads they are not interested in.
The display is the only differentiation between the "older" MBPs and the "new" MBP.

If you don't like it, feel free to peruse the linked thread and tell the gods how you feel.
 
Why is it a different computer? It's clearly named the MacBook Pro with Retina Display.

how is it different from the classic?

Screen, Ram, Drive, Body, Cooling system, servicing

I would think people looking for specific answers (reason why theyre here in the first place) might appreciate a section where they can find answers. example: A retina macbook pro cannot upgrade ram, ever. so why look through posts about "i swapped out my ram and now i found cheaper sticks elsewhere"..

anyway
 
The display is the only differentiation between the "older" MBPs and the "new" MBP.

If you don't like it, feel free to peruse the linked thread and tell the gods how you feel.

You may wish to brush up on your facts before opening your mouth. The rMBP has a completely different motherboard, vastly improved cooling system, thinner and lighter physical design (.2" thinner and 1 lb lighter), next-gen MagSafe 2 power connector, 50% higher capacity battery, GPU runs at 20% faster clock speeds than non-Retina model, 16 GB RAM officially supported by Apple (vs 8 GB for non-Retina), and of course the Retina Display. That's just what I remember off the top of my head.

Clearly the differences are more than just the screen.
 
You may wish to brush up on your facts before opening your mouth. The rMBP has a completely different motherboard, vastly improved cooling system, thinner and lighter physical design (.2" thinner and 1 lb lighter), next-gen MagSafe 2 power connector, 50% higher capacity battery, GPU runs at 20% faster clock speeds than non-Retina model, 16 GB RAM officially supported by Apple (vs 8 GB for non-Retina), and of course the Retina Display. That's just what I remember off the top of my head.
How about a NO? The differences between the old MBP and the MBPR do not justify a new subforum just for MBPR threads.

Also, some of your claims are too funny:

"(vs 8 GB for non-Retina)" - both early- and late-2011 MBPs, and mid-2012 MBPs can use 16GB RAM, despite Apple claiming they only support 8GB
"next-gen MagSafe 2 power connector" - mid-2012 MBAs have that too, why aren't there any calls for a new subforum just for the updated Airs?

Fail harder.
 
How about a NO? The differences between the old MBP and the MBPR do not justify a new subforum just for MBPR threads.

Also, some of your claims are too funny:

"(vs 8 GB for non-Retina)" - both early- and late-2011 MBPs, and mid-2012 MBPs can use 16GB RAM, despite Apple claiming they only support 8GB
"next-gen MagSafe 2 power connector" - mid-2012 MBAs have that too, why aren't there any calls for a new subforum just for the updated Airs?

Fail harder.

You are laughable. You specifically said this:

jcpb said:
The display is the only differentiation between the "older" MBPs and the "new" MBP.

Two people countered your point and showed it to be wrong. Flipnap's post wasn't a direct response to you, but it did show your statement to be incorrect.

It is you sir who has failed.
 
How about a NO? The differences between the old MBP and the MBPR do not justify a new subforum just for MBPR threads.

Also, some of your claims are too funny:

"(vs 8 GB for non-Retina)" - both early- and late-2011 MBPs, and mid-2012 MBPs can use 16GB RAM, despite Apple claiming they only support 8GB
"next-gen MagSafe 2 power connector" - mid-2012 MBAs have that too, why aren't there any calls for a new subforum just for the updated Airs?

Fail harder.

It helps if you read - are you that challenged? I never said we need another subforum. I was correcting your misinformation about the display being the only difference between the retina and non-retina model. Apparently instead of admitting your mistake, you double down on criticism based on a false assumption. You've got some serious emotional issues.
 
I finally got a chance to play with one at Best Buy--I was very impressed--especially with photos--I need a new laptop and am pretty sure this is going to be the one but I want to head to the Orlando store to take a look. Glad you are enjoying your purchase!:)
 
why not? its a different computer. why do we have a macbook air section? the problems and questions about the retina have nothing to do, at all, with the classic. its not even the same body, drives or ram.
We've been discussing the feedback in this thread and the different options for possible changes, but at this point we've decided that there won't be a separate rMBP sub-forum.

We've always lumped together the different models of a model line, even though different models have different characteristics (e.g., 13" vs. 15" vs. 17", SSD vs. hard drive, older process vs. newer processor, Mini Display Port vs. Thunderbolt, etc.). The Retina MacBook Pro is the latest model in its line.

We encourage users to put words like cMBP and rMBP in thread titles when they are starting a model-specific discussion. As always, it's a good idea to make thread titles specific and descriptive. That's the best way to help other users spot the threads they are interested in and skip the threads they are not interested in.
From: Does it make sense to have a "Retina MacBook Pro" sub forum?
 
not to promote spam, but it looks like gazelle.com offers pretty good prices for used Macs. I'm thinking about selling my MBP mid 2009 13" to them.
 
sorry, didnt mean to hijack the thread. i still dont get it. the rmbp is a next gen notebook that is dramatically different from the years of iterations of other mbp's. why there isnt a new subforum is strange. there are many things that are COMPLETELY different between the two, so much so that even apple categorizes it as a different system.. but like i said, sorry for the hijack. I wont beat a dead horse if thats the decision, i just dont get ANYONE not seeing that the rmbp is an almost completely different computer, and in my eyes is actually closer to being a "super air" than it is to the classic. just me i guess..

over and out...
 
there are many things that are COMPLETELY different between the two, so much so that even apple categorizes it as a different system..
No, they don't. It's still a MacBook Pro.
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I agree, ever since I got my Image Retaining LG Screen swapped for a bright [ no yellow or pink tint ] and extra crisp Samsung screen, I am absolutely loving this new iteration of the MBP!!

Funny because I've actually preferred LG over Samsung!

Oh well.. And, while I do see some major differences between the cMBP and rMBP, I don't really care for a separate sub-forum for the Retina. Being in the same section gives me a chance to peek and read about the cMBPs too! :D
 
sorry, didnt mean to hijack the thread. i still dont get it. the rmbp is a next gen notebook that is dramatically different from the years of iterations of other mbp's. why there isnt a new subforum is strange. there are many things that are COMPLETELY different between the two, so much so that even apple categorizes it as a different system.. but like i said, sorry for the hijack. I wont beat a dead horse if thats the decision, i just dont get ANYONE not seeing that the rmbp is an almost completely different computer, and in my eyes is actually closer to being a "super air" than it is to the classic. just me i guess..

over and out...
Another user already tried that.

Needless to say, the mods disagree with you...
 
When I get a working one, I'll be sure to agree with the OP on this one!

For now though I'm stuck with a rickety old one with a broken lid as well as a tendency to scream at me whenever I do something highly intensive such as.... opening a safari window :(
 
I agree. Although my rMBP model is not perfect (i'm going through applecare to fix that), Ive been buying MBPs every 3 years since they first debuted in 2006, this is my 3rd one. Certainly the best, the worst one being the 2009 unibody (the upgrade was negligible over the 2006 model and mine was poorly built). This retina 2012 model is the best by far. I do however wish the price would have been a bit lower.
 
Better not say anything positive about the Retina MacBook Pro, as the non-Retina owners will surely come in here to tell us that our new laptops are inferior because we don't have a built-in ethernet port; that being thinner and lighter is immaterial (I guess someone who buys an Air is an... air head?); that we are doomed with 16 GB of soldered memory when the non-Retina might potentially someday hypothetically but without any real evidence support 32 GB of RAM IF such modules one day hypothetically hit the market in a compatible format even though Apple states clearly that it only officially supports up to 8 GB in the non-Retina; that you can't possibly live without a removable hard drive or a superdrive in the days of fast SSD drives, Thunderbolt external RAID arrays, and thumb drives that have made CDs obsolete.

Different strokes for different folks. The rMBP appeals to those who want all of the performance in a lighter and thinner package. I have no qualms about giving up an ethernet port and superdrive - I can't remember the last time I needed a superdrive for anything and I'm perfectly content with wireless speeds. When I take my rMBP to the office and need to dump a lot of files onto the server, I'll attach the ethernet adapter and I'm on my way. Although for what I do, 400 Mb/s wireless speeds are more than adequate.
 
Better not say anything positive about the Retina MacBook Pro, as the non-Retina owners will surely come in here to tell us that our new laptops are inferior ...
Actually, I'm seeing a lot of the reverse happening in this thread, as well as others, including from you.
Different strokes for different folks.
That's what I was trying to tell you earlier, but you didn't appear to want to hear it.
 
Say, didn't you kick the bucket?

Perhaps physically, but my mind lives on!

In all honesty though, I admired that man, and will never forget the two hours I spent drinking bourbon with him and listening to his stories at his home in the Hollywood Hills.
 
wont be so great when that ssd fails(and it will) you will have to send it off instead of fixing it yourself.



it doesnt bother about no ODD or ehternet port, those, i rarely use on PC, the soldered in ram and drive is what kills it for me. granted if I get a 8gb model I may not need to do a ram upgrade I can kinda go along with that.
 
wont be so great when that ssd fails(and it will) you will have to send it off instead of fixing it yourself
It's very likely that companies will offer aftermarket SSDs, like OWC is doing for the MBA.
 
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