Best iPhone X gimbal?

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  1. iBrooker macrumors 6502

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    Have any iPhone X specific gimbals been announced yet? Is the DJI OSMO still the best one?
     
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    I don't know about specific, but I've been using the Smooth Q, very decent for its price. Especially they also have an app you can use to remote control the gimbal.
     
  3. aawil macrumors 6502a

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    I have the smooth q as well. For the price it’s tough to beat
     
  4. importraverxx macrumors regular

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    I use the Osmo. The X size is perfect for it. The 7 plus was a bit too big and heavy
     
  5. noah82 macrumors 6502a

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    I have a Smooth Q that I bought for taking video of the 1 year old. Works great!
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    I'm actually wondering with optical image stabilization on the camera if I'll need to use the gimbal nearly as often.
     
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    I think I'm going to try a smooth Q. I've heard nothing but great things about it.
     
  7. iBrooker thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Thanks all, what's the situation with adding a microphone to the rig or one that clips on?
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    Not seen it yet...

     
  8. cosmic68 macrumors 6502

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    Do your research first before shelling out cash. I have the Osmo Mobile and while it’s a great bit of kit, if your phone has OIS-it creates these unsightly micro jitters and strange video warps if you walk too fast with it (defeating the purpose a bit).
    Google Osmo/OIS. Lots of unhappy customers. On DJI forum, there’s an outcry about it.

    I’ve been using my old iPhone 6 Plus with it with no problems as it doesn’t have OIS, but upgrade today to iPhone X so curious to see the results.

    A new startup called Flowmotion reckon they’ve cracked it with their algorithms, but product not out yet.
     
  9. eyeseeyou macrumors 68000

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    I’ve seen many reviews say that the smooth q is actually better not to mention cheaper.
     
  10. J D A macrumors member

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    Smh this is why you disable OIS before shooting with a gimbal there is 0 point to shooting with OIS enabled if you have a gimbal. This is all on those users.

    I wouldn't let anyone using OIS + a gimbal influence your decision to buy one or the other, js.
     
  11. cosmic68, Nov 4, 2017
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    Ha! Shows what little you know. YOU CANT DISABLE OIS. It’s a hardware issue. The OIS is enabled by default on the iPhone 6s+ and iPhone 7 and 7+, 8/8+ and iPhone 10. Apple doesn't allow it to be disabled currently. Even apps like FiLMiC Pro can't fully disable it, You can only turn off the cinematic stabilisation setting that Apple allow access to. You are talking about the cinematic stabilisation not the OIS. Digital stabilisation does not cause the problems. Optical does.

    Please research before spreading misinformation, it really annoys me when people wade in with their convictions, but actually don’t know what they’re talking about, but for your convenience, here’s a link so you can get educated. It’s from the DJI website and there’s a ton of threads in there explaining the problem and how there’s no work around because, you can’t turn off OIS.

    So to the OP, please don’t place any weight on the advice of someone who doesn’t know the difference between digital image stabilisation and OIS. iPhone have both, but only one can be turned off. It’s the OIS that causes the issues.

    https://forum.dji.com/thread-64181-6-1.html
     
  12. acctman macrumors 65816

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    DJI OSMO is the better gimbal ... you have to also consider build quality. If the Smooth fell i'd be worried if it would still work
     
  13. Anandc macrumors regular

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    You are absolutely correct.

    I have been a victim and believe me you don't want to buy DJI OSMO Gimbal.

    First of all, DJI OSMO Mobile does not support any iPhone that have OIS. OIS is a hardware issue and it cannot be disabled. DJI says it supports iPhones that have OIS but it's clearly misleading. I had iPhone 7 Plus and I had calibrated perfectly, purchased apps like Filmic Pro & ProCam, but nothing worked. There are jitters and it's not smooth. When I sold it to someone, he had Samsung Galaxy 8 and boy it was working perfect. I was just surprised that so much of difference between Galaxy 8 vs iPhone 7+ but then it was clear that the issue was the OIS.

    Now I don't know any other Gimbal who can handle the OIS. I have read a lot about this why OIS is a problem? it comes out that the iPhone OIS clashes with the Gimbal Stabilisation and that causes the jitters. So I really doubt any Gimbal can really support any iPhones that has inbuilt OIS.

    But if anybody has used and they have first hand experience with no problems at all then you can still think over it. But do your research before buying Gimbal for iPhones. It's just not meant to be.

    Luckily I sold and got a good price back again but I was very disappointed as I really thought the video recording on iPhones are superb. But I saw iPhone X yesterday and I tried video recording and I was very impressed. Having OIS for both the lenses has given a great stability to the video recorded. I guess one should first try their skills without the Gimbal and if it still doesn't satisfy, then one can research which one really works the best for iPhone X
     
  14. cosmic68 macrumors 6502

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    Yes it’s such a shame. Check out Flowmotion. They claim to have worked an algorithm that irons out the OIS problem, but ill believe it when I see it (it’s not been released yet).
     
  15. Anandc macrumors regular

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    Exactly, I'll believe when I see it. I've already mislead once by such a big company like DJI
     
  16. iBrooker thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Thanks for all the info @everyone

    I am curious about this too as I will be using the X - please come back and tell us how it works out.
     
  17. cosmic68 macrumors 6502

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    I will do. I got my iPhone X yesterday. Give me a couple of days and I’ll report back here.
     
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    Welp. You're right. I always thought Filmic completely disabled OIS. huh
     
  20. cosmic68 macrumors 6502

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    No problem. Sorry if I came over douchy. I’m annoyed that I wasted my money on this gimbal.

    iBrooker/OP, I tried out the Osmo as promised with iPhone X. It still produces a lot of jitter. You can minimise it why walking really, REALLY slowly, but that defeats the purpose. I would avoid buying one...unless you’re being it off me, lol.

    Peace out ✌️
     
  21. iBrooker thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Hey I think I might have found a solution...

    youtu.be/7KowVCKitcc?t=49s

    A ProCam upgrade that disables OIS :D

    Give it a try and let us know how it goes :p
     
  22. avonord macrumors regular

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    This “no way to disable OIS” thing is all over the Internet. But I found this:

    https://developer.apple.com/library...e/iOSDeviceCompatibility/Cameras/Cameras.html

    Look under the optical image stabilization section. This particular API available to developers had been available since iOS 8.

    https://developer.apple.com/documen...ction/1620484-preferredvideostabilizationmode

    I would like to think that Apple documentation is more accurate than chatters in forums.

    Now, I did see in some forums and YouTube comments (of below video) that if you disable auto focus, the jitter goes away. So, this may have something to do with iphone’s implementation of auto focus?



    Just a disclaimer - I don’t know what I’m talking about. I’m just quoting sources.
     
  23. Daremo macrumors 68000

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    Does it REALLY disable OIS? I thought it was hardware, and impossible to disable...
     
  24. iBrooker thread starter macrumors 6502

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    You can turn it off for cameras like the GH5, so don't see why it wouldn't be possible for the iPhone.
     
  25. cap7ainclu7ch macrumors regular

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    I downloaded procam and it has a setting to turn off IS and it clearly makes a huge difference, so it appears to be working. Highly recommended for gimbal work.
     

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