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BlackBerry Hits '0%' Market Share Nearly Ten Years After iPhone Launched

SeattleMoose said:
The biggest business faux pas in history is when Bill Gates asked IBM (who needed MS-DOS) that MS get paid 100% of a license fee for every copy of MS-DOS sold with every IBM computer. And that MS could license the same MS-DOS to "other" companies. IBM decided to let MS take 100% of the SW license fee as they smugly assumed that all money was in the HW and NOT in the SW. And they also thought no "other" company could compete with Big Blue. The rest is history, Gates is the richest man in the world, and IBM is...a footnote in tech history.
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Yes, that was one of the classic blunders.

Of course, the most famous blunder is "Never get involved in a land war in Asia," but only slightly less well known is this one:

Apple's exclusivity deal with AT&T, which gave Android years to grow basically unopposed on other American carriers. AT&T made out like a bandit on the deal, while Apple lost over half the country's potential customers.
 
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cube said:
In the enterprise, you can split a BB10 phone into completely separate business and personal domains.

I understand BlackBerry has something similar for Android, but that cannot be as hardened.
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Some business are still using BB, with roadmaps to switch out of it.
TCO for a BB environment is way too expensive.
It was a goldmine when it started, because there was barely any competition.
But now it's a goner: http://www.eweek.com/mobile/slideshows/blackberry-10-failed-as-mobile-companys-savior-10-reasons-why
 
Last time I saw a Blackberry phone in the wild was at an expo in America in 2011, used by a team we were meeting with/drinking heavily with.
 
Amazing Iceman said:
Your reply above shows you still have a lot to learn about the iPad.
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Sure. I Rarely use iPad because mine is an iPad mini, pretty weak.
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Your files get stored in iCloud, and you can access them from all your devices.
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But storing anything in the cloud is not safe, plus when you are offline, accessing your files is harder.
Also, if file system is that useless, why people still buy conventional computer than buying an iPad? Although I admit fewer people are buying a conventional computer these days. File system is not the only point. Another point is the lack of critical special software which are just not available on iPad. Computer could do almost anything if not all, iPad could do, but not vise versa.
 
I keep saying it: Google and Apple need to be broken up by the US government. This duopoly has smashed innovation in recent years.
 
GoldenJoe said:
I keep saying it: Google and Apple need to be broken up by the US government. This duopoly has smashed innovation in recent years.
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It's not a crime to be good at what you do. Blame the competition for simply being too weak. Even Microsoft tried and couldn't crack the smartphone market, and it certainly wasn't for lack of trying.
 
Abazigal said:
Does this seem like a company who doesn't respond to the needs of its consumers?
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We are talking about the $700B company that takes 3 years to updates its Mac Pro lineup right? The brand that is most famous in the creative industry? Sure its doing well else where, but its very clear they are arrogant and mishandle some important stuff and concentrating on other things no one pays much attention to like bands and original content(video).
 
MacBH928 said:
We are talking about the $700B company that takes 3 years to updates its Mac Pro lineup right? The brand that is most famous in the creative industry? Sure its doing well else where, but its very clear they are arrogant and mishandle some important stuff and concentrating on other things no one pays much attention to like bands and original content(video).
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Are you sure no one pays attention to watch bands and original video content or is it just you?
 
cube said:
BB10 has the best software keyboard, at least when you're using both hands.
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I disagree. I'd rather use my old non-multi-touch stock Google keyboard from my OG Droid. I prefer Microsoft's WordFlow myself. To each their own though.
 
Microsoft has the best tech and design capability, Android is inherently "janky" , IOS is sort of trapped in time.

I suspect the "mix" will be very different once Microsoft has Pocket Surface Pro's. That and Windows-on-ARM will put pressure on both Android and IOS as people switch.... I'm certain Microsoft based Mobile devices will pass 10% in several years that brings legitimacy to the platform beyond UWP. The big question is who loses? I think its IOS that may very well fall below 10% once that happens. That probably will force apl to merge OSX and IOS and re-do the platforms.

Not at all surprised at the numbers after they killed Lumia..they did so for a reason. Its timing and building up the backend.
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GoldenJoe said:
I keep saying it: Google and Apple need to be broken up by the US government. This duopoly has smashed innovation in recent years.
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Dream on..what need to happen is other eco choices...coming
 
TheAppleFairy said:
Let me be more specific what really sucks about BB, the lack of Apps. BB OS 10 is worthless because good developers don't waste their time in that market.
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That's also killing the Windows phone. Given MS market share in general computing, that they failed to push their mobile platform sufficiently to attract app developers was a huge blunder. The Windows phone could have been huge for the PC dominated business/corporate segment.
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nburwell said:
Kind of shocking that almost 10 years ago, Blackberry phones were the device to have. Along with owning a Palm, Blackberry was one of my first smartphones. I even remember when the iPhone was introduced, I swore that I would still keep my Blackberry because I loved the physical keyboard (that didn't last long). Almost ten years later and I have owned iPhone's ever since (minus the brief period where I experimented with a Nexus device).
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I still miss having a physical keyboard option, as I also miss having a replaceable battery and headphone jack. Oh well, just aren't/weren't enough people like me to influence Apple.
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BvizioN said:
Blackberry was a phone maker (Now focused on software or whatever)
Apple is a phone maker
Android is not a phone maker.....it is an open operating system that is used from a top smartphones to the very cheapest one you can get from the corner shop. Way to compare Apple's with Oranges.
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Actually, Google now also is a phone maker and PC (chrome books) maker. Apple appears these days - with the neglect of the Mac lines - to be primarily a phone maker, as you state.
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Abazigal said:
It's not a crime to be good at what you do. Blame the competition for simply being too weak. Even Microsoft tried and couldn't crack the smartphone market, and it certainly wasn't for lack of trying.
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I beg to disagree - Microsoft failed in the mobile market precisely for lack of trying.
 
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Timelordprime said:
Although I am an ardent Mac evangelist, going on almost 30 years now, this is still a sad state of affairs. Blackberry was once a great Canadian high-tech success story, but when the technology changed, Blackberry stubbornly refused to update its designs and operating system to accommodate the mobile internet. It's inferior web browser, plus buggy operating system were the death knells to this once "leading-edge" company. Now it'll just be a brand name like Polaroid or Bell & Howell.
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What's worse, even when they used the same WebKit browser engine Apple and Google did, they did such a bad job with the interface it left the UX sub-par! They had a distinct competitive advantage when they acquired The Astonishing Tribe, but man, oh man!, how they mismanaged that team and squandered their potential!
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TheAppleFairy said:
I have a box of Blackberry Classics, Z10's and Z30's, these are some of their most current phones. We are still handing them out to some people at work (old people), until our stock is gone. They suck, absolutely suck, they might have been something before smart phones, but they are crap now.
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Ooh! If you're having difficulty giving them away, I'd be happy to relieve you of their care! :D
 
anthogag said:
BlackBerry is not at 0%. There are currently many BlackBerry BB10 (& BlackDroid) users out there on numerous networks.

BlackBerry continues to support its BB10 operating system for consumers and business users. But, it didn't launch any new BB10 devices. You can buy BB10 devices from www.blackberry.com, amazon, staples,...

BlackBerry is currently focusing on launching Android devices. The Priv, Dtek 50 & 60, and very soon another one...the Mercury. That's 4 BlackDroid.

There's growing concern about security, malware, etc. If you get an Android device, get a BlackDroid. You can't root a BlackDroid.

I remain a happy BlackBerry Passport (BB10) users. It's still better than iPhone, Windows, or any Android device.
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That's what the BB CEO must think as well. Living in reality is hard
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mi7chy said:
At this rate iOS will be next to join Blackberry unless they replace the Ballmer equivalent management team at Apple. With iOS at roughly 10% range Microsoft can easily make a comeback to overtake 2nd place with Surface Phone and Pro/Book/Studio ecosystem.

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Yeah I rather have market share as well and no profits. Oh wait
 
Abazigal said:
Are you sure no one pays attention to watch bands and original video content or is it just you?
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I am pretty sure its not the current Apple customer, who are Apple customers because they buy Apple computers, software, and ipods/iphones.
 
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