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Sound like a fact to me. I just saw the expose on Jobs and Apple's corporate malfeasance which includes slave labor in China and billions in offshore account aka double Irish. It would not surprise me to find out that apple stole technology and violated copyrights.

Knowing what I know now I can't see myself buying Apple products.

Ok
 
Companies don't sue, if they think their chance of winning is low and their chance of winning is low when they are wrong. Besides, they most definitely have proof of Apple meeting with them and examining their tech in detail, otherwise they wouldn't have mentioned it
Now now.. Do you have any physical proof of this? Were you physically present in these meetings? I'm sure you were not unless you work for this company. Once you have documented evidence, come back here to troll more. ;)
 
Sounds about right for Apple, they obviously thought it was cheaper to steal the technology as opposed to buying Valencell, has anyone shouted patent troll yet? Completely missing the statements that Apple had several meetings to look at Valencells invented and patented technology.

Take them to the cleaners Valencell as you would need to have proof of those meetings and those meeting contents with Apple to take this to court.

Then why did they not do the same with all of the other companies they purchased? My guess is that Apple saw what Valencell was offering and felt that it wasn't unique enough to be differentiated from what everyone else was doing anyway.
 
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Let me guess, you read about the Xerox deal on Apple loyalists' blog, which was made up by Apple fans for Apple fans.
Any actual proof about the deal? Other than from Apple fanatics' blog.

Read the Steve Jobs bio by Walter Isaacson. Also, it's widely available on the internet, if you cared to search. Here are some links: The New Yorker, Fortune, Cnet, LA Times
 
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that was 5 years after the Mac was released -- Xerox saw the success of the Mac, got greedy, and decided they wanted a bigger piece of the pie than the mere $1MM they had traded originally (since they were too dumb to realize GUI was the future).

this is old history.

further, Apple added a ton of stuff resulting in Mac OS being a much better OS. read from the guys in the room:

http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?story=On_Xerox,_Apple_and_Progress.txt

The Mac is successful now. But according to the chart I have it took until 1990 to outsell the Commodore 64.
 
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Clearly Apple stole their technology,. They have done this before with Xerox and countless other companies.
Now let Apple apologists, defend Apple

You forgot to add tags for <sarcasm>. There will be some people without any knowledge of computing history who take your post at face value. And there will be others who will read your "Now let Apple apologists defend Apple" as a nasty a hominem attack against anyone wanting to correct your post, instead of being taken as the light humour it is intended to be.

Edit: After reading some other posts of yours, my apologies. You were not sarcastic at all, but clueless. Obviously that makes the "nasty ad hominem attack" now a correct judgement of your post.
 
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You forgot to add tags for <sarcasm>. There will be some people without any knowledge of computing history who take your post at face value. And there will be others who will read your "Now let Apple apologists defend Apple" as a nasty a hominem attack against anyone wanting to correct your post, instead of being taken as the light humour it is intended to be.

Now it's YOU who forgot the <sarcasm> tags!
 
Companies don't sue, if they think their chance of winning is low and their chance of winning is low when they are wrong. Besides, they most definitely have proof of Apple meeting with them and examining their tech in detail, otherwise they wouldn't have mentioned it

A lot of their complaint is nonsense. "Apple led us to believe that they would buy our technology". Nonsense. They were in negotiations. They needed to prove that they had the best technology, and apparently they didn't. Companies are supposed to be run by adults, who can distinguish between "we are interested in your technology" and "we will buy your technology". When Apple signs the dotted line, then you may say that you are led to believe they will buy your tech, not before.

And sadly, sadly another post that misunderstands the genius of Picasso (whom Jobs was quoting). That reminds me, they are quoting an ex-CEO who died years before any of the events...

Of course they have proof of meetings. And of course Apple examined their technology. And then Apple decided that it wasn't worth the money. That's normal business.
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Sound like a fact to me. I just saw the expose on Jobs and Apple's corporate malfeasance which includes slave labor in China...

I could ask you for either evidence or an apology, but I won't bother.
 
Sound like a fact to me. I just saw the expose on Jobs and Apple's corporate malfeasance which includes slave labor in China and billions in offshore account aka double Irish. It would not surprise me to find out that apple stole technology and violated copyrights.

Knowing what I know now I can't see myself buying Apple products.
Excellent! More for the rest of us. Thank you for your sacrifice.

Honestly - what are you talking about? Apple isn't allowed to have their products manufactured at the same factories that other companies use? Apple is somehow responsible for how Chinese manufacturers run their business? What? Apple is the bad guy for following the tax laws as they are written? They are just supposed to pay extra taxes to make people feel better?

I'm always amazed that Apple goes through all the effort that they do for civil rights, using renewable energy, and numerous other programs that add a lot more cost to their bottom line that they don't have to, yet people make comments like this...
 
It is not that Apple hasn't lost in a patent suit (where it was accused of infringing) but they also have won such suits. The mere existence of a suit thus isn't a proof for either outcome. It just proofs that the two legal teams see things differently.

I have no idea what that has to do with my comment?

Then why did they not do the same with all of the other companies they purchased? My guess is that Apple saw what Valencell was offering and felt that it wasn't unique enough to be differentiated from what everyone else was doing anyway.

Yet as I stated, Valencell feels it has enough proof to take Apple to court for stealing it's inventions. Or do you feel they just felt like randomly taking them to court? Like a patent troll only they aren't as according to this article it is THEIR technology they showed to Apple. Apple hasn't purchased Valencell, and we will see if they did indeed feel it was cheaper to just steal technology. As I said it wouldn't surprise me as they need pretty good evidence, and it's not the first time Apple has stolen.
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Because Fitbit doesn't have the store of cash that Apple has. Follow. The. Money.

You mean despite the fact the story states they have also gone after Fitbit...

Read the story from a none Apple centric website:

http://www.kait8.com/story/30882469...ngement-suit-against-apple-inc-and-fitbit-inc
 
Let me guess, you read about the Xerox deal on Apple loyalists' blog, which was made up by Apple fans for Apple fans.
Any actual proof about the deal? Other than from Apple fanatics' blog.

Interesting that you feel that YOU are entitled to make an assertion without providing ANY proof; but you demand that anyone who disagrees with you must provide absolute proof in order to support their counter-argument. This is typical behavior of a troll.

Although I doubt you will accept, or even bother to read, the following links, or even acknowledge them as valid proof (requiring a far greater burden from others than you require of yourself), I'm going to humor you with the following links.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xerox
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Apple_Inc.
http://www.fool.com/news/foth/2000/foth000918.htm
http://www.mac-history.net/computer-history/2012-03-22/apple-and-xerox-parc
 
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The lawsuit is very straightforward. The main claims are that the Apple Watch infringes on Valencell's patents - the infringement is described in detail in each count of the lawsuit. Unless someone here has technical knowledge of the technology involved, it is not useful to comment on the validity of the claims.

The crazy part is that by accepting Valencell's devices to examine, Apple clearly learned from Valencell's technology - this could support the argument that Apple acted willfully. If the court rules that Apple did willfully infringe, the damages could be severe.
 
So these guys waited to see which wearable companies are most successful and then sue them?

They will not get a cent!
 
Sound like a fact to me. I just saw the expose on Jobs and Apple's corporate malfeasance which includes slave labor in China and billions in offshore account aka double Irish. It would not surprise me to find out that apple stole technology and violated copyrights.

Knowing what I know now I can't see myself buying Apple products.

Care to enlighten us with the name of a company whose products you would buy instead? A tech company that doesn’t use “slave” labor and doesn’t have billions in offshore accounts? Those two qualifiers pretty much eliminates every other tech company on the planet. Google and Samsung are out. They both “steal technology and violate copyrights", have been sued for such, and have lost. All the Android OEMs use the same “slave" labor Apple does. So who, pray tell, do you buy your tech from? Hmmmm?
 
I almost believed this company was saying the truth, but than he said..the same Steve stole Xerox ideas, stupid man actually used that line in court? here's the judge response: Mr Jobs stole Xerox ideas? do you have any proves of this? we're you there when it happened? stupid man response: no, but i read it from Wikipedia
 
Clearly Apple stole their technology,. They have done this before with Xerox and countless other companies.
Now let Apple apologists, defend Apple
Another 25 year old fool that doesn't know the first thing about tech or the history of tech. Hang it up. It well documented Apple paid Xerox for information they (a bunch of talking business heads) felt had no value.
 
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