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Bill Gates on iPad: "It's a Nice Reader, But..."
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Interesting but I think ultimately wrong.
As to the price it isn't a good value yet. That mostly due to unknowns and a paltry amount of flash. Apple needs to disclose more info and they need to up the installed flash before shipping.
The OS is built upon currently shipping versions of iPhone OS what did you expect? We will only know the tablets full feature set once new info about the next generation of iPhone OS comes out.
Dave
If you are that good you should become an analyst. Good money to be had there.
That is certainly true but I don't think the full story of iPad has been written yet. It does have the potential to be gold though.
Actually I could see many using it as a primary computer. The need for a syncing machine running iTunes is an issue but I think Apple did this on purpose. The reason being it provides an effective way to backup the machine and it reduces the need to support additional hardware.
As to the price it isn't a good value yet. That mostly due to unknowns and a paltry amount of flash. Apple needs to disclose more info and they need to up the installed flash before shipping.
The web support is fine and it wasn't designed to write War & Peace on.
iPhone OS multitasks just fine thank you. Be specific here if you mean no third party user app multi tasking. Notabably with the current OS and our knowledge of it.
The OS is built upon currently shipping versions of iPhone OS what did you expect? We will only know the tablets full feature set once new info about the next generation of iPhone OS comes out.
Dave
Re-post of mine from another thread -
I had a thought as I was drifting off to sleep last night about the Ipad and it's (known) OS and how smart it is to go that route at launch. The thing about this device is that it's a culture changer. THAT is the #1 reason it is so polarizing in my book. It's not that it is (or isn't) a device for the average MacRumors reader/ poster. It's that it isn't a device ONLY for you. It's for everyone.
So at launch Apple rolls out a device that, as SJ remarked during the Keynote, millions of people around the world intuitively know how to operate right out of the box. And if that's all you need it for (emailing, text files, video watching) then you are a happy camper who (hopefully) never needs to upgrade. THEN, a few months later Apple rolls out OS 4.0 (or whatever) for the Ipad, rich with advanced features such as multitasking etc that are of interest to more advanced users.
How much sense does this make? Allow basic users to become advanced users when THEY are ready to do so instead of forcing complexity on them just to send an email.
And then I slept like a baby.
Dave
End Re-post
I had a thought as I was drifting off to sleep last night about the Ipad and it's (known) OS and how smart it is to go that route at launch. The thing about this device is that it's a culture changer. THAT is the #1 reason it is so polarizing in my book. It's not that it is (or isn't) a device for the average MacRumors reader/ poster. It's that it isn't a device ONLY for you. It's for everyone.
So at launch Apple rolls out a device that, as SJ remarked during the Keynote, millions of people around the world intuitively know how to operate right out of the box. And if that's all you need it for (emailing, text files, video watching) then you are a happy camper who (hopefully) never needs to upgrade. THEN, a few months later Apple rolls out OS 4.0 (or whatever) for the Ipad, rich with advanced features such as multitasking etc that are of interest to more advanced users.
How much sense does this make? Allow basic users to become advanced users when THEY are ready to do so instead of forcing complexity on them just to send an email.
And then I slept like a baby.
Dave
End Re-post
I'd like to see this addressed somehow. The popular notion that the iPad would be great for "old people" overlooks the fact that it would force said people to maintain two separate machines with different OSes instead of just one. This scenario makes little sense to me.
However, I do like the idea of iPad not only as primary computer but as *only* computer. To accomplish this, we'd need one (or both) of at least two possible solutions:
1) Fully cloud-enabled iPad. This includes, at minimum, iTunes library management/synching, software upgrades, and backups. All these could be addressed, with software upgrades being the most dicey and requiring the greatest care to avoid bricking the unit. This has been solved before, though, so should certainly be doable.
2) Time Capsule or perhaps simply Airport Express with iPad support. This means a pseudo iTunes client that you can manage from the iPad. While we're at it, put an Airport configuration utility into the iPad, accessible either through a special cable between docking connector and AE. That way you could buy the device with an iPad, and have everything you need to be up and running.
I wonder if Apple will pursue anything like this?
Not just a big IPOD
I dont understand why everyone is bashing the IPAD.
1st of all, nobody has even played with it. There is a MIGHTY MAGICAL big difference in screen real estate here. That being so, there is a lot more room for code, and gestures.
2nd - saying the IPAD, is just a big IPOD is pretty ignorant. Thats along the lines of saying - I have one of those new smart cars( real tiny ones) and the fact that anyone ever built a bigger car with all wheel drive is stupid because it doesnt do anything new. Its just like a giant smart car. NO @$$ heads... Its so much more capable.
by the way - all this multi-tasking nonsense. My father went from an INSTINCT , to the palm pre because of multi-tasking, WHICH SUCKED battery life and he hated it. to an HTC Hero, which he hates and is finally coming to get an iphone because his Sprint retailer plan is finally up... His phones lag, slow down, dont function... THE ONLY thing that he uses multi-tasking for is Pandora - and you know what...I believe in my oppinion thats what most people want to do... Because battery life is important... my dad has 3 battery... THATS STUPID...
I dont understand why everyone is bashing the IPAD.
1st of all, nobody has even played with it. There is a MIGHTY MAGICAL big difference in screen real estate here. That being so, there is a lot more room for code, and gestures.
2nd - saying the IPAD, is just a big IPOD is pretty ignorant. Thats along the lines of saying - I have one of those new smart cars( real tiny ones) and the fact that anyone ever built a bigger car with all wheel drive is stupid because it doesnt do anything new. Its just like a giant smart car. NO @$$ heads... Its so much more capable.
by the way - all this multi-tasking nonsense. My father went from an INSTINCT , to the palm pre because of multi-tasking, WHICH SUCKED battery life and he hated it. to an HTC Hero, which he hates and is finally coming to get an iphone because his Sprint retailer plan is finally up... His phones lag, slow down, dont function... THE ONLY thing that he uses multi-tasking for is Pandora - and you know what...I believe in my oppinion thats what most people want to do... Because battery life is important... my dad has 3 battery... THATS STUPID...
I'm here mostly reading, reinforcing my low opinion of discourse and humanity. Why bother typing? Facts and reason don't have much effect here.
I could have easily wasted the same half-hour of my life with an iPad, in more comfort.
Bill Gates doesn't like it?
Who would have thought that?
So using my Nintendo DS stylus won't work with an iPad will it?
Why am I not surprised with this "opinion"
I agree with Mr. Gates
You all act like the man who is one of the wealthiest in the world doesn't know what he is talking about in a field that he essentially lauched. Kinda shocking really
Puh-lease. What did Gates "launch" exactly? DOS? (Purchased.) Windows? (Mac clone.) Word? (WordPerfect was first.) PowerPoint? (Purchased.) Windows Mobile? (See Palm. See Newton.) Zune? (LOL!) The list goes on and on. And on.
This guy has never seen a clear "Road Ahead." He's always been following someone else's taillights. He simply waits for them to come to a stop sign and then he runs them over.
Hey, it's put billions in his bank account, but let's not be silly enough to call him a tech innovator.
You're acting like the field that he launched is the same one that the iPad is meant for.
Kinda shocking, really, this tunnel vision...but not surprising.
Bill Gates is a smart guy. I'd trust him on a lot of stuff. They get function, and they get it really well, but one thing MS has always had a hard time with is form.
Admittedly, in general, the iPad's functionality doesn't bring that much new. But the iPad is an acknowledgement that multitouch surfaces could be all the rage. It's a beautiful interface and with that much more room to play with, the UI can really shine in a way that's currently limited on the iPhone.
MS's surface was a great idea, it was just too big and awkward, and too expensive. The iPad is cheap enough, and just the right size. It's amazing to me that they don't see the potential in this thing.
Admittedly, in general, the iPad's functionality doesn't bring that much new. But the iPad is an acknowledgement that multitouch surfaces could be all the rage. It's a beautiful interface and with that much more room to play with, the UI can really shine in a way that's currently limited on the iPhone.
MS's surface was a great idea, it was just too big and awkward, and too expensive. The iPad is cheap enough, and just the right size. It's amazing to me that they don't see the potential in this thing.
What he launched? It's called licensing software
He lauched essentially computers for the mainstream with mainstream os's and productivity sw
Without personal computers, there would be no items like the ipad
Kinda shocking how you can't see the connection really...but not surprising
Im not even reading this thread after just quickly glancing over.. naysayers everywhere.
After launch and a few months of seeing what others are doing with the iPad you naysayers, at least a good portion, will undoubtedly remind yourselves of the very constitutions you stated before launch and wonder what all the hoopla and aggravated tones were really all about.
Now on to my reason for even posting in this thread...
Everyone wants to say how its a big iPhone or iPod. But yet Bill Gates himself double talks by stating that, its not like when the iPhone was released OMG, MS didn't aim high enough. Yet on practically the same sentence states how the iPad doesn't impress, WELL which is it, is it a device of its own or is it just a bigger iPhone/iPod?
If its the later.... well shame on you guys for even double talking and not being original with at least some commentary other than that entire naysayer argument of no cam, no phone, no keyboard, no multitask bleh bleh bleh. Rinse Repeat bleh bleh bleh.
Could this also be the reason that even our own "Apple Fanboys" are finding themselves also touting the same repetitive garbage? Just repeating what some other MS fanboy started and not even giving the thing a chance by using reasoning and forethought.
The iPad is so limitless in capabilities, even just with the larger screen, let alone all the software enhancements and perhaps later the hardware that will adorn it.
I talked with a few other naysayers at a Wal Mart and Best Buy today. I mean, do these employees of these super stores forget that they SELL APPLE Products and to sit there and spout of the same crap I hear from all the others naysay this n that, is just showing their meek and discontented attitudes instead of reasoning and well thought out arguments.
No, we can't think of a good argument, just immediately upon hearing the word iPad, begin with the drivel.
Im just tired.. so tired of the thoughtless (repetitive parakeet) minds that fill the internet these days with Tweets that are mere copies of one original thinker and all the other social services on top.. Every one is a reporter and all they do is repeat what the last guy said.
And to Bill, Bill you stuck Windows XP onto a laptop with a flip clam shell display added a stylus with hand writing recognition and it was sooo innovative.. NOT!
But the iPad is innovative, uses its own OS and remember MS and Apple fanboys... the iPhone and iPod Touch both were adopted from the iPad, not the other way around.
So to sit there and say "its just a MaxiPad version of the iPhone or iPod" no, the iPhone or Touch is a mini version of the iPad. The iPad was a concept years off that introduced the technology until larger touch screens were available as well as other infringements that makes the iPad now mainstream and soon to be a household word. Which in essence already is, just with everyone discussing it.
The sad thing is all the bad hype from those that would rather poke about a droid or other non fully functional device than an iPhone/Touch or iPad, has never even used one to know how functional they are.
As for me, I know I will enjoy "all" of my iPad's, yes Im buying more than just one. If I use it even 50% in the way I already do my iPhone, for my business and pleasure, onlookers will be wowed at the ability and tasks Im able to carry out that not even they can do with their netbooks or droids.
If you dont believe me, PM me I will gladly give you a list of things that I already do daily on my iPhone - soon to be iPad and proven that nothing else could match in over all performance and ability within one device.
/End Rant
After launch and a few months of seeing what others are doing with the iPad you naysayers, at least a good portion, will undoubtedly remind yourselves of the very constitutions you stated before launch and wonder what all the hoopla and aggravated tones were really all about.
Now on to my reason for even posting in this thread...
Everyone wants to say how its a big iPhone or iPod. But yet Bill Gates himself double talks by stating that, its not like when the iPhone was released OMG, MS didn't aim high enough. Yet on practically the same sentence states how the iPad doesn't impress, WELL which is it, is it a device of its own or is it just a bigger iPhone/iPod?
If its the later.... well shame on you guys for even double talking and not being original with at least some commentary other than that entire naysayer argument of no cam, no phone, no keyboard, no multitask bleh bleh bleh. Rinse Repeat bleh bleh bleh.
Could this also be the reason that even our own "Apple Fanboys" are finding themselves also touting the same repetitive garbage? Just repeating what some other MS fanboy started and not even giving the thing a chance by using reasoning and forethought.
The iPad is so limitless in capabilities, even just with the larger screen, let alone all the software enhancements and perhaps later the hardware that will adorn it.
I talked with a few other naysayers at a Wal Mart and Best Buy today. I mean, do these employees of these super stores forget that they SELL APPLE Products and to sit there and spout of the same crap I hear from all the others naysay this n that, is just showing their meek and discontented attitudes instead of reasoning and well thought out arguments.
No, we can't think of a good argument, just immediately upon hearing the word iPad, begin with the drivel.
Im just tired.. so tired of the thoughtless (repetitive parakeet) minds that fill the internet these days with Tweets that are mere copies of one original thinker and all the other social services on top.. Every one is a reporter and all they do is repeat what the last guy said.
And to Bill, Bill you stuck Windows XP onto a laptop with a flip clam shell display added a stylus with hand writing recognition and it was sooo innovative.. NOT!
But the iPad is innovative, uses its own OS and remember MS and Apple fanboys... the iPhone and iPod Touch both were adopted from the iPad, not the other way around.
So to sit there and say "its just a MaxiPad version of the iPhone or iPod" no, the iPhone or Touch is a mini version of the iPad. The iPad was a concept years off that introduced the technology until larger touch screens were available as well as other infringements that makes the iPad now mainstream and soon to be a household word. Which in essence already is, just with everyone discussing it.
The sad thing is all the bad hype from those that would rather poke about a droid or other non fully functional device than an iPhone/Touch or iPad, has never even used one to know how functional they are.
As for me, I know I will enjoy "all" of my iPad's, yes Im buying more than just one.
If I use it even 50% in the way I already do my iPhone, for my business and pleasure, onlookers will be wowed at the ability and tasks Im able to carry out that not even they can do with their netbooks or droids.If you dont believe me, PM me I will gladly give you a list of things that I already do daily on my iPhone - soon to be iPad and proven that nothing else could match in over all performance and ability within one device.
/End Rant
Uh, as far as I can tell the only foresight he's ever had was that licensing software to hardware manufacturers was the future, at the time. Absolutely brilliant (even if he didn't actually have that software) but it seems like it was a anomolly rather than smarts
You'd buy an iPad because you liked the Touch but wanted the same, but on a bigger screen and therefore something to replace your netbook.
Why buy a 15" MacBook Pro when you can buy a 17" MacBook Pro? Why buy a 17" MacBook Pro when you can buy a 15" MacBook Pro?
Look at it this way - there's going to become a point when a lot of people have either a Touch or an iPhone. But they both have a great way of working.
That great way of working works so well that it's a no brainer to introduce another device that works the same way, but is different enough to maintian sales.
With Apps being such a driver of sales, Apple would be stupid to do the iPad any other way.
I wouldn't buy one because I have an iPod Touch and an iMac. But there are people out there who don't and that will buy it.
who knows...maybe he was replying to this interview via email on
his secretly owed iPad...hahaha
his secretly owed iPad...hahaha
Yes, and that is what I acknowledge. By him doing that, it created an environment that led to widely used OS's and SW packages. Before that, every hardware had it's own OS, making any OS be mainstream nearly impossible.
By making an OS mainstream, it effectively launched the personal computer age
I am curious why you say this isn't smarts? Seems to be a shining example of forward thinking
Bill thinks 640k
I think this shows how much thought should be put into what Bill Gates says...
http://www.pcworld.com/article/1891...s_next_640k_moment.html/:apple::apple::apple:
I think this shows how much thought should be put into what Bill Gates says...
http://www.pcworld.com/article/1891...s_next_640k_moment.html/:apple::apple::apple:
Dude, you're like all the other plodders that Gates blindsided and passed by. You're defining the market by the product. You're not defining the market by the consumers and how they use it.
Gates is very good on the uses of computers and how they can be used by organizations (i.e., corporations). He didn't create this market (Wozniak and Bricklin were more creators than he was); he exploited it. He's NOT very good with individual users or consumers, and that's where the iPad will probably get most of its audience.
Your tunnel vision is not surprising. You try to keep defining things in terms of how they were used in the past. That's why Gates, Jobs and their kind will eat your lunch for now and in the foreseeable future.
So there you go. That's my take on it....and yeah, I'm that lazy.
p.s. I'm still wishing for a way to connect the iPad to an external monitor though.
Too lazy to even read the accessory list for the iPad then.
Big Itouch
I must say I'm pretty excited to be getting this new device by end of March. I'm glad I never bought a net book and my old laptop needs a replacement.
I cant think of any thing I do on my laptop that I wouldn't be able to do on this ipad. I can live without flash and a cam but those would be nice. Pictures, web surfing, music, reader, movies, games, email, facebook, podcasts, maps, and other odd apps that I enjoy on a larger screen. It should be an awesome device for me.
I must say I'm pretty excited to be getting this new device by end of March. I'm glad I never bought a net book and my old laptop needs a replacement.
I cant think of any thing I do on my laptop that I wouldn't be able to do on this ipad. I can live without flash and a cam but those would be nice. Pictures, web surfing, music, reader, movies, games, email, facebook, podcasts, maps, and other odd apps that I enjoy on a larger screen. It should be an awesome device for me.