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3rd time, you've yet to prove that SwiftKey 4 does what BB10 can do. What did you mean by "I puc canviar (catalan) = and I can change" ... meaning you can change that particular language setting itself or that the spelling you can change after a typo I highlighted from you post on the previous page? Please clarify as I've not used swiftkey 3/4. You're rebuttal is lost on me so try to be clear politely as I'm not getting that SwiftKey can allow you to ...

1. set 3 languages,
2. allow you to type in those languages freely without the need to "switch" languages or switch input languages during typing. Meaning you can type each single word in any of the 3 languages have spell check done, proper accents etc (as that is the nature of languages; not trying to add more here).
3. allow the correct context of each language typed by you to be done on the fly without the need to be edited after or during typing.

This is what BB10 can do.

Perhaps the mix of languages has confused you:

Then I must be using BB10 because I have configured English, castellano y català in my SwiftKey app and I can change between them without having to "switch" the language
 
And then some. Apple mocked Big Brother. How times have changed.

I know it. Apple hit it big by making a relatively cheap piece of hardware designed to appeal to everyone from soccer moms to doctors. MS, on the other hand, is releasing expensive hardware designed mostly to cater to the creative and business sectors...

...it's like everything has gone topsy turvy.
 
You really need to define your "current era of smartphones" statement to be clear.
The kind people are now buying, as opposed to PalmPilots/etc., the past era of devices which no one buys anymore.
Apple's innovation was adding a highly usable web browser (Opera/etc. on Treos wasn't for most normal people) and a music player with easy access to a vast amount of actually legal content.
App Store?
- BINGO pure Apple innovation!
PilotGear/PalmGear had a big mobile app store for PalmPilot apps back in '97. Independent PalmOS app devs were making millions. Many have moved along to iOS/Android. And the jailbreakers may have opened their iPhone App Store before Apple.
 
The “Apple is no Longer Innovating” Meme

This has been bothering me for a while.

In 2007 Apple released the iPhone. Three years later, Apple released the iPad. Apple’s competitors are now just catching up in terms of having comparable products. They are now getting desperate – Samsung just released the Galaxy S4 with an even bigger screen – Apple cut them off and released the biggest cellphone of all with the iPad mini a year ago. Kidding aside, is that all they’ve got? An even bigger phone? You don’t need better technology to do that – Apple never released the original iPad because it was too big. Presumably they waited to release the iPhone until they could get it small enough. These super big phones are an aberration, a fad there will wear off in short time.

The point is simple – who isn’t innovating? Apple’s competitors have just begun finishing their multi-year catch-up to Apple – was that innovating? Nokia gave up and went for Windows 8 (admittedly Microsoft was rather bold with Windows 8, but it has it’s own issues.) Samsung has done the best they could replicating the iPhone experience, while benefiting from Google’s Android OS. Android is in a perpetual state of “finally as good/mature as iOS” by the way – heard the same thing with 3.0, and now 4.0. BlackBerry is basically irrelevant, and breathing it’s last gulp with it’s too-little-too-late Blackberry 10.

So again – who isn’t innovating? Apple has the most mature OS, the best engineered (overall) devices, the best profit margins, the best line-up, the best eco-system, and the list goes-on. Now we are told that since they haven’t come up with anything new (iPad mini aside) since 2010, they are slipping in innovation. Well, that is just pure rubbish. The truth is that Apple’s competitors have not only never innovated, they can’t innovate. They just follow the Apple road-map. And they have now reached the end of the road.

Apple’s competitors strictly rely on Apple to provide the industry conceptual R&D and overall road-map. Now that they are more or less caught-up, it has become patently obvious that they have no idea what to do. And so now they whisper, shout, and yell that Apple is no longer innovating. They are all now pushing the new meme in town – Apple has dropped it’s game. But the truth is that they are desperate for some guidance. Anything, anything to get some guidance from Apple on what to do next. Well, it won’t work. Apple has always kept it’s cards hidden until the last moment, and they know it. Apple’s board doesn’t even know what Apple is doing. And Samsung/BlackBerry/et al all know Apple is working on something. Not just something, but the next thing. And they know it’s going to hurt.

If they don’t get a head start it will take them years to ramp up the photocopiers to catch-up like they did last round. There will first be nothing, and then a new round of “iPad Killer” PlayBook style failures, and finally after 2-4 years they will have caught up. Apple knows this, and they are playing a brilliant game at torturing the competition. We all know the famous line “It’s a bird! It’s a plane! It’s Superman!” – now think of the recent rumours coming out from the Apple scene: “It’s a TV! It’s a watch! it’s a …” Perfect head-fakes. Or maybe there will be a watch or TV, and it will have served as reverse-reverse psychology? Either way, it doesn’t matter. Apple’s competitors are astray and they know it.

Apple’s stock has had a round-trip from early 2012 to now. Good. Apple can buy back it’s stock for half the price of the 2012 peak. Apple’s competitors, shameless pretenders that they are, constantly proclaim that being stopped from copying Apple is anti-innovative all while decrying Apple for no longer innovating while they increase the size of their screens for the umpteenth time and declare final victory every time. When Apple releases the next big thing they have been working on for years, Samsung will experience another bitter-sweet moment. Apple will have out-boxed them again, but at least they will know what they are supposed to do.

http://dailybarrage.com/2013/03/18/the-apple-is-no-longer-innovating-meme/
 
Innovation is NOT in the design of the hardware my friend.

But:
screen technology has heat sensors that allow the cpu+OS to learn where you type each character for improved accuracy over time. Not all of us have finely detailed finger prints (some of us have them quite worn down from construction, moving, etc).

Virtual keyboard is the best in the industry ... no longer switching a language to type. you do this 1 time in settings for 3 languages and then type and go! completing sentences, phrases has proper context and structure with each language used in conjunction between them all. No other OS does this ... not even OSX, Linux, or Windows.

^ that ALONE my friend is innovation!!

People could care less about that innovation :rolleyes:
 
If you think the iOS is "stale", what about the iMac OS-X? It's got essentially the SAME look as Macs did back in the 80s.

Have you ever used a Mac from the 80s? Clearly not. The differences are vast, and the look is not the same. I would know, as I used 80s and early 90s Macs in school all the time.
 
Blah Blah Blah,

All hot air from a buffoon.

Seriously the reason there is no 'innovation' is technology associated with mobiles is reaching it current climax for now. Screens are high resolution enough for your eyes. Cameras are bloody good and don't really need more mega pixels, app stores are at their needed capacity. Battery life is good and balanced with cpu gpu which are beyond all games could ever need. There is nothing left that needs a spec boost. New features are software or hardware tweaks, there is no magical next formula or new product that we actually need right now that the tech can deliver.

You only have to look at the galaxy s4, packed with bloat and poor gimmick features that will disappear.

The phone is not changing anytime soon in the next couple of years.

I'm afraid he is very wrong about apple. They are constantly looking at all tech and progress products when they are ready to.

It's like this guy thinks blackberry actually has some design kudos! come on BB are crap especially designs. He sounds just like that fraud james dyson who makes overpriced hoovers and compares his design ethic to that of apple's, yet he makes gourdy vacuums at a huge premium that are the most useless things ever created.

no bb can think again about innovation and reconsider the current market
 
apple had BETTER update ios and change it around! i am so sick of iOS right now. sure its functional but it is also outdated and boring. its too limited. if apple were to actually change the look and overall function of iOS (like a windows 7 to windows 8 kind of thing) and they were to do it correctly, sales would skyrocket. i know i would rush out to get as much as i can.
 
So, three years from now, Apple will be on iOS 8, looking at iOS 9, and pushing an uber reliable mobile OS and hardware. In the meantime, It wouldn't be difficult to assume that iOS is being rebuilt from top to bottom with a revamped UI as the next generation Apple mobile OS.

Then Apple will be the "fresh" OS and the others will be "stale" and "boring".

There's no odds in living on the bleeding edge, and good luck to Blackberry.

I am sad to passionately disagree with you.

Everyone else is constantly innovating and doing fresh things (Except Black Berry). Each iteration of Android brings some really great features in the OS, and enhanced experience and features depending on the hardware of the device. Then the oem can further add features. Look at the S4.

IOS is stale (I went Android because I haven't felt like I've had a new phone in years as the design is stagnate too and just more of the same). Apple is lacking in hardware as well... Look at everything that they just jammed into the very svelt and light Galaxy S4.... Apple should hate themselves. They only just got LTE into a device...

Passbook? Laughable... Where the tech for the software? In an Android phone....

Apple needs to up the ante on software and hardware.... they are now 3 years behind
 
So it's only about higher ppi? So the company that has the highest ppi in their display automatically has the best display?



The 326 PPI of the iphone 5 already has enough pixels that the eye cannot disatain or see pixels. If you can't see the pixels, why have a higher PPI display? Weather it's 326 PPI or 480PPI. I tried to look for the pixels and can't find any.

Contrast ratio, black level a better indicator or display technology, not PPI.

Just like Apple marketed the 'retina display' at the time. But at the time it was the only high smartphone PPI display on the market.

If people cannot see past a certain point is the phone only wasting precious graphics processing power and energy consumption to enable such a high pixel density? Certainly. Guaranteed. It's all about the Marketing plain and simple.

If you can't make something better don't do it. Period. That is the mantra Apple lives by, that is why they are in the position they are in. No other reason. Samsung, can't make it better, add a bigger screen. Can't improve your software or ease of use, add useless features like, 'hover finger'. Lol.

There is no 'innovation' in the Galaxy S4. Zero. What new feature is a 'innovation? Name one.

Here's hoping that Apple doens't play that game.

IGZO is innovation, not a higher PPI screen that you cannot see. Now if you can cram more pixels without sacrificing battery life, go ahead. I am all for it. But to add more PPI, and then add a bigger battery to compensate for it is not innovation.

http://www.infoworld.com/d/mobile-t...bleeding-edge-lcd-tech-the-next-iphone-211132

From the article:

"The third reason is cost. Apple currently uses an LCD technology called low-temperature polysilicon (LTPS), which provides sharper images and better motion smoothness than the standard LED- and OLED-lit LCDs used in most other mobile devices. If you ever wondered why Apple's LCD screens are so much nicer and more natural than the competition's, LTPS is the reason. But LTPS is very expensive, where as IGZO -- with even better display -- is not. Using IGZO could boost Apple's profits and perhaps ease the path to a lower-cost iPhone for developing countries, a rumor perpetually surrounding Apple."



http://www.bluebugle.org/2013/01/retina-display-smartphones.html#sthash.Hn3Qmd5X.BZewsWVR.dpbs

http://gizmodo.com/5960191/techs-new-most-meaningless-spec-ppi

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/130051-lgs-new-440-ppi-display-is-way-too-much-of-a-good-thing

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This has been bothering me for a while.

Exactly this guy gets it. Couldn't have said it any better myself. ;)
 
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a little bit of the pot calling the kettle black, but I actually agree with him - the iOS interface needs an overhaul. 5 years.. is a long time -
 
It's thinner, lighter, more powerful, and has a larger screen.

Lol. That isn't innovation. What did they come up with that usefull to the consumer? What new feature. Hover finger? When you look away the display pauses? Really? Is that innovation?

What would be innovation for them is not to make the phone out of the same thing my daughters barbie house is made out of. That would be innovation for them. Not hover finger, or pauseing video when you look away.

I don't want barbie and ken to have something in common with my new $600 new flagship phone. Pseuso metal on the sides? Really? How faux is that? Is that where their innovation lies.
 
Say what you want fanboys... Apple is headed down the same path as Rim.

I kinda miss my Bold 9650, texting on a keyboard was and still is far more functional than using a touch interface on a screen. The only reason I left BB for android cause RIM wasn't doing anything with the OS!!! and the only reason I left android for apple was because of the battery life which is in fact.. the only reason I'm staying with apple

Apple better get it together... the only reason Apple do so well with the iphone is well.. it's has a cult like following so every iteration of the iphone is guaranteed 30+ million sales but if they continue on the path that its following... that 30+ million is gonna dwindle, this goes for android, RIM, Windows, etc
 
Lol. That isn't innovation. What did they come up with that usefull to the consumer? What new feature. Hover finger? When you look away the display pauses? Really? Is that innovation?

Those seemed to be pretty awesome features when everyone was gushing about the iPhone 5 around here. Which was basically the iPhone 4, cept, you know, thinner, lighter, more powerful, and had a larger screen.
 
Apple better get it together... the only reason Apple do so well with the iphone is well.. it's has a cult like following so every iteration of the iphone is guaranteed 30+ million sales but if they continue on the path that its following... that 30+ million is gonna dwindle, this goes for android, RIM, Windows, etc

People buy iPhones because they want something they know will work without hassle and has excellent support in case something goes wrong. There are some people that will buy anything Apple but the same could be said for any brand.
 
Every generation iPhone sells more than the previous... hardy downward slide.

Say what you want fanboys... Apple is headed down the same path as Rim.

I kinda miss my Bold 9650, texting on a keyboard was and still is far more functional than using a touch interface on a screen. The only reason I left BB for android cause RIM wasn't doing anything with the OS!!! and the only reason I left android for apple was because of the battery life which is in fact.. the only reason I'm staying with apple

Apple better get it together... the only reason Apple do so well with the iphone is well.. it's has a cult like following so every iteration of the iphone is guaranteed 30+ million sales but if they continue on the path that its following... that 30+ million is gonna dwindle, this goes for android, RIM, Windows, etc

Isn't it funny that you preferred a real keyboard but that wasn't important enough to stay loyal to BB? Then "only" battery life got you from Android... could be be you just like change and justify it for a trivial option issue?

Too many people on hear are only interested in the latest and greatest. That's fine. I love new toys too BUT most regular people like consistency that just works. That's what Apple does! You can all holla as much as you like.

What I would like to see here is a LIST of what's missing or not working on iPhone that everyone thinks needs to be done in iOS7. Then Apple can address those issues.

My only issue is App organisation: I seem to have filled all the screens and it takes ages to scroll through them to find what I want. Then again, maybe I'm just too lazy to organise apps into meaningful folders. So I'm happy to take the blame! At least we got folders a little while back. Notifications work. Multitasking seems have died off (remember the "drama" that caused when everyone was outraged iOS couldn't do multitasking?). Not every function people think they want actually works on a pocketable, portable device.

Change for the sake of change just sucks: I still keep playing with Win8 in stores. I don't get the advantage. They just changed everything without providing me any end benefit. I would prefer a new laptop to have Win7 on it to this forced on me shift. If the iPhone interface works for most people, I see no reason for Apple to massively change it. They'll tinker, they'll add in features but the overall experience is a comfortable, usable environment for millions of users.

And at it's core, it's a phone. If it makes calls, does SMS and email, keeps contacts handy then it pretty well meets 99% of what people want a phone to do.
 
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