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Bill Maher on the iPhone
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You keep saying that like your opinion is what everyone thinks. I have a 6s plus and the 7 is absolutely worth every penny to me. The 8 will be too etc...
I agreed with everytihng till you said "mediocre displays and "mediocre battery sizes".
iPhones uses LCD displays. THEY DONT NEED 500 PPI displays like those ****** pentile screens. The plus models have 400+ PPI, thats more than you eye is capable of differentiating. 400 or 450 doesn't make that big of a difference.
And about mediocre battery sizes, again that's just BS. The reason why apple gets away with smaller batteries is because the processors are so damn efficient. The SE has 1600 or so mah battery. That's TINY but the battery life is insane, I used that phone for 3 weeks and not once did I get <10 hours of usage and 32-33 hours of stanby. That's insane when you compare it to other android devices.
One of the reasons I went Note 7 is because it offers great battery life, an amazing display, an awesome camera, SD Card support, still has an audio port and last of all, I didn't want to support Apple's decision to offer a marginal improvement over the iPhone 6 & 6s. I want them to feel pressure from consumers and bring us something truly worthy of upgrading to next year.
This post makes my brain hurt, although I have no brain.
iPhone 7 is a placeholder phone. But a impressive worthy upgrade placeholder phone. This was supposed to be the release date for the new designed phone, but it wasn't ready.
Would you rather have that edge-to-edge iPhone rushed to market? I think it's better they took their time.
Well maybe I'm in the minority, but I know I'm not, most can very easily tell the difference between an OLED QHD display and IPS LCD 750 or 1080 display. No one NEEDS half of what phones come with today, but that doesn't stop any of us from buying them. You don't NEED a car that goes above the speed limit, but I'm guessing you have one. You don't NEED two bathrooms, but most people have two. You don't NEED a lot of things, but I guarantee you can tell the difference between one and the other. Likewise with screens or a lot of features on phones. I think most are just getting to the point of boredom and waiting for that next big thing. I agree with you, the SE is an awesome phone and that's the type of stuff that keeps me buying Apple products. In a lot of ways, the SE is that sleeper that everyone has been asking for. But going from the Note 5 to the SE, the screen was an eyesore, but it's the only thing I really missed. Now I sit here with my Nexus 6P that is acting up and it has been a wonderful phone IMHO, but debating between the 6S, 6S+, 7, and 7+, I find myself at a cross road. Do I go for the 6S or 6S+ as they will fit the bill perfectly fine and I can probably get one for a decent price. Or do I splurge for the 7 or 7+ as I really want the matte black or jet black. But you know why all four phones are in the running? Because I love the 4.7 screen size but have had both the 6 and 6S before and their battery life is absolutely atrocious for a 2016 phone. The SE, again, is a wonderful phone (and rivals plus models (had both again) in battery life), but in the days of 5.5" to 5.7" phones, it's very hard to adjust back to. 4.3" to 4.7" is where it is at for me with the occasional 5.0"+. But the battery life is holding me back from the 4.7's right now.
Go use another phone if you don't like it. I hate to see you get so angry over your phone. Although, I have no eyes. Yohohohoho!
Here is the thing, I had 6S Plus for a couple of months and my girlfriend used to have the S7. In terms of sharpness, I didn't feel much difference between them. The reason why S7 has such pixel high density and needs one is because of the diamond pentile layout that it uses. If it had a 1080p screen it wouldn't look anywhere as sharp as the 1080p on 6/6s/7plus phones.
In terms of blacks, obviously the S7 beat my 6S plus but it also felt very saturated . I didn't like it much. 6S Plus had much better colors for me apart from the blacks.(for me is the key part).
The screen was always going to disappoint you when you go from a 2012 LCD display to a 2015 Super Amoled display of over 500ppi. I can see how much better the screen on 7 is vs my SE even though the PPI is same.
I also disagree the part where you say 6 and 6S had atrocious battery life. I used 6S from September 2015 to June 2016. I didn't really disappoint me as a fairly heavy user and then I got the 6S Plus and I realized 6S while satisfied my needs,6S Plus was a battery monster and then I got the SE and it has even battery. In week of using the 7,the SE beats it,not by a huge margin but it does beat it. Having said that iPhone 7 and iPhone SE have similar battery life claims by Apple.
For me iPhone SE is one of the best iPhones apple has created. A newer generation display with 3D touch and a few better features at a $499 price point for a 32gb model would basically be my ideal mobile phone.
I've always found it laughable how people don't think 1080p is a sufficient resolution for a 5.5" display.
Most of you probably have 40-50" 1080p displays in your living rooms that you're perfectly happy with!!
Rival devices cram in the 'better' specs for bragging rights and to look better than the competition. The iPhone Plus screens look gorgeous and really don't need to be any higher res.
Most of you probably have 40-50" 1080p displays in your living rooms that you're perfectly happy with!!
Rival devices cram in the 'better' specs for bragging rights and to look better than the competition. The iPhone Plus screens look gorgeous and really don't need to be any higher res.
Why it makes it even funnier because samsung uses pentile displays which basically make the screen look a lot less sharper than it actually is. The pentile display is the MAJOR reason why samsung needs to put such high resolution on their phone. A 1080p pentile display on a 5.5 inch would look a lot worse than iPhone's 1080p LCD-IPS display on the Plus models.
You didn't get flamed just to get flamed in that other post - there's just no reason to lecture people on their purchases. If it's not worth it to you, great - that doesn't invalidate others opinions of the phone's worth.
Furthermore, I fail to even see your argument. There isn't much of a price difference (taxes) to upgrade yearly on a program or every two years so what the heck is the difference if you're spending $400 per year on the latest phone or $400 a year to have a phone for two years?!
I'll spend $400 per year to have the newest iPhone - it's literally with me at all times. The $33 +/- that breaks down to monthly is negligible. I've spent $33 on far dumber ****.
Bill's rant isn't about the iPhone specifically. it is about rampant consumerism and and short term corporate growth driving the way we are sold to. the problem is, by focusing on such an easy and contentious target, the message is lost, as shown in these two pages of posts defending or ridiculing the new iPhone. the thing is, Apple should keep coming out with improvements and updates. everyone should for everything. as long as they are improvements and updates the offer real value or move the category forward. but by making it about Apple, he missed who is really at fault. it's us, the consumers that fall for the pitch. always taken in by the new shiny, by what our neighbor or that guy at the office has. shopping has become our national medicine. we use it to convey our identity, our belonging and in some sad self-deluding, our individuality (Hot Topic is a store in the mall. and that is all that needs to be said on that).
but everything is on at least an annual cycle. and every year we are encouraged to buy the new one. or in the case of clothing, every couple months. brands/retailers such as H&M, Old Navy, Uniqlo... have reinvented shopping for clothes. their products are cheap, and cheaply made. they are designed to be continuously replaced, at least quarterly. and they have to be replaced as they quickly fall apart. and people buy it, all day long.
no one needs to buy an iPhone every year, but many do. plenty of people have the money so they will spend regardless. and many who don't have the money, will spend what they have. how many dollar stores are out there selling things that can barely fill their purpose when brand new, and trash within a few months. but people keep shopping there because all they can spare is a few bucks and shopping is what we do. getting our fix. and many will spend what they don't have, being constantly in debt to have something they really shouldn't and mostly don't need.
at least the serial up-graders of expensive tech usually down-cycle their products to folks like me who are happy with a two year old model for a few hundred less. much worse, those piles of Payless shoes that aren't even worth the effort to pass on as they start to fall apart after a few months of use.
and even the things that really are better than the year before, we don't "need" them. there can be no need for something we never had before. sure, some new things are desirable in a practical and meaningful way, things like antibiotics and telephony in general, for example. and we should keep improving things. not just for more pixels but because that added detail turns a teenager's toy into a medical diagnostic tool. and not just because we should only have to charge our phone once very 3 days but because that same battery advancement will translate to electric cars with a 400 mile range.
but overall, we don't need a new anything every year, or even every few years. and our lives will be exactly the same whether we have the new model on the day it comes out or we are still using some scratched up thing with a loose button from two years ago.
but everything is on at least an annual cycle. and every year we are encouraged to buy the new one. or in the case of clothing, every couple months. brands/retailers such as H&M, Old Navy, Uniqlo... have reinvented shopping for clothes. their products are cheap, and cheaply made. they are designed to be continuously replaced, at least quarterly. and they have to be replaced as they quickly fall apart. and people buy it, all day long.
no one needs to buy an iPhone every year, but many do. plenty of people have the money so they will spend regardless. and many who don't have the money, will spend what they have. how many dollar stores are out there selling things that can barely fill their purpose when brand new, and trash within a few months. but people keep shopping there because all they can spare is a few bucks and shopping is what we do. getting our fix. and many will spend what they don't have, being constantly in debt to have something they really shouldn't and mostly don't need.
at least the serial up-graders of expensive tech usually down-cycle their products to folks like me who are happy with a two year old model for a few hundred less. much worse, those piles of Payless shoes that aren't even worth the effort to pass on as they start to fall apart after a few months of use.
and even the things that really are better than the year before, we don't "need" them. there can be no need for something we never had before. sure, some new things are desirable in a practical and meaningful way, things like antibiotics and telephony in general, for example. and we should keep improving things. not just for more pixels but because that added detail turns a teenager's toy into a medical diagnostic tool. and not just because we should only have to charge our phone once very 3 days but because that same battery advancement will translate to electric cars with a 400 mile range.
but overall, we don't need a new anything every year, or even every few years. and our lives will be exactly the same whether we have the new model on the day it comes out or we are still using some scratched up thing with a loose button from two years ago.
With all due respect... unless this stuff happens en masse... they're surely not going to feel your pressure. Nice try though.
Apple stock is down and they aren't selling as many iPhone 7's as their stockholders would like so I can't be alone.
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Note 7's display is VERY sharp and you can't see pixels or grain. Check one out in person before claiming it's the reason why Apple still uses IPS. I still can't see pixels even when I lower the resolution on my Note 7 to 1080p.
Anyone else remember back in the day when we'd rush out to spend hundreds of pounds on the new Nokia. Which 90% of the time was exactly the same as the old Nokia but in a different shell? Or when we spent a ridiculous amount of cash on the first Razr because it was thin, for the time and not much else? Hell my very first cellphone, long before even things like SMS were even thought of cost a ton and it did, well nothing but make calls. If you can count a 20 minute call time making "calls" 
They may be a little more expensive, though not much comparatively when you factor in time. But I can't help but feel I get a little more for my money these days.
They may be a little more expensive, though not much comparatively when you factor in time. But I can't help but feel I get a little more for my money these days.
I've got a 6 and by my reckoning getting a 7 on a phone plan and selling my 6 now, and the seven in a year and buying the 8 is going to work out roughly the same as if I kept the 6 and tried to sell it in a years time and get on a new plan on the 8. Phone plans in Aus can still offer value, and despite my initial disinterest in the iPhone 7, there'll be the marker for the 7 in a year as there always is with iPhones
Your one lost sale wont do that. Its takes masses. They sell more now overseas than here.