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does it add the ability to shuffle all by artist, or by genre? Two features glaringly missing in 8.4.0

Thank god I thought I was the only one complaining about this or the stupid that doesn't know how it's done!

Those are not missing and never have been missing in the new music app.

To shuffle an artist (while in the artist list view where you see all the artists) tap the icon to the left of the artist you want to shuffle. It starts playing all songs by that artist. Then pull up the full screen player (large art at top and controls at bottom) and select the shuffle button at the bottom.

Genre is exactly the same. Tap the icon left of the genre name while in genre list view.

(Also same for albums)
 
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Actually it WILL store each track if you select "make available offline" from the 3 dots next to and album. It does not in fact show the little icon next to each track like it should unless you select them all individually. But trust me they are downloaded. It's a bug.

That's not a bug. The icon appears on the album art top right corner when you select a whole album for offline.

It's so that if you decide you only like a couple songs off that album you can tap those songs and make them offline individually (giving the song the little icon) and then tap the album to remove all the rest you don't like with one button. (Same goes for playlists.) Offline has two layers so you can do that easier without having to delete one by one the songs you don't like from albums/playlists, keeping what you like and removing everything else.

Apple really needs to come out with a full manual, because there is so much misconception about the music app and Apple music flying around. (Between this and not knowing how to shuffle artists, I see so many complaints.)
 
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Except that for some of us, when you actually go offline, the tracks disappear.
This happens on iOS 9 beta 3 too. You can tap on Make Available Offline on the top of the playlist, but it will not save them. You need to choose each individual track. As soon as i turn on Airplane Mode, the tracks disappear.
 
That's not a bug. The icon appears on the album art top right corner when you select a whole album for offline.

It's so that if you decide you only like a couple songs off that album you can tap those songs and make them offline individually (giving the song the little icon) and then tap the album to remove all the rest you don't like with one button. (Same goes for playlists.) Offline has two layers so you can do that easier without having to delete one by one the songs you don't like from albums/playlists, keeping what you like and removing everything else.

Apple really needs to come out with a full manual, because there is so much misconception about the music app and Apple music flying around. (Between this and not knowing how to shuffle artists, I see so many complaints.)
So why were all of my tracks that I already had downloaded before I upgraded to 8.4 marked with the icons next to each track after the upgrade?

It seems to me the icon just means the song is available offline. That makes the most sense to me. How do you know it's for what you think it is? Or is that just speculation?
 
So why were all of my tracks that I already had downloaded before I upgraded to 8.4 marked with the icons next to each track after the upgrade?

It seems to me the icon just means the song is available offline. That makes the most sense to me. How do you know it's for what you think it is? Or is that just speculation?

Because those songs weren't added through Apple Music by making the whole album available for offline. They were synced to your phone prior to enabling IML.

You can test it. But here are some images. (Image 1 is the album with the icon in the art. Images 2 is selecting 4 songs at random to "keep". Image 3 is removing the rest of the album by selecting remove downloads on the album option.

This of course is with "show music available offline" enabled.
 

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Apple really needs to come out with a full manual, because there is so much misconception about the music app and Apple music flying around. (Between this and not knowing how to shuffle artists, I see so many complaints.)
I think instead of bothering with a long manual that nobody is going to read, Apple should just stick to established and intuitive design principles. Like including a shuffle all button at the top of the album, genre, and artist views. Right now it's like an easter egg hunt.
 
I think instead of bothering with a long manual that nobody is going to read, Apple should just stick to established and intuitive design principles. Like including a shuffle all button at the top of the album, genre, and artist views. Right now it's like an easter egg hunt.

I agree things are pretty hidden. But once you know it's a bit easier. Taking shuffle as an example. If the shuffle all for an artist was at the top of the list within the artist (like you're suggesting.) You would have to find the artist, select the artist and then tap shuffle. The way it is now, you only have to find the artist and tap the icon to its left (if you previously had shuffle enabled in the full screen player it remembers and stays on shuffle.) This saves the step of having to click into the artist and then shuffle (and further saves the step of you wished to shuffle just one album of having to select the artist and then the specific album then shuffle.)
 
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I agree things are pretty hidden. But once you know it's a bit easier. Taking shuffle as an example. If the shuffle all for an artist was at the top of the list within the artist (like you're suggesting.) You would have to find the artist, select the artist and then tap shuffle. The way it is now, you only have to find the artist and tap the icon to its left (if you previously had shuffle enabled in the full screen player it remembers and stays on shuffle.) this saves the step of having to click into the artist. (and further saves the step of you wished to shuffle just one album of having to select the artist and then the specific album then shuffle.)
I didn't think about it that way. You have a good point that it saves a click. Thank you for pointing that out.

I'm not 100% sure, but don't you have to click on the mini player, then on shuffle, to get it to shuffle this way? Cause right now, if you click the album art, it just goes in alphabetical or track order, doesn't it? I don't usually play individual albums, I usually like to shuffle all by genre.
 
I didn't think about it that way. You have a good point that it saves a click. Thank you for pointing that out.

I'm not 100% sure, but don't you have to click on the mini player, then on shuffle, to get it to shuffle this way? Cause right now, if you click the album art, it just goes in alphabetical or track order, doesn't it? I don't usually play individual albums, I usually like to shuffle all by genre.

I believe it plays all starting from the top album in your list for that artist and works its way down without shuffle on.

Yes, you would have to pull up the mini player to see the full screen player and select shuffle. (But if you always and only use shuffle, you only need to do that once because it remembers that setting until you turn it off.)
 
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Considering this is an x.x.1 release, visible / noticeable changes will be few and far between. Not a surprise at all.

Noticeable changes would be fixing the bugs that cause the music app to crash or be horribly slow on devices, slow wake time, iPad rotation etc. (many other threads on this). That what we would like to know about.
 
Noticeable changes would be fixing the bugs that cause the music app to crash or be horribly slow on devices, slow wake time, iPad rotation etc. (many other threads on this). That what we would like to know about.

I personally wasn't experiencing any issues on my iPhone 6 so I haven't noticed anything so far. Right now I'm on 9.0b3 on my Air 2 so I can't help there. Most people weren't experiencing many issues from what I remember.
 
Am I going crazy or are these share sheet icons new?
 

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I personally wasn't experiencing any issues on my iPhone 6 so I haven't noticed anything so far. Right now I'm on 9.0b3 on my Air 2 so I can't help there. Most people weren't experiencing many issues from what I remember.

Are you seeing the slow wake up delay on beta 3?

Hope they fix this in 8.4.1.
 
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