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Tim Cook should be regretting he let Android take over the smartphone world by such dominating margin. Jeez, each time I check, the iPhone has lost even more market share. The Chinese seem to have a working formula of simply undercutting Apple in price at every level without suffering any consequences. Each year they come back stronger. Apple raising prices is not a practical solution.

Apple still commands the lion’s share of profits in the smartphone market and their active user base continues to grow. I doubt he’s losing any sleep at night over not being able to lay claim to profitless market share.
 
Tim Cook should be regretting he let Android take over the smartphone world by such dominating margin. Jeez, each time I check, the iPhone has lost even more market share. The Chinese seem to have a working formula of simply undercutting Apple in price at every level without suffering any consequences. Each year they come back stronger. Apple raising prices is not a practical solution.

Yet somehow Apple keeps selling phones and increasing their user base. This and Cook’s ability to pivot from iPhone hardware to services and wearables, while still growing overall revenue, ensures Cook isn’t going anywhere. From a business perspective, he’s setting up Apple for the next 10 years.
 
I may be biased but the excitement with webOS and Pre far outshined any iphone love during that time.
Not sure where the excitement was, except for a small group of Palm fans/
Proof?
No app traction. Apparently developers had no "excitement".
Palm, as it was known back then, no longer exist.
Webos is IOT.
 
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Things would be better if Microsoft succeeded with Windows Mobile. Think of what we’d have that Android can’t give you:

  • New OS updates delivered as soon as they are available without waiting for an OEM or carrier to release them.
  • Security updates released immediately (instead of 30-60 days later, or not at all).
  • A seamless experience between your phone and desktop/laptop like Apple users enjoy with Continuity.
  • Using a device without all the data-mining of a company like Google.
  • Universal Apps that can run on your phone or your PC.
You forgot unintuitive settings menu, driver hunting upon system reset, and the need for an antivirus software
 
Ballmer did to Microsoft what Cook is doing to Apple.

Not all is lost for Microsoft since they now have someone competent, Nadella, at the helm and they're still dominant in Windows desktop OS and server OS for Windows clients and have huge potential with Windows on ARM which is a better fusion of mobile OS with desktop capabilities than ChromeOS > Android > iPadOS.

ChromeOS and Android are a joke compared to iPadOS. A wannabe and severely limited “OS” trying to stay relevant by running Fisher Price Android Apps.

Windows on ARM will go nowhere. Anyone who needs to do heavy lifting with Windows software will buy an Intel or AMD laptop which will crush any ARM device.

Further, what SoCs are going to power these Windows-ARM devices? In the SoC race over the past 5+ years Qualcomm and Samsung already grabbed the low-hanging fruit: they kept adding more cores and cranking up the clock speed. Apple took the harder/better road by concentrating on making faster, more efficient cores. Their 6 core processors (with only 2 big cores) easily outperformed the 8 core processors of the competition. And when Apple finally decided to go to 8 cores what do we get? The A12X, which absolutely obliterates every ARM processor on the planet, even Qualcomm’s 8cx “laptop” processor.

Without a solid SoC Windows ARM laptops aren’t going to be very competitive. And if/when Apple decides on an ARM MacBook, they’ll continue to trounce the competition who will have inferior silicon and lack the integration between OS/SoC that Apple will have.
 
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I had Google Pixel 2 phone and at the time every reviewer was bragging on how good the camera was on it. I personally thought it was just good and nothing to brag about. Though I have camera gear that will put smartphones cameras to shame, so maybe I'm a little biased when it comes to judging them. I didn't like the Android OS as I always found it a little awkward compared to Apple's iOS on the iPhone. Never ever thought of getting a Windows phone as every review I ever heard said that the phone was not yet ready for the average user. I like the iPhone as I like how it's part of the Apple ecosystem that I have going with my iMac Pro, iPad Pro and AW3. I find I am more productive as I not closing apps to read a text message or respond to one. I don't think I ever buy a non-iPhone again.
 
Not sure where the excitement was, except for a small group of Palm fans/
Proof?
No app traction. Apparently developers had no "excitement".
Palm, as it was known back then, no longer exist.
Webos is IOT.

My excitement. Whatever though. Thanks for the insight mr obvious lol
 
I never get tired of watching Steve Ballmer mock the iPhone. I've probably watched that video 20 times, and I just watched it again now. I remember when Ballmer did that interview, and thinking "just you wait."
 
I'm no fan of Steve Ballmer, but at the time he made that comment, it was a pretty good summary based on what we knew about the iPhone. Sure, he should have been smart enough to hold off to see if the announced features/prices would be final but that clip is taken way out of context. He was talking about the iPhone after it was announced which was months away from actually being in stores and in consumer hands.
 
Yet somehow Apple keeps selling phones and increasing their user base. This and Cook’s ability to pivot from iPhone hardware to services and wearables, while still growing overall revenue, ensures Cook isn’t going anywhere. From a business perspective, he’s setting up Apple for the next 10 years.

I wouldn’t be so sure about that. Apple is essentially a phone company that is seeing growth in phone sales grind to a halt. “Wearables” probably isn’t going to make up for that.

Cook’s answer to slowing sales has been to jack up prices, and you can only get away with that for so long. It’s a short-term panic move.
 
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In a way, I kinda feel sorry for Gates and Microsoft. Ok, as sorry as one can be for billionaires. :p

For years, they were trying to get Windows to run across platforms. I remember some commentator saying MS wasn't going to stop until your toaster ran Windows. We kept hearing how they were trying to develop a tablet that would run windows and revolutionize mobile computing. They tried for years to come up with a really good concept for it.

Then along comes the iPad and essentially Apple knocked it out of the box from the start. And Windows/MS had to play from behind once again.
 
Windows Phone for me was / is the best mobile platform, it's a pity it ended up that way.

Loved every second using it!
 
I'm an Apple zealot but I really like what Nadella is doing with Microsoft and I'm glad Ballmer is gone.

Satya opposed Ballmer's misguided Nokia buyout from the start, is leading MS in the cloud, expanding MS's presence in games again and opening up software and development tools like VisualStudio to Linux and Mac. Heck even Flight Simulator is making a comeback! A Microsoft that leans into its strengths is good for the whole tech industry imo.

Also I think Windows Phone was a sleek platform and I'm sorry it didn't take Android's spot as the defacto 'open' OS in the smartphone space. I much prefer straight up Hardware/Software companies like Apple and Microsoft, as opposed to pseudo tech advertising giants like Google.
Microsoft is showing that companies can change.
 
I disagree, Android is still rubbish when compared to the iOS. So many random app crashes and bugs, however its nowhere near as bad as it once was...
You have no real reason to disagree because he is correct. I also still own a Windows 10 Mobile phone and Android has been for years way more stable and smooth overall that W10 Mobile.
My Lumia phone still randomly freezes, shuts down or restarts. Apps don't work that well and I have often freezes because of it. I don't remember when was the last time this happened to me with an Android phone.
And it's simply not rubbish when compared to the iOS.
 
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I see this as bill gates missing apple vs microsoft rivalry... they kinda drifted out of eagh other now, has different priorities and no longer directly competing against each other... even imo windows is heading into a different direction from mac os. I guess he just miss the old mac vs pc as windows mobile vs ios but that didnt happen...
 
Tim Cook should be regretting he let Android take over the smartphone world by such dominating margin. Jeez, each time I check, the iPhone has lost even more market share. The Chinese seem to have a working formula of simply undercutting Apple in price at every level without suffering any consequences. Each year they come back stronger. Apple raising prices is not a practical solution.

It's not about market share & never has been. Apple makes good money from selling devices but long-term approach is selling services & subscriptions. Why do you think Apple have invested so heavily in TV & film?

Besides, Apple have always taken the lions share of profits in the industry. I can't see that changing especially when the profit in selling Android devices is so low. Selling devices is all the Android device manufactures have up their sleeve. It's short-term thinking but all they can do.
 
It's not about market share & never has been. Apple makes good money from selling devices but long-term approach is selling services & subscriptions. Why do you think Apple have invested so heavily in TV & film?
Why has Apple invested in TV & film?
Because they don't have any good ideas left.
Besides, Apple have always taken the lions share of profits in the industry. I can't see that changing especially when the profit in selling Android devices is so low. Selling devices is all the Android device manufactures have up their sleeve. It's short-term thinking but all they can do.

Actually it is changing, nothing lasts for ever.
The upcoming wave of mid-range Android phones build around the 7nm process will almost make high-end or premium smartphones irrelevant anyway.

https://www.counterpointresearch.co...-collapses-8-q1-2019-apple-shipments-drop-20/
 
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Actually it is changing, nothing lasts for ever.
The upcoming wave of mid-range Android phones build around the 7nm process will almost make high-end or premium smartphones irrelevant.

https://www.counterpointresearch.co...-collapses-8-q1-2019-apple-shipments-drop-20/

They really won't as they will still be budget phones with mediocre processors teamed with 3GB-4GB RAM. Mid-range are competent devices & and yes, mid-range Android phones always sell well globally, but they are not a replacement for the high-end.

High-end tech trickles down to the mid-range tier, not the other way round.
 
I admire Bill Gates. He is not speaking in platitudes. He is talking about the tech, not the customer experience. He is not worried about shareholders.
Even better, he probably was only involved at a very high level but yet takes all the blame.
Wasn’t it Harry Truman who said “The buck stops here”. In any well run company it will the the boss who takes the blame, it’s only in badly run and often struggling companies that the blame goes down.
 
Android kind of feels like the same Windows Mobile (pre-Metro) and Symbian used to be, pretty messy. I think the only reason Android is so popular is because it's free for the manufacturers. If the Windows was free, I think we'd had seen a pretty widespread adoption. It had a ton of useful features and innovations like tiles and overall very smooth user experience. It's downfall was lack of apps.
But it's not free for the manufacturers, they have to pay if they what Google Services bundled with their Android phones.
 
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