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For those of you complaining that the iPad is nothing more than a giant iPod Touch: HOW IS THAT NOT ABSOLUTELY AWESOME??? That is the exact reason this will be so successful.

And I hope Apple never goes to a handwriting interface. Not only will it clutter the interface - and create inconsistencies in apps that call for handwriting, while others bring up a virtual keyboard - but HUMANS can't decipher my handwriting, so I have no expectation that a machine ever will. When I use a keyboard, I ALWAYS know the end result my input is going to make.

I'm glad many of you were not responsible for the creation of this device. Otherwise it would have come out like that car Homer designed for his brother on the Simpsons.
 
Awesome. Bill Gates thinks it needs a built-in physical keyboard. If that isn't a 24K gold plated endorsement of the iPad I don't now what it. OK, well maybe if Steve Ballmer said it was a failed device that would be 3x the endorsement, but you take what you get, right. All these quotes will come back to haunt them on Bing, as usual.
 
MS has an idea, the question is can they bring it to market, what people don't get is that even though the iPad is not the killer hardware, Apple brought it to market and will make it function and over time it will get better.

On MS side they have this idea
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmIgNfp-MdI

but can they actually bring it to market, or are they just another blow hard monolithic Corp. who has no steam and just got lucky it monopolized an industry.

I agree with you completely. The MS Courier is vaporware. It's a conceptual 'idea', not a hardware reality, like the iPad.

Apple gets things done. They might not be the way that some people like it, but you can't argue the success of the iPhone, or iPod Touch now that they're into their 2nd or 3rd years of development.

This is not the Mac Cube people, this is hardware and software based on a tried and true system of success. I for one welcome it. Computing should be simplified for the masses, so that people can get things done!
 
When the iPod Touch came out I got myself over to a store to check it out. I thought then that it was neat, but the screen was too small to really be able to use its internet capabilities. After 5 minutes with the touch I said out loud, "its cool, but I wish the screen were larger." I've looked at netbooks, and felt too cramped with the keyboard.

So, I'm looking forward to the iPad.
 
agreed

I'm trying to figure out how many shades of red your face will be in a few months.

"There's nothing that the iPod does that I say, 'Oh, wow, I don't think we can do that.'" - Bill Gates, September 02, 2004

LOL.

I agree. I feel that Steve Jobs is taking computers and laptops to a different level. This iPad is more then an e-reader. Bill Gates and his virus laden Windows programs can have their opinion then a few years jump on the band wagon with a much crappier version of an ipad years behind. Its to bad nobody can honestly say Windows 7 is alright. Steve Jobs is a visionary in the computer field and Bill Gates is a follower.:apple:
 
lol... I actually just posted on my personal blog about why people need to give iPad a break:

"4 Reasons why people need to chill out and give the iPad a break" - http://bit.ly/cfuRWY

What are your thoughts?
 
late honesty

i like the late honesty he states regarding the iphone.

im not a huge fan of the ipad, but i'm not going to side with bill
 
Hmmm...

I love my PULSE Smartpen... If there were only an App that could allow syncing and management with the 'pad, would I then feel comfortable with taking it to class. But for now... strictly my 'Pro.

*The 'truth will set you free' is so blasphemous in a mac forum... May steve forgive you:cool:

But I am still on the fence until it isn't limited by storage space! Bring on the 'Local Cloud iTunes Services'!
 
It is innovative

1)Obviously Bill isn't going to say "Doh! I wish WE did that! Man, Apple's gonna kill us in innovation and sales!"

2)I think he's partially right...I think the iPad is "nice" but is not innovative in any way...to the non-technical people out there (so 90% of the consumers) it's essentially a larger iPhone or iPod Touch that now supports book reading (mainly due to it's size like the Kindle).

I think Rev 2 or higher of the iPad may offer some compelling reasons to buy, but for me and folks that I talk/hang out with (who do or do not have an iPhone or a Touch) there's nothing super compelling about it or "magical' as Apple calls it.

I disagree that the iPad isn't innovative. It's not where I would like it to be, but the innovative thing about the iPad is that it is making basic "computing" as easy as it should be. We take it for-granted now, but the traditional OSes (M$ and OSX) are way overcomplicated for the average user. In windows you have programs installing junk on your desktop all the time until you have a big mess that doesn't really do anything. On the mac, the applications are buried in the "Finder".

The innovative thing about the iPad is that it the 90-95% of stuff that "average" people do with their computers is just a touch away. There is no waiting for shutdown/startup, there is no worrying about anti-virus/spyware (a huge concern for M$ user especially), there is no navigating multi-level folder structures. If you want to install a program you don't have to hunt all over the internet to find it..just browse the app store. All these concepts don't seem innovative because they were already done with the iPhone...but the innovative thing is that they're going to push general computing to be the same way.

We'll see what Apple has up it's sleeves, however, I wouldn't be surprised if we keep seeing iPhone/iPad innovations "trickle up" to other Apple products instead innovations "trickling down" from Apples most expensive offerings (ex: Mac Pro).

The main problem with the iPad in my view is that it is solely a content consumption device and doesn't have the capability for content creation. However, I really think that the future of computers is to make them more like the iPad and less like the traditional overcomplicated OSes that us geeks grew up with.
 
And I hope Apple never goes to a handwriting interface. Not only will it clutter the interface - and create inconsistencies in apps that call for handwriting, while others bring up a virtual keyboard - but HUMANS can't decipher my handwriting, so I have no expectation that a machine ever will. When I use a keyboard, I ALWAYS know the end result my input is going to make.

You've hit the nail on the head. Handwriting recognition software sucks. The only way it works is if you're writing in Japanese (which I study and teach), because it has to be written in a specific stroke order. English doesn't.

Our society promotes individuality and therefore you can write anyway you want to. I do this myself as I am left-handed and have my own unique way of writing. Japanese society promotes conformity, which has led to a stylized way of writing that works within the parameters of handwriting recognition software. Same thing for audio actually. I'll explain it if you're interested. If not carry on.:)
 
having voice, a stylus, and keyboard...hmmm...and those things have made windows mobile devices a runaway hit?

i agree - if people want those things, get a netbook. ipad's not meant to be another computer, it's an appliance, as many have already said. appliances don't do everything (my stove doesn't wash my clothes)...yet they excel at what they're supposed to do.

some kind of stylus might be useful for, say, drawing apps...but i'm sure there will be more than a few of these ready for the ipad launch. if people want them, they'll be able to find them. no doubt.
 
Bill needs to remember that he is now focused on providing aid to suffering people around the globe.

So I agree, I don't see a large market for the iPad in Darfur. Nor do I see Bill being relevent to any technological motivation other than trying to keep the iPad out of class rooms as a text book. ;)
 
Gosh I'm surprised no one sees what the iPad could be. All they see is what it does not have. I could tell you a million things the Mac Pro does not have but that does not make it an inferior machine.

The iPad is GREAT for students. No more carrying a huge heavy backpack around. All you need is an Ipad. It'll carry all your text books and you have iwork for writing notes etc...

I don't care if it doesn't have a camera; my macbook works just fine as a video conferencing machine. I've never heard any one whine so much about a product that has not even been released.
 
I've been out of school for over a decade now, but I never understood why a lecture hall needs to be filled with 200 laptops.

I'm sure they're all just doing it for show and not for any real practical purpose. :rolleyes:

Following a lecture and referring to the textbook while taking notes with pen/pencil and paper seems vastly more effective to me than typing on a laptop.

Most people can type far faster than they can write.

It's so much easier to pack useful information into your notes when done on paper.

And notes taken on a computer are more portable (sharable), searchable, storable, editable...and if you're smart enough to use something like Evernote or Dropbox, you never have to worry about losing your notes. Try that with a notepad.

Still, I preferred taking my own notes anyway. I learn better when I write things myself.

Typing something isn't considered "writing it yourself?" :confused:
 
So you work for MS haha. The iPad is not the killer hardware, that not what its about, its a 1st generation tablet that looks to be able to work. Now if you and MS would stop blowing hot air and bring out something like this then I would listen to Bill Blowhard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmIgNfp-MdI

When they do something like this that actually works, not holding my breath on it coming.

What I think is funny... sooo many people focusing on the use of a stylist for writing! Now... I'll date myself. I'm 47. I've been in the software industry since 1987... learned to type working in the industry. So I hand wrote for over 25 years of my life and still write some today... BUT... I can't imagine why I would want to write on a tablet over typing? Typing is soooo much easier! Watching this video, sure, it would be cool to make a few quick notes, but write more than a note would be silly... give me a Bluetooth keyboard or a virtual keyboard. My hand writing stinks! As I think most people's do these days since we've gotten so use to typing.

So what I'm saying is... the stylist would be cool... but hardly the feature that would make me buy or not buy a tablet. Give me something I can do email, web, and run my applications and I'm good to go... which "run my applications" is what's missing for me in the iPad... when it can support native MacOSX applications, I'm sold. It would be so much more portable and useable for me on the road and in a plane than my MBP.
 
I agree. I feel that Steve Jobs is taking computers and laptops to a different level. This iPad is more then an e-reader. Bill Gates and his virus laden Windows programs can have their opinion then a few years jump on the band wagon with a much crappier version of an ipad years behind. Its to bad nobody can honestly say Windows 7 is alright. Steve Jobs is a visionary in the computer field and Bill Gates is a follower.:apple:

I love Windows 7. As an IT administrator I've been rolling it out to PCs now for a few months and my end users love it too. I have yet to have any problems with it.
 
I suggest that you should brace yourself.

You can't be serious. Brace for when? 2020?

1)Apple Mac/OS has been below 10% marketshare for decades.

2)Even though Apple's Macs have been selling like hotcakes for 2-5 years, the Mac and it's OS are STILL below 10% marketshare. I'm not laughing...I'm stating a fact.

3)In order for Apple to start getting some serious marketshare (20-25%), Apple will need to sell hundreds of millions of Macs...if not billions over the coming years to compete with all the Windows vendors (Dell, HP, Toshiba, Asus, Gateway, Acer, etc.). Apple is not going to sell 100 million Macs in a single year anytime soon. Apple seems to have sold about 12 million Macs in 2009...about 10 million in 2008. So even if Apple started selling Macs at 25 million a year, it would be numerous years before Apple approached the upper 25% marketshare point...and that's if Microsoft and the Windows-based personal computer industry did nothing.

4)Building on #3, my personal opinion is that unless Apple starts selling cheaper Macs, there will be far fewer people out there (marketshare) who are going to spend X on Apple when they can spend 1/3X for a Windows machine...or even 1/2X. I like the style of the iMac's...but I'm just not going to plunk down $1200+ for a computer when, for my needs (and most likely a large % of the consumers out there), I can do the same thing with a $600-$700 pc.


There's no doom and gloom in the future for Apple or its Macs...but since Macs seem to be somewhat low on the priority list for Apple (iPods, iPhones have far outsold the Mac in units for years and now Apple is trying to get this iPad to sell bazillions) I don't feel I need to "brace" for anything in the impending future. :)

http://theappleblog.com/2009/10/19/apple-q4-2009-3m-macs-record-profits/

-Eric
 
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