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At this point I am locked into the apple ecosystem and I am not willing to rebuy all of my apps to run them on an android or blackberry based device.



Compare the way IOS and Android handle CAPLOCK. In IOS double clicking the cap lock key turns it blue to indicate you are in capital lock mode. I just read recently that on Android, entering CAPLOCK mode turns all of the characters on your virtual keyboard into capital letters and exiting CAPLOCK mode turns all of the characters into lower case characters. Why didn't apple do this feature first? When will apple copy Android and incorporate this feature into IOS?

Another feature I like of Android, is the text wrap when you enlarge a column of text on a webpage. Apple's 'Reader' option is a nice (kind of) equivalent but fails to see the story on too many webpages.
 
iOS has gotten stale. A lot of us have been complaining prior to iOS 5. Yes it just works but a lot of it doesn't just work as well as it could.

1. Why is it always 73 and sunny?
2. Why is multitasking done so poorly?
3. Settings- should have items opened by 1 step not 3 or 4.
4. Remove worthless apple apps or at least apple should update them so that end users want to use them
5. System defaults-please let me choose which mapping system I want to use
6. Please stop the Facebook integration-what a waste of programming time and I use Facebook.
7. Why do I need to leave my current app (see a stupid switching animation) to reply to a text in 2013?

Those are just a few examples of things I'd like to see improved.
 
This is silly... the company that got it's butt kicked in lack of innovation is now pointing fingers and yet... what qualifies this response? Did the iPhone stop selling all of a sudden and hoards of customers are migrating to BB?

I didn't think so. :rolleyes:
 
Sage remarks from someone in a company that experienced massive decline over the perception (whether you think it was real or just imagined) that they weren't cutting edge. I don't think Apple is there at this point at all, but it didn't take RIM long to tumble.
 
Came here just to say the same, though, I admit, it wouldn't be as well written as yours. xD

But you'd be as completely Wrong, as he is.

Blackberry of the last 5 years, absolutely fell off the face of the map, with the same hardware, and OS releases over and over again. Their failure to even follow the pack was their biggest downfall though, not their failure to innovate.

you can be a "follower" and still be financially viable. Blackberry didn't even do this. (I've been a Blackberry user from OS5,6 and 7 and BB10).

However, To say "RIM never innovated" would be delusional and completely incorrect.

There is a very long list of Firsts RIM brought to the table long before Apple was in the phone business. RIM was the first to have the secure front to back platform they currently are the only ones doing. They were one of, if not the first to institute push email and notifications. First to have a "notification centre / unified message centre". one of the first for two way communication in a pager. Their early phones were some of the first to have email and the ability to expand with 3rd party applications, ushering in the era of "smartphone", there is a Very long list of thigns we take for granted in modern smartphones that RIM was the pioneer of.

Blackberry (RIM) were essentially, and known as the defacto Smartphone of the mid 00's. They led the way and were the "springboard" of which the current smartphone ideal originated. Beleiving that they did no innovation, is absolutely just brain dead ignorant to history
 
Apple's downfall will be its pig-headed insistence on dumbing-down the interface to the lowest common denominator in society - the people are so pathetic they can't figure out how to use their smartphone.

The dunce-cap goes to the kindergarten filing system that segments each iCloud area so that the child user can only file their files within the app, because Apple deems us so incapable of having a mixed up file system that we might get confused.

Apple's past genius used to be making complex things simple to do, rather than preventing us from doing complex things, and restricting us to doing simple things. That is not the same as making complex things easy. There is a difference between being elegantly simple vs being dumbed down.

The sad thing is, Jon Ive probably was part of the team that started the dumbing down, so I await with a level of skepticism to see what changes he makes to iOS.
 
iOS has gotten stale. A lot of us have been complaining prior to iOS 5. Yes it just works but a lot of it doesn't just work as well as it could.

1. Why is it always 73 and sunny?
2. Why is multitasking done so poorly?
3. Settings- should have items opened by 1 step not 3 or 4.
4. Remove worthless apple apps or at least apple should update them so that end users want to use them
5. System defaults-please let me choose which mapping system I want to use
6. Please stop the Facebook integration-what a waste of programming time and I use Facebook.
7. Why do I need to leave my current app (see a stupid switching animation) to reply to a text in 2013?

Those are just a few examples of things I'd like to see improved.

Agreed, though I don't find the Facebook integration troubling--just turn it off. The rest of your list is why I jailbreak.
 
iOS has gotten stale. A lot of us have been complaining prior to iOS 5. Yes it just works but a lot of it doesn't just work as well as it could.

iOS could use a new keyboard too... i.e. swype input. SD card/USB support would be fantastic too.


Agreed, though I don't find the Facebook integration troubling--just turn it off. The rest of your list is why I jailbreak.

Yes, but jailbreaking should not be necessary.

Apple is in fact making it HARDER to jailbreak than not. Perhaps Apple should release an official unlock tool like they do on Android. Basically once you unlock, your warranty is foregone.
 
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Agreed - he knows what he's talking about, RIM was almost dead. Let's see if they can make the turnaround through innovation.
 
Innovation is....

...Thinking up new ways of living is innovation.
...changing the wallpaper on the place you live already. That's not innovation.

There's a lack of clarity in these discussions.
The smartphone can only do so many things:

  • It can communicate with voice and internet.
  • Do photography.
  • Do media.
  • Assist in navigation.
  • And run custom programs and games.

That's it folks. That list isn't going to change very much.

Moving the buttons round, adding widgets, or making more complicated interfaces is just wallpaper. It isn't innovation. And in many cases adding complexity actually makes the products worse.

Real innovation would be adding to that list. Adding a major new reason to need a smartphone.

I suspect there is only one more major application left. And that will be a robust solution to the identity problem.

I seriously doubt whether Blackberry will be the company to crack it.
 
It's hard to quote "innovate" as this dude is saying, when you build a product right from the start. OK yeah iOS could learn some things from it's new competition, but the core of how it works is right and everything else will just be tweaking the edges.
Innovation does not mean changing how a successful product works just to make a change.
 
cretins

I'm not taking seriously anything that guy in the photo is saying.... Dude doesn't look too cutting edge.
 
ios is simple and perfect. and - it sells.
blackberry lost a lot ground in the last years.
my question is: whata fu** is he talking about?

loool
 
I spent 2 months teaching my Grandma how to use her iPad, and she still gets confused on occasion. iOS being so easy to use even a completely computer illiterate person can just pick it up and use it like an old pro is a myth.

Maybe that says more about your Grandma. My parents are in their mid 70s, and my dad especially is the most luddite, tech hating, non-handy, person I've ever known. But both took to iOS like a baby to a pacifier. My mom has both an iPhone 4S and iPad 3. My dad has an original iPad. Where I use to have to field Mac questions from them constantly, they never (hallelujah!) call me with iOS questions.
 
I agree

It is either the absence of Jobs or the lull in innovation coincided with the absence of Jobs. Both are equally bad.
 
As far as the iOS interface goes, you can only do so much with a certain medium. I'd rather have something that works, than something "new" that is cumbersome and less practical/intuitive. (Remeber OS X Lion and the new save function???) The iPhone is great as is, but Apple could certainly improve on some of their services: better maps and voice control. Instant text (improved) and speech translation would be nice though.
 
I agree and it sucks. I'll be giving up my iPhone 5 for the S4. If the iOS7 is interesting the phone will come out the cabinet.

But any of you who seriously think that iOS isn't stale and lacking and the iPhone isn't stagnating are truly lying to yourselves.

S beam should have been an iPhone feature from the start.

I love tech, and i feel it just so happened to be Apples decades, and that might be over.

S-beam? Seriously? Samsung is selling us decades old "beaming" technology and "bumping" our phones to share information while Apple is light years ahead doing the same thing transparently, wirelessly, and in the background.
 
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In an interview in The Australian Financial Review (via AllThingsD), Blackberry CEO Thorsten Heins describes iOS as an outdated user interface, claiming that the iPhone is at risk of being replaced in the popularity stakes due to a lack of innovation.

Heins has firsthand experience of this phenomenon, as BlackBerry has received significant criticism over its lack of innovation as its worldwide smartphone market share has fallen from nearly 20% to just 3.5% over the past three years. The company is hoping for a revival of its fortunes with the Blackberry Z10, which is launching in Australia and the United States in the coming days following debuts in several other countries in recent weeks.

Apple design chief Jonathan Ive late last year took over responsibility for software as well as hardware design following the departure of former iOS head Scott Forstall, generating great interest in the extent to which Apple may update the user interface in iOS 7.

Article Link: BlackBerry CEO Says Despite a 'Fantastic Job' With iOS Design, Apple Now Lacks Innovation

Lacks innovation, hence why BB10 screen pretty much copies iOS with a similar interface.
 
I will take quality over quantity any day.

Apple could easily crank out updates every week with flashy gimmicks galore (Hello Samstolen) however Apple prefers to only release finished (not Beta) quality products to market that customers actually use.

Exactly! A little distance to the whole smartphone race would be appropriate.

The operating system is only something for the background. Think about air we breath, evolution brought us lots of great stuff and the air is still the same. Apple has to offer lots of great API stuff for developers and every iOS update brings new things in this area what most of people don't even know is there, but will affect your future app experience non the less. It's not about who implements the most features in the shortest time. That's why it's so easy for people to get dazed about all the 8 cores and GBs of RAM and widgets in Androids nowadays. But in the end, Apple still keeps up with it's 2 cores and 512mb of RAM with all that Android specs craziness.
It's that how Apple handle things. If samsung puts in 8 cores, they write the number big on their forehead and that's it. If Apple does something like that they build the framework first like GCD, writes documentation for developers to utilize this power and focus on what to actually do with this.
My iPhone 4 is still far ahead with all the smarthphones out there. Just because its not about numbers or redesigns or whatever. It's solely about the platform the OS, the smartphone offers.

There are still many things Apple has to improve, and will improve. Don't get me wrong.
 
For now, BB has nothing to offer on this front - let's wait and see if he is turning the company around and introduces some real innovation, and than he might earn the right to say something about this topic - for now, BB is still a fail.

That was my take as well. He doesn't have anything amazing to say about his own product so he's just going to talk smack about everyone else.
 
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