Probably because it's more like "Wow, a keyboard that looks like..... a [specific] keybaord"Wow, a keyboard that looks like..... a keyboard?
How can you patent a keyboard?
Probably because it's more like "Wow, a keyboard that looks like..... a [specific] keybaord"Wow, a keyboard that looks like..... a keyboard?
How can you patent a keyboard?
The market changes.
Mr. X will have to create a business model that offers something that Mr. Z cannot. Mr. X will also have to keep innovating, or choose to advance ideas from Mr. Z. Perhaps Mrs. G will create a business based off the product as well, with further advances on the original design. Mr. X could choose to pool resources with Mr. Z (capitalism) and buy ways to make the product more efficiently.
There is no one solution to the above proposed answer. The only thing to note, is that in this scenario, the competition and innovation required to make a successful business, along with the pooling of resources BENEFIT THE CONSUMER.
As far as I know, there is not yet a patent on pizzas. So how does a pizza shop compete against the thousands of other pizza companies without filing new patents? In the end, what matters is that there are more choices for the consumer, which fuels further innovations in pizza making and delivery. Every consumer, from low-income, to the health-conscience, have options.
Imagine how lousy the market for pizzas would be, if Pizza Hut owned the patents on making pizza.
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Give me an example of someone that you know, expressing this change in opinion.
I share my ideas, and creative content freely on the internet. Out of respect, I ask that my work is credited if it is used for profit. Outside of that, as someone who regularly makes and creates new things, I am not worried that I will run out of ideas. I work with a large group of people who follow ideas like Creative Commons and Copyleft. I think when we share many of our ideas in open forums, that the partnerships it creates, are more rewarding, then working alone.
Why wouldn't they concede that, especially since it's a fairly known reality?I find it ironic that the same people defending Blackberry suing over a simple keyboard would never concede that the original Windows operating system violated every Apple patent on the graphical operating system of the Macintosh.
Sure we all know Xerox invented it, but Apple used it with their permission and patented it at new levels Xerox never dreamed of. Yet most Windows users and Blackberry users (since I don't know any Mac/Blackberry user) just take that for granted.
By this line of thinking, Apple should practically own Microsoft now in litigation, but instead, they settled. In that case, Apple had no choice but to settle with cash rich Microsoft because winning would have taken the company bankrupt long before any win could happen and the computer world as we know it might not exist or the iPhone and maybe even the Blackberry as we know it.
Ponderous.
I find it ironic that the same people defending Blackberry suing over a simple keyboard would never concede that the original Windows operating system violated every Apple patent on the graphical operating system of the Macintosh.
Refreshing to see someone who is awake on these forums. Patents try unsuccessfully to remove risk from free markets but that's what markets are all about. Risk vs. reward. Lots of freedom haters on Macrumors.
They should still go for it as it's their intellectual property. Just because there's the chance they might lose in court doesn't mean they shouldn't defend what's rightfully theirs. Unlike some other companies, BlackBerry is still actually using its patents in current products ever since the original "BlueBerry" models.
Not like there's more to it than just a general idea of a keyboard, right?Yeah... Think you have some CHANCE of winning your case, no matter how ridiculous? Go for it then! Your attorney's gotta making a living too!
Seriously people, this is about a freakin' keyboard! Maybe Underwriter or Smith Corona or someone should sue all of the personal computer makers for adopting their QWERTY layout keyboards too?!
Maybe Apple should have patented their keyboards. Because every laptop in Best Buy seems to have the same keyboard as a MacBook now.
Is Typo a front for Samsung? I mean this is how Samsung does business: infringe, litigate, bring out a new model with tiny changes, infringe, litigate. repeat ad infinitum.
Wow, a keyboard that looks like..... a keyboard?
How can you patent a keyboard?
It's kind of clunky, but basically you just multi-quote some folks then move the first end-tag to be right up against the second one. So...
(QUOTE=Billy)Intelligent comment(/QUOTE)
(QUOTE=Bob)Intelligent response(/QUOTE)
Becomes...
(QUOTE=Billy)Intelligent comment
(QUOTE=Bob)Intelligent response(/QUOTE)(/QUOTE)
That will show the whole discussion you are responding to in the nested order it flowed.
Well according to the courts it didn't. Apple sued remember? And failed. Microsoft had even licensed certain GUI parts from Apple and yet Apple went right ahead and sued anyway all due to overlapping Windows in Windows 2.0. If you knew your stuff you'd also know that Xerox tried to sue Apple... and failed.
Sorry, but your post is nonsensical.
Hey Man! R & D isn't free. The courts recognize that. Hence the Patent and Copyright provisions.
Because, using that example, if BlackBerry spent time inventing a good keyboard then surely everyone should just benefit from their work just because. They are free to invent their own keyboard but that doesn't mean they get to take someone else's work and brand recognition and just benefit from it just because.I'm so glad Blackberry invented the keyboard. Boy, and I'm even more glad they licensed it to Apple, otherwise I wouldn't be able to type on my Macbook.
Yes, that was sarcasm. But if the keyboard were invented today, that's how it would work.
The future of "intellectual property" (a fancy word for ideas) is open. We share ideas daily through the internet. The open innovation and open-source revolution is coming. Companies like SpaceX and Tesla are embracing it. Toyota is toying with it. Open the flood gates, and we can start leaping through technology.
http://www.slate.com/articles/techn...ndustrial_revolution_and_open_innovation.html
I respect what you are trying to say here. SpaceX and Tesla are both run by Elon Musk (CEO at one, chief designer at the other). What you are saying is that because Elon Musk had the resources to make his patents available to everyone, everyone should have the same resources.
The problem is, that is not realistic. When Apple opened the flood gates in the App store, what happened? A race to the bottom. What we got was a lot of crap for a while. Then we found a system that legitimizes crapware (freemium).
What would happen if we invalidated all patents? I would spend years designing something and a big company would steal the design reaping the benefit of my R&D while not having to pay for R&D. This makes R&D not worth anything because you can't get paid for it.
A company like Samsung with billions could snipe any idea they wanted, and there is nothing anyone could say about it. Why would I spend my time developing something so that someone else can get paid for it? What leads you to believe that time is not worth anything? What leads you to believe it's okay for people with larger pocket books to get something for nothing? Why is that okay?
Patents exist because it is NOT okay. I get wanting to help keep technology moving, but the answer has nothing to do with... throwing the baby out with the bathwater. We need reform, not destruction.
If you would understand the true purpose of a patent, or had at any time in your life invested money and time to develop a product and bring it to market, then you wouldn't have made such a dumb comment.
I HATE patents. End them. End them ALL.
Indeed, in addition Tesla and SpaceX have both accumulated so much non-patented, but difficult to acquire knowledge that the open sourced technology is not very useful to anyone. Most companies, people or other entities would lack some pieces of the puzzle (capital, people, market position etc..) needed to bring the technology to market.
Refreshing to see someone who is awake on these forums. Patents try unsuccessfully to remove risk from free markets but that's what markets are all about. Risk vs. reward. Lots of freedom haters on Macrumors.
Blackberry is a sad sad company.