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BioShock Infinite Coming to Mac on August 29th
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With the exception that the 680MX is not really a mobile part. I haven't seen any notebooks with it. Dissipating 100W TDP is not really easy on a notebook. The 680MX would be best described as a low power solution.
Like I said, these cards overclock ridiculously. 6800 3DMarks in stock form, up to 8400 3DMarks in overclocked form. That is fantastic for a system that came out in December, 2012. Again, this is a minor overclock, and not a I-hope-it-makes-it-through-the-benchmark-without-crashing overclock.
Also, did you see the size of the iMac? Now look at the 770 or 780 or even the 660 and 670/680 cards? See how huge they are? You don't think it's impressive that Apple fit an entire computer in there, all running with ONE FAN? Way to ignore that information!
It only plays one or two games? lol. Tell that to my Steam library, because you're simply wrong.
And for reference, here's my iMac, built in 2012, running 3DMark 2011:
i7 3770, Geforce MX 680GTX
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/6951603
And here's my buddy I referenced earlier, who just spent $1100 on just a motherboard, CPU, GPU, and RAM in mid 2013:
i7 4770K, Geforce 770GTX
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/6951444
Clearly his is faster, yes. But are you going to tell me the iMac can't be used as a gaming machine?
I can run FC3 at 1440p at 60fps, but not at the highest settings. I'm actually pretty picky about framerates, and run FRAPS to make sure I'm at 60fps solid. Far Cry 3 is one of very few special cases where I need to tone down things a bit, absolutely. 1080p at 60fps is simple, though. Crysis 3 is another matter, of course.
I'm really not sure what the arguing about is, though. The high-end iMac is as a matter of FACT an excellent gaming machine. I should know, because I actually OWN one, and enjoy hassle/crash-free gaming on an almost daily basis with it.
Do we always want faster machines? Why not?! I'll take a 780GTX in an iMac. But to go around saying that the current iMac is not a gaming PC (among its other traits) is sheer nonsense.
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What Macs will be able to play this at full rez (or at least 1080p) at highest settings?
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I used to feel this way but eventually came to the decision that I didn't really care about the platform I played on as long as I was able to play interesting games.
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I used to feel this way but eventually came to the decision that I didn't really care about the platform I played on as long as I was able to play interesting games.
The MX 680GTX iMac can easily run Bioshock Infinite at highest settings at 60fps @1080p. For 1440p at 60fps, I had to tweak a couple of things down (AA is a system killer, for example, but not needed at 1440p).
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No need to apologize to someone who has either never played Bioshock or doesn't remember one of the most compelling things about the game. Either way, calling you lazy was typical of the rudeness internet anonymity has spawned.
Your comment was +1 btw.
Sorry, I meant which Mac will be able to play the Mac version of Infinite at its highest rez?
Now THAT'S a good question. I can't speak for Infinite, but I've been less than impressed with most games running on Mac, really. Some games run "OK," and others... not so much.
I still say if you're serious about playing games on your Mac, install Windows 7 on it which is the easiest thing in the world to do (aside from breathing). I can pretty much guarantee your frame rates in Windows 7 will be far, far higher than in OS X.
I'm not interested in gaming on the Mac. I just wondered if the situation regarding drivers had improved in the last year or two (I guess not!). Last time I ran a benchmark comparing Mac and Windows performance, Windows had twice the performance.
If they are coming out with it anyway, why not at the same time as the pc version. If they did, more than 20% would be gaming on osx.
I assure you, most of us got and enjoyed the reference, and all the Bioshock fans in the house said w00t!
Just make sure you don't pick #77 . . .
I think this is crazy and I don't understand why Macs are not good at games. Macs are much more uniform than Windows computers. It should be extremely easy to make a game for Mac because there is not a huge variety of hardware to test for like in case of Windows. It's just like iOS vs Android. It's easier to make and test a game for iOS than for Android. Or the PS3 and XBox vs Windows, again a dedicated inferior console can ran a game better than a PC. Macs should ran games better than Windows computers.
I wouldn't say it's that bad in OS X, (and it really depends on the game) but the difference is that in OS X the frame rate drops lower when there's a lot if action/calculation required. If the game isn't too demanding it can run very well in OS X. In fact, on my computer the max frame rate goes higher in World of Warcraft on OS X on the same setting as in Windows. But in Windows it doesn't go down as low. In the same ”heavy” area I tested I had 40 FPS in Windows. but only about 20 FPS in OS X, so in that sense it's true it's twice as good in Windows.
Let's hope OS X Mavericks (10.9) changes things for the better when it comes to gaming on OS X (although I doubt it – I have been saying the same thing for several major OS X versions now…)
Is it just me or did Infinite seem to to be named wrong? It is a short game for all the hype it got before initial console release.
The question is, does it stay on 60fps? I'm doubting it does. Especially in OS X I'm expecting it to drop lower quite often.
The "catalyst" part installs, the Drivers don't, they say no supported hardware installed and fall back to the BootCamp drivers. So you end up with the ATI control center, but the Bootcamp driver.
Also the ATI drivers Identify the iMac 6770 as a 6740, non-mobile part for some reason.