Bill Gates Regrets Microsoft Losing to Android as Dominant Platform Beyond iPhone

Microsoft should repeat what they are doing with the new Edge browser. They are now basing it off Chromium--which is open source. Simply do the same. Make an enterprise-based phone that does what windows phone did (quite well I might add) and base it off Android. Then make all your stuff the best on android, but only allow certain resolutions and allow upgrade paths by working with Google. Now lock it down and voila. You have a secure alternative to iOS that can work with UWP. Make the hardware experience great, like it is with Surface. It could work.

Microsoft is done in the consumer space due to past missteps. They owned gaming and could have done amazing things with the momentum from X-Box 360 and PC but they botched it. Now they are trying again but this time Sony figured it out with PlayStation. They had mobile phones back in the early 2000s but botched that up. Windows OS is a security nightmare and patching monthly is like Russian roulette.

I've seen way too many fans on here jump on MS bandwagon when they drop a new item only to be let down with MS leaves that space and abandons the product. Search the forums and you will see me saying don't do it countless times to no avail. Once a company decides to take on MS in the Office and OS space with some truly innovative solutions, MS may become the next IBM relying on cloud only.
 
I regret it too. Their phones were excellent and basically suffered from limited app adoption. Cortana back then (shoot, gotta be four years ago now) performed better than Siri does now, for me. I'd have absolutely loved to see their phones really evolve and truly adapt the windows 10 on the fly switching that they were touring would come. Couple that with today's Surface and that would've made it a productivity powerhouse. I still look back at my Lumia 920 and wonder what could have been.
 
This.

Microsoft had the resources and talent to make a play in mobile but Ballmer was the wrong man to be at the helm of MS. He had no vision and understanding of the technical landscape.

Satya Nadella could have handled this. He has been an outstanding steward of MS since he took the helm.
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Agreed - MS could have done better than Android because it had an ecosystem in the enterprise and of course gaming in the home. Ballmer was the wrong man to shephard that exercise.

Interestingly enough - while MS does not have a mobile OS/phone hardware - it does have reach into mobile through its apps. Nadella opened MS Office, One Drive, Contacts, Skype, etc to iOS and Android. So you could turn either platform into a Windows mobile platform by using their MS applications.
That is true, Though unfortunately both platforms still require things like Google/iCloud accounts etc, things that could keep you out of the MS Ecosystem. The MS Ecosystem requires some "work" to get going unfortunately. It isn't something you can just buy and use out of the box (Majority of Windows, and Mac users, think the suburban soccer mom, or a grandparent). If you are already setting up an iCloud account, most of these people would be going towards Apple's Ecosystem. Nevermind the fact that the Apple ID is required to even download those MS apps to begin with.
 
Everything about Microsoft conflicts with the task of building a good mobile OS. They can do integrated business stuff well, but phones are for everyone.
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No Windows is not messy as Android lol
*looks at Windows registry* uhh
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Microsoft should repeat what they are doing with the new Edge browser. They are now basing it off Chromium--which is open source. Simply do the same. Make an enterprise-based phone that does what windows phone did (quite well I might add) and base it off Android. Then make all your stuff the best on android, but only allow certain resolutions and allow upgrade paths by working with Google. Now lock it down and voila. You have a secure alternative to iOS that can work with UWP. Make the hardware experience great, like it is with Surface. It could work.
Agreed, I don't see anything wrong with this approach. But I don't know what businesses want exactly.
 
Nadella is ****ing awesome.

He’s not though. Wasted the Nokia mobile acquisition. Windows 10 Mobile was a total joke compared to 8.1 and he eventually killed it. One misstep after the other from that idiot. I won’t buy another MS product because of him. At least Ballmer believed in his products.
 
Good lord - hope you didn't go to business school.

Investing in content that you can sell through your platforms and service channels is not running out of good ideas - its implementing them. its how you make more money on top of what you make selling hardware with software. its called leveraging revenue annuities/streams.

o_O I stay by what I said. You haven't showed that I'm wrong.
Apple should have thought of this idea many years ago. Now they are quite late to the party. And also taking in consideration their way of doing things, chances are against them.

You can have android phones on a 7NM process and then what - sell them at razor thin marging and let another company sell services over it and make the higher margin profits. Apple is sealing up both ends. In fact - the Android model is copying the MS model - deployment of an OS (except for free) that uses free software in exchange for harvesting personal data. Where is the revenue/profit??

Apple is operating on borrowed time, they are selling very expensive hardware which will make less and less sense as time goes by. That's why I mentioned 7nm mid range phones.
Most people will have access to some of the services apple will provide or similar, better services without the need to spend big amounts of money on a phone.So there won't be much added value in buying a very expensive phones.
Apple already started to lose market share and the Xs and Xs Max most likely don't have very great sales performance in comparison to previous generation top of the line iphones. This is only the start.

Google is letting its TV plaftorm stagnate - Apple is investing in it both software and hardware and content.
iPhone and Wearables - same thing.
iPad - same thing.
In the Android market place - Google makes the revenue on Ads and data sales. Not selling software. The phone makers that are not Apple will make razor thin margins on selling commoditized hardware -- 7NM process not withstanding.

You are only mentioning pointless things in the context of what I wrote in my previous comments.
Android phone makers will continue do what they are doing right now the only difference is their 7nm mid-range will be much better than their current mid-range phones. You don't really understand what I meant when i mentioned 7nm mid-range phones.This is what happens when somebody talks out of experience vs somebody that is just imagining things.


Do you think that is a model for dominance?

What exactly do you mean anyway? What dominance are you talking about?
 
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ROGMaster Quote - o_O I stay by what I said. You haven't showed that I'm wrong.
Apple should have thought of this idea many years ago. Now they are quite late to the party. And also taking in consideration their way of doing things, chances are against them.""

Maybe - but their ecosystem wasn't where it is now many years ago. Apple's history has been based on coming to market areas late but doing it better and more effectively. Apple has a growing cash horde that is heading towards $300 billion - they can buy content easily or acquire a content company (Disney has been rumored). Things aren't too stacked against them.

ROGMaster Quote - "Apple is operating on borrowed time, they are selling very expensive hardware which will make less and less sense as time goes by. That's why I mentioned 7nm mid range phones.
Most people will have access to some of the services apple will provide or similar, better services without the need to spend big amounts of money on a phone.So there won't be much added value in buying a very expensive phones.
Apple already started to lose market share and the Xs and Xs Max most likely don't have very great sales performance in comparison to previous generation top of the line iphones. This is only the start."

If the iPhone was the only thing that Apple relied upon - yeah that might the case. But Apple's phone market share has always fluctuated up and down. Their investment in services and boosting their software muscle offers other revenue streams to mitigate this fluctuation. The iPhone is not going anywhere. The services provided "by others". Who is providing them? Google? They are cutting products and services. Their primary business is advertising and information harvesting. Aside from the Android phone and the applications delivered for free by Google - what do they offer? Apple has media streaming for which they are building a value proposition people will pay for. They have Apple Music which now competes with Spotify for paid music services. Google or android phone providers don't have that. Apple is very successful with Apple Pay - which earns them money. So we have to look at the phone makers that compete providing low margin phones without a coherent ecosystem backing them up. It seems Apple has the superior value proposition for customers and a more coherent ecosystem. I can access Apple services through my phone, my watch, my AppleTV, my iPad and my Mac. There is more than one vector to access Apples services than just the phone. The Android world is shrinking - they will have no tablets, their wearables are losing to Apple, Google's ChromeCast is now falling behind Roku because Google has not focused on it.

Yet you only bring up phones and discussion about a 7nm process as that will change the revenue dynamic between the Android and Apple ecosystems. You base your argument on the observation or prediction that the Android handset maker's mid-range phones will be bettie in the future than they are now. The same could be said of the iPhone. So what will materially change in the current dynamic? Nothing. Right now - based on information now - Apple's investment in their ecosystem has positioned Apple to deliver value through multiple revenue streams that go beyond just the phone. Android handset makers live and die by selling low-to-midrange phones relying on the free services provided by Google. Hence they are dependent on the decision and investments made by Google which recently has shown a penchant to abandon products and services on a whim. The only company I see in the Android world that could deliver on the same value proposition as Apple is Samsung. They are investing in software and back-end services that integrate with their Android based products. They also have the cash to pull it off. But that still remains to be seen.

Sorry - objective analysis doesn't support your opinion.
 
Google's ChromeCast is now falling behind Roku because Google has not focused on it.

Chromecast and Roku are different tech and don’t really share the same experiences. Falling behind in what way? Just about every tv except for TCL includes a chromecast.

AndroidOS isn’t going into the abyss anytime soon. If Android OS dies, maybe Microsoft or another company can course correct again. There will always be a need for low and mid range phones at a macro level.

Think globally and not just U.S.
 
Maybe - but their ecosystem wasn't where it is now many years ago. Apple's history has been based on coming to market areas late but doing it better and more effectively. Apple has a growing cash horde that is heading towards $300 billion - they can buy content easily or acquire a content company (Disney has been rumored). Things aren't too stacked against them.

This is just an excuse that doesn't prove me wrong.
Apple will buy Disney now? LoL be serious.

If the iPhone was the only thing that Apple relied upon - yeah that might the case.

Not the only thing but it is the most important one.

But Apple's phone market share has always fluctuated up and down. Their investment in services and boosting their software muscle offers other revenue streams to mitigate this fluctuation.

I'm more interested in unit sales. That's more relevant, that's were Apple is starting to lose.

The iPhone is not going anywhere. The services provided "by others". Who is providing them? Google? They are cutting products and services. Their primary business is advertising and information harvesting. Aside from the Android phone and the applications delivered for free by Google - what do they offer?

I never said the iphone is going somewhere.
And yes services provided by other companies like Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Netflix, Spotify, Disney etc. etc.
I don't know whats your deal with Google but you have quite an obtuse view of their product portfolio. Google has a vide range of services that are more popular than anything Apple offers, things like Gmail, Youtube, Maps, Search, Drive. So things that are not going away anytime soon. Google's own the most popular browser in the world, the most popular map system, the most popular video streaming service, the most email client, the most popular search client etc.

Apple has media streaming for which they are building a value proposition people will pay for.

They haven't launched the service yet like others did.

They have Apple Music which now competes with Spotify for paid music services. Google or android phone providers don't have that.

Yes Google does have that. Check it for yourself. And isn't Spotify on Android as well?

Apple is very successful with Apple Pay - which earns them money.

Google is also successful with their payment system.
Even Wechat is successful with it's payment system.

So we have to look at the phone makers that compete providing low margin phones without a coherent ecosystem backing them up. It seems Apple has the superior value proposition for customers and a more coherent ecosystem.
Yeah and things here are not what they seem.
I can access Apple services through my phone, my watch, my AppleTV, my iPad and my Mac. There is more than one vector to access Apples services than just the phone. The Android world is shrinking - they will have no tablets, their wearables are losing to Apple, Google's ChromeCast is now falling behind Roku because Google has not focused on it.
You can do the same on the Android side.
And the Android world is not shrinking at all.
Yet you only bring up phones and discussion about a 7nm process as that will change the revenue dynamic between the Android and Apple ecosystems.

Well you meddled in my discussion so don't try to dictate what I should and shouldn't say.
You don't even understand what I meant when I mentioned mid-range 7nm phones.
I said nothing about changing the revenue dynamic between the Android and Apple ecosystems. That's something you just made up.

You base your argument on the observation or prediction that the Android handset maker's mid-range phones will be bettie in the future than they are now. The same could be said of the iPhone. So what will materially change in the current dynamic? Nothing.
bettie? You mean better?
I don't base that on assumptions or observation but on experience.
Mid-range and low-end Android phones are objectively getting better and better each year.

Right now - based on information now - Apple's investment in their ecosystem has positioned Apple to deliver value through multiple revenue streams that go beyond just the phone. Android handset makers live and die by selling low-to-midrange phones relying on the free services provided by Google.
Hence they are dependent on the decision and investments made by Google which recently has shown a penchant to abandon products and services on a whim. The only company I see in the Android world that could deliver on the same value proposition as Apple is Samsung. They are investing in software and back-end services that integrate with their Android based products. They also have the cash to pull it off. But that still remains to be seen.

This has nothing to do with what I wrote.
If you are waiting for the smartphone manufactures that provide good quality and value hardware and which are constantly gaining new costumers to fail and disappear you can continue to wait until you are tired of waiting.

Sorry - objective analysis doesn't support your opinion.
? What are you talking about?
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Chromecast and Roku are different tech and don’t really share the same experiences. Falling behind in what way? Just about every tv except for TCL includes a chromecast.

AndroidOS isn’t going into the abyss anytime soon. If Android OS dies, maybe Microsoft or another company can course correct again. There will always be a need for low and mid range phones at a macro level.

Think globally and not just U.S.
Bingo.
 
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He’s not though. Wasted the Nokia mobile acquisition. Windows 10 Mobile was a total joke compared to 8.1 and he eventually killed it. One misstep after the other from that idiot. I won’t buy another MS product because of him. At least Ballmer believed in his products.
Ok you're right, I'll take my opinion and shove it.
 
Chromecast and Roku are different tech and don’t really share the same experiences. Falling behind in what way? Just about every tv except for TCL includes a chromecast.

AndroidOS isn’t going into the abyss anytime soon. If Android OS dies, maybe Microsoft or another company can course correct again. There will always be a need for low and mid range phones at a macro level.

Think globally and not just U.S.

Google has not upgraded their hardware or supporting software with new features in a while. There have been observations and discussions on this in Android Police and Android Central. Many fear it’s being forgotten like so many other endeavors.
 
This is just an excuse that doesn't prove me wrong.
Apple will buy Disney now? LoL be serious.



Not the only thing but it is the most important one.



I'm more interested in unit sales. That's more relevant, that's were Apple is starting to lose.



I never said the iphone is going somewhere.
And yes services provided by other companies like Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Netflix, Spotify, Disney etc. etc.
I don't know whats your deal with Google but you have quite an obtuse view of their product portfolio. Google has a wide range of services that are more popular than anything Apple offers, things like Gmail, Youtube, Maps, Search, Drive. So things that are not going away anytime soon. Google's own the most popular browser in the world, the most popular map system, the most popular video streaming service, the most email client, the most popular search client .

I’m starting to think we are talking past each other here. I have no problem with Google - I have never said that period. Their revenue model for ad revenues is solid as well as data sales. My observations relate to the Android ecosystem and the fact that Googles success is not coupled to Android phone sales but the success of the Android ecosystem is dependent on what Google does with it. Which I think poses a weakness in this ecosystem.

Your point about Apple being in decline because of improvements coming to Android phones - and your focus on period to period unit sales - which fluctuate up and down. That is independent of Google. Android phones could disappear tomorrow and Google will still be making money.

The services Google does provide for the Android platform are things for which Google gives away for free - including Gmail, Maps, search, etc. There is no revenue tied to these. In contrast - Spotify makes money on subscriptions - even if it’s on Android - Google doesn’t make any money. Google makes no revenue on its web browser aside from ad revenue tied to search results. Likewise - phone makers don’t capture revenue from these services. The moment these services don’t support Googles primary sources of revenue - they could be cut. That would negatively impact the Android ecosystem.

Apple Music provides revenue to Apple in addition to iTunes. Apple can make money on Apple Music and iTunes without the iPhone - I.e. Apple iPod, Watch, iPad, Mac, or AppleTV. Apple Pay delivers revenue as will AppleTV +. Apple still makes more money and profit off of its App Store than Google does - those apps can be purchased for the iPhone, iPad, AppleTV and Mac. Those revenue are not dependent directly on sales of iPhones.

The only company I see going against this dynamic Samsung - they seem intent on taking the open source stock Android and building their own ecosystem on top of that. Hence you see Samsung Pay being developed to compete with Google Pay and Apple
Pay. You see the development of Dex which I think is very innovative. I see Samsung building and investing in the Android platform
In the same way I see Google pulling away from Android in favor of ChromeOS. That means the most meaningful portion of the Android market will be tied to Samsung and not Google.
 
I’m starting to think we are talking past each other here. I have no problem with Google - I have never said that period.
Well it's they way you repeatedly talk about them that makes it obvious that you have some problem with Google.
Their revenue model for ad revenues is solid as well as data sales. My observations relate to the Android ecosystem and the fact that Googles success is not coupled to Android phone sales but the success of the Android ecosystem is dependent on what Google does with it. Which I think poses a weakness in this ecosystem.

It's a pointless point to make in respect to the reason I mentioned upcoming 7nm mid-range phones.

Your point about Apple being in decline because of improvements coming to Android phones - and your focus on period to period unit sales - which fluctuate up and down. That is independent of Google. Android phones could disappear tomorrow and Google will still be making money.

iphone sales are already declining, it's a reality not a prediction.
My point was that mid range phones will start to create more serious problems for expensive flagships in general so I wasn't talking only about iphones like you are imagining.
Google has no role in what I said, I was strictly thinking about the hardware.
The services Google does provide for the Android platform are things for which Google gives away for free - including Gmail, Maps, search, etc. There is no revenue tied to these. In contrast - Spotify makes money on subscriptions - even if it’s on Android - Google doesn’t make any money. Google makes no revenue on its web browser aside from ad revenue tied to search results. Likewise - phone makers don’t capture revenue from these services. The moment these services don’t support Googles primary sources of revenue - they could be cut. That would negatively impact the Android ecosystem.

You claimed that Google is cutting products and services and their business is advertising and information harvesting pretending that Gmail, Maps, Photos, Drive, Youtube, Docs etc. as extremely popular services don't exist. Google is making money form everything, including Chrome. And Google has Play Music which competes with Spotify so I don't get your point.

Apple Music provides revenue to Apple in addition to iTunes. Apple can make money on Apple Music and iTunes without the iPhone - I.e. Apple iPod, Watch, iPad, Mac, or AppleTV. Apple Pay delivers revenue as will AppleTV +. Apple still makes more money and profit off of its App Store than Google does - those apps can be purchased for the iPhone, iPad, AppleTV and Mac. Those revenue are not dependent directly on sales of iPhones.

Most of the revenue and profits Apple makes is dependent on iphone sales and some of the revenue is indirectly dependent on iphone sales. How many people that don't have an iphone bought a watch and how many people that don't have an iOS device bought an AppleTV?
Even with Services division the biggest contributor in terms of revenue and profits is AppleCare which is directly tied to hardware sales.

The only company I see going against this dynamic Samsung - they seem intent on taking the open source stock Android and building their own ecosystem on top of that. Hence you see Samsung Pay being developed to compete with Google Pay and Apple Pay. You see the development of Dex which I think is very innovative. I see Samsung building and investing in the Android platform
In the same way I see Google pulling away from Android in favor of ChromeOS. That means the most meaningful portion of the Android market will be tied to Samsung and not Google.

It's not about any ecosystem, it's not about ios or android.
I was taking about the hardware mid-range phones will offer in the very near future, specifically the transition to 7nm for mid-range SOCs. I was talking about something very easy to understand so you can stop with this pointless talk about ecosystems, I'm not impressed by it in any way.
Google has not upgraded their hardware or supporting software with new features in a while. There have been observations and discussions on this in Android Police and Android Central. Many fear it’s being forgotten like so many other endeavors.
Google Home which is the app that connects to Chromecast got quite a substantial update a few months ago.
Also Chromecast was last updated in October 2018, but in general it's not a product that needs to be updated frequently.
 
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Most of the revenue and profits Apple makes is dependent on iphone sales and some of the revenue is indirectly dependent on iphone sales. How many people that don't have an iphone bought a watch and how many people that don't have an iOS device bought an AppleTV?
Even with Services division the biggest contributor in terms of revenue and profits is AppleCare which is directly tied to hardware sales.

I wish to offer a minor correction.

The revenue would be dependent on the number of active iPhone users, not necessarily iPhone sales. And this number continues to grow.

For example, I don’t need someone to buy an iPhone from Apple directly in order for him to then buy an Apple Watch. He could have bought one off the second hand market, or have it handed down from somewhere. This customer can still go on to subscribe to services, purchase apps and other accessories.

https://www.aboveavalon.com/notes/2019/5/30/apples-billion-users

AboveAvalon has done an estimated breakdown of the current pool of iPhone users. The numbers look promising.

Accordingly, Apple’s billion users can be broken into the following groupings:

200 million people spending an average of $25 per year (people in the gray market).

620 million people spending an average $260 per year (includes 400M iPhone-only users upgrading every four years).

180 million people spending an average $500 per year (Apple’s core users in the U.S. and a handful of other countries buying a number of Apple products and paying for various services and subscriptions).

Apple is in a strong position to sell additional devices and services to these billion users without jeopardizing the long-term health of the ecosystem.
 
The revenue would be dependent on the number of active iPhone users, not necessarily iPhone sales. And this number continues to grow.

I recall you saying Apple wasn’t pivoting to services to expand their revenue.

Which is it now? Are you going to continue linking an optimistic Apple blog, or are you going to selectively choose your rhetoric?

Regardless, the hardware sales currently today is what makes up the bulk of Apple’s profits. It remains to be seen how services will offset hardware sales.
 
I wish to offer a minor correction.

The revenue would be dependent on the number of active iPhone users, not necessarily iPhone sales. And this number continues to grow.

For example, I don’t need someone to buy an iPhone from Apple directly in order for him to then buy an Apple Watch. He could have bought one off the second hand market, or have it handed down from somewhere. This customer can still go on to subscribe to services, purchase apps and other accessories.

https://www.aboveavalon.com/notes/2019/5/30/apples-billion-users

AboveAvalon has done an estimated breakdown of the current pool of iPhone users. The numbers look promising.

Apple is in a strong position to sell additional devices and services to these billion users without jeopardizing the long-term health of the ecosystem.
Possibly but people that buy used phones in general look for value so I doubt the 429$ price for an accessory will be very attractive for them.
The point is simple, to use an apple watch you need an iphone so you can't buy one without the other. A constant reduction in iphone sales would eventually affect Apple's Watch growth.
 
they had enough luck making Windows so popular in an era with no competition, but Windows and Microsoft aren't great products, they are just something no one else where doing, let's face it (Apple and IBM are different things). As soon as some kind of open competition came, they went down the hill. Their company heads and "innovations" are just silly, Windows is so everywhere that they doesn't know what to change or how to evolve it without annoying half of their public, and the decisions they make are always tacky. Window 10 (which I have the misfortune to use in the office) is a mix of all the windows I've been using since 3.1, I mean , there are some preferences that uses the same layout!!! this is so crazy!, small pixelated text preferences that I can't touch in my Surface Pro with the finger.

Windows at least is migrating to a Unix system, 19 years after MacOSX, as they doesn't feel hurry in this as no other OS exist (I mean "user friendly OS" no talking about Linux) if Apple would just made it's OS open, Microsoft would be reduced to a fraction of their size in seconds.

Making a Windows like desktop OS is toooooooo hard, but who knows what are the plans for Andorid in the future. Maybe Microsoft is feeling some kind of competition in the far far horizont?

For a giant as MS, phone market can't be lost, they just need to start smart, and small, only that way you can do things right. Take the basics and think in 10 years from now, but this is something MS is unable to do, at least until now.

It would be so great to have a real alternative to Apple in desktops, cheaper systems to compete with the "a bit expensive but really well done" Apple products.
 
they had enough luck making Windows so popular in an era with no competition, but Windows and Microsoft aren't great products, they are just something no one else where doing, let's face it (Apple and IBM are different things). As soon as some kind of open competition came, they went down the hill. Their company heads and "innovations" are just silly, Windows is so everywhere that they doesn't know what to change or how to evolve it without annoying half of their public, and the decisions they make are always tacky. Window 10 (which I have the misfortune to use in the office) is a mix of all the windows I've been using since 3.1, I mean , there are some preferences that uses the same layout!!! this is so crazy!, small pixelated text preferences that I can't touch in my Surface Pro with the finger.

Windows at least is migrating to a Unix system, 19 years after MacOSX, as they doesn't feel hurry in this as no other OS exist (I mean "user friendly OS" no talking about Linux) if Apple would just made it's OS open, Microsoft would be reduced to a fraction of their size in seconds.

Making a Windows like desktop OS is toooooooo hard, but who knows what are the plans for Andorid in the future. Maybe Microsoft is feeling some kind of competition in the far far horizont?

For a giant as MS, phone market can't be lost, they just need to start smart, and small, only that way you can do things right. Take the basics and think in 10 years from now, but this is something MS is unable to do, at least until now.

It would be so great to have a real alternative to Apple in desktops, cheaper systems to compete with the "a bit expensive but really well done" Apple products.


I think Apple products and OSes are top notch, the price on the other hand leaves a lot to be desired. Hardware wise, you can buy a MacBook Pro and that baby will last for a decade getting new OSes for 7 years too. Can you imagine a plastic Windows laptop lasting a decade? Possible but not likely.

Google and Apple are in a great spot to take over the consumer OS market because they have developers developing for their platform. Once they get apps available across all platforms it's game over for MS.
 
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