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That's pretty rich coming from them! And how long did they hold on to BBM for!? Their big mistake was not opening BBM up to other platforms.
 
The only other platform I would care about would be iCloud.com -- you can already do iCloud Calendars, Mail, Photos, Reminders, Notes, even iWork apps through a web browser. iMessage is conspicuously absent.

(The reason I care is that I'm on a work computer that I definitely do not care to link directly to my iCloud account...)
 
Hmm. Content neutrality...

So if all content should be neutral, does that mean that all of HBO's content should be available to every netizen, simply because they've created a service that uses the Internet to allow their actual customers to stream content? Should the HBO-Go app stream Showtime's content too?

I'm trying to think of something I've heard that's more ridiculous, but this one is hard to top.... I'm no longer "worried" about BB's future - with insanity like this in the driver's seat there then I am now 100% certain of their demise.
 
I think integrating iMessage into Apple's iCloud services would be pretty neat. Access from everywhere with minimal development effort.
 
Crazy

Crazy idea. But I also get his point.

I think people don't realize how dominant iOS is becoming; even people on this board. Yesterday we saw Microsoft say that its huge Windows 10 release is going to be made available free to all users of Windows 7 and 8. Considering the price that Windows sells at this is a huge multi-billion dollar decision. Why is Microsoft doing this for the dominant OS? Because it realizes that developers have significantly decreased developing software for Windows. So they need to create a huge pool of Windows 10 users that developers can come back to. If new applications are going to all go to iOS in a few years, then Windows is really going to suffer.

What we don't want is to be in a situation like we had with the PC were you either had to use Windows or you had do without a serious amount of Applications. That was a pretty bad situation for the world. Pretty soon you will have to use iOS or you will do without mobile applications. BBRY users already have to make that decision and many, like myself, end up carrying two phones to have the best of both worlds.

Note that there is no way to actually get developers to create for small platforms like BBRY. There isn't even the money or manpower available to do it if the law demanded it. But I get part of his point.
 
I get what you mean, and agree... but have you heard of the Toyota-BMW collaboration? They're working on the next Supra and it's going to be sick.

I just looked that up... very cool, but not expected before 2017. That is two generations of iEverything away. Let's talk about it then. :)
 
Two different scenarios.

Apple's iMessage is proprietary to them. They developed it. They are under no obligation to offer it for other platforms. They never stated they would. And since they don't offer it on windows or android, BB has no argument. BB also, for a long time, didn't offer their service and did so way too late. The reason they are pissed is because iOS users are not using BBM. Why would they?

Netflix is a service. BB at least can argue "discrimination" in that netflix is available for every other platform. But again - I believe this is Netflix's decision on which platforms to support or not.

Blackberry would have been better off comment on Apple's lack of facetime apis being available given that Steve Jobs stated at a keynote that this would happen (and still hasn't)
 
This actually has way more merit than BB's insistence. Adobe spent the time and money to create and just wanted it to be allowed. BB want's Apple to both create an app and open their servers and services to other platforms.

It's like insisting a successful dog walker walk my dog for free cause he/she is already in my neighborhood.

I disagree. If Apple had explicitly informed Adobe that what they were working on would be supported on iOS, you could argue it was a dick move on Apple's part. It's not something that required government enforcement. Nothing ever came of it. And for good reason.

And besides, doesn't Blackberry know that Android is "winning?" Who cares about iMessage?
 
Whilst I am not saying I agree with this or any aspect of it.

What kinda amazes me, is WHY anyone here would be against this as a general concept?

Tell me....

Why would YOU as an individual, not like any App or any Game to be available for YOU on the hardware platform YOU chose to buy?

Putting any Apple loyal fanboi'ish to one side. (if that's possible)

Why would anyone here, want only certain programs to be only available to certain people on certain platforms?

Given we are talking about software, which is, by it's nature a thing that be coded to do anything on anything (with varying levels of performance)

Why would ANY Apple owner, not love the prospect of being able to run any piece of software on their devices, and visa versa, would it not be nice for US THE CONSUMERS to be able to buy any other hardware and have it run any piece of Apple software also?

I'm not saying it's practical, and I know hardware firms (aka Apple) would hate it.

But.... US... The CONSUMERS.. We should all be 100% behind it as a IDEAL WORLD scenario concept we should want for everyone.
 

The best thign I ever learned in Business 101 in highschool is never to artificially limit your target market.

you should be aiming to hit 100% of the market all the time.

is it achievable? No, there will always be limiting factors outside of your own control. But to purposefully limit yourself to a specific market only prevents you from hitting the widest market, of everyone.
 
The best thign I ever learned in Business 101 in highschool is never to artificially limit your target market.

you should be aiming to hit 100% of the market all the time.

is it achievable? No, there will always be limiting factors outside of your own control. But to purposefully limit yourself to a specific market only prevents you from hitting the widest market, of everyone.

Agree 100%

And we shall see if Apple learns this with later revisions of the watch.
I'm sure they will do, as, upon launch the only people Apple can realistically sell there hardware to is just a percentage of their own iPhone customers.

Due to manufacturing issues I can only assume this is deliberate, as, in time, given the Android had a far higher market share in many countries, they may well feel they need to make the watch work on Android also, otherwise they are never going to sell as many watches as they could, and this will allow other brands that will come out to become dominate.
 
The best thign I ever learned in Business 101 in highschool is never to artificially limit your target market.

you should be aiming to hit 100% of the market all the time.

Rolex, Mecedes Benz, and their ilk must have missed that class.
 
That's it!

Taco Bell should be allowed to sell Big Macs.

AT&T should be able to sell Verizon phones.

Coke should be able to sell Diet Pepsi.
 
The best thign I ever learned in Business 101 in highschool is never to artificially limit your target market.

you should be aiming to hit 100% of the market all the time.

is it achievable? No, there will always be limiting factors outside of your own control. But to purposefully limit yourself to a specific market only prevents you from hitting the widest market, of everyone.

From a business aspect, this works in some markets, not for Apples market. They sell premium hardware. It makes software/services incentives to buy its products. Such as now free OS updates, cheaper Apple software. Free text messages to other iPhone users.

Once it did try to license its OS to PC manufactures only to have them under price their own products. A mistake Apple is not wanting to make again. Apple is not interested in razor thin margins where competition is fierce.

Making iMessage service available to all platforms would not be in Apples best interests.
 
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But we're not talking about email. There are open standards for sending messages. Like, a good one on the phone is the text message.

Email, instant messaging, VoIP... it's all data. I don't see why they should be treated differently.

SMS is useless to my Mac mini. Why do we even tolerate so many messaging systems and some of them are only available on some platforms?
 
The clue is in the "U.S. Government should force" portion of the headline.

What's wrong with that.

People in power, have in the past, and hopefully will do in the future, FORCE large companies, only interested in making money for themselves at the expense of anything. To have to, against their will open up to benefit the population of a country.

That's how we progressed and have rights as individuals.

You want Microsoft to be holding the US to ransom by wielding their power for example?
No, as this would not be allowed legally.

Apple could grow larger, say they did, then they decided to do something to screw people over, you would not want that, and they you would be looking at your government to force Apple legally to do other things.

Companies don't care about us remember.
 
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