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Once again, Apple is at the cutting edge of technology: this time it is replacing the lighting port with USB-C port! Who would of thought that up? Only Apple; and it is going to have that cutting edge technology in the next generation of iPhones! Apple has to test it to make sure it works before release it to the general public! Might take a few more years to do the testing but it will come in time! I think it will come in 2025 after all the Apple bugs are worked out and ready to be released!
 
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And consumers could have voted with their $$$ to force apple to give them the product they want.
Apple was never the problem. They only changed the connector used across all iDevices twice in 20 years, while other (mainly pre-iPhone) manufacturers didn't even use the same connectors across different, contemporary models. Apple mostly put standard USB-A sockets in their iDevice power bricks - so you could change/replace the cable (I've frequently used Apple iDevice bricks to power other devices) - others shipped bricks captive cables, that were landfill when the cable wore out.

It's just that the EU have got it into their heads that the most important thing is the end of the cable that plugs into the phone, and don't seem to worry if the other end of that cable is welded into a power brick. Fortunately, most of the industry have moved towards power supplies with USB sockets on them- I'm not sure that's thanks to the EU.
 
There was at one time. It came out before USB-C and was the smallest and fastest port on the market. But the tech has moved on.

IMO, Lightning is a better design and I wish it had been adopted for USB-C. I always have issues with USB-C cables working their way loose. Lightning always stays firmly in place.

No. The exposed contacts often lead to errosion (the famous green stripe). Never had a problem with USB C cables being too loose, maybe therez some dust preventing from putting the cable all the way in?
 
This should have happened years ago. And it should happen because USB-C is fundamentally better than lightning — more reliable, faster charging, interoperable. It shouldn’t require, or be based upon, government regulation to get this done.
USB c is absolutely not as reliable as lightning by any means
 
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Is there really any testing to be done? I mean iOS already supports it…
They must be testing if there is some way they can add a chip so that it needs Apple certification and allows Apple to collect royalties from Accessory makers. What else would they be testing?
 
It does sound tight, but services out there are hitting those price points. Look at pCloud for example.
No egress fees.

2tb is $8/mo (https://www.pcloud.com/cloud-storage-pricing-plans.html?period=year)
or you can buy a lifetime of 2tb storage for $350 (breakeven around 3.5yrs).

Apple/Google/Dropbox/MS/etc though are all in the similar price range, and this data is a commodity type service.

What probably would make more sense for most of these companies is to offer a larger suite of features including the backup services to increase price but add value. MS 365 for example does this since you can get OneDrive + the entire Office Suite for $100/yr for 6 years, and it regularly goes on sale for only $40/yr ($3 per month).

In short I'm trying to say that these service CAN be had at those prices. This isn't expensive compute or machine learning. This is just storage & transfer which continues to get cheaper and cheaper, esp with CDNs, cloudflare sharing, etc. Unfortunately Apple and Google don't usually run deals, and those services would be more tightly coupled with their ecosystems.

Adding backup feature increases transfer and server active time, which would add additional cost.

Anything, “lifetime,” is for the lifetime of the product or service, which means maximum of 5 years in tech. It’s not for human lifetime. Also, this business model is not sustainable, let alone profitable.

You also mentioned CDN, but the idea of cheap storage is to store everything with zero backup and duplication. Would be kinda like a seedbox, when something goes wrong, you lose everything, but who cares if you don’t care about your data, you get storage for the cheap.
 
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Anything, “lifetime,” is for the lifetime of the product or service, which means maximum of 5 years at least in tech. It’s not for human lifetime. Also, this business model is not sustainable, let alone profitable.

Pretty clear from their own terms of service:

If pCloud ceases operation, your account will be terminated and pCloud will no longer provide the Site or Services.
 
Time from testing to final product could be 2 to 3 years so don’t get to excited yet
It’s going to be a big improvement
 
Hasn’t been my experience on the 2016 MacBook

This IIRC was assumed to be due to poorly manufactured USB-C ports. Some ports would become too loose far earlier than expected, which is specified to be at least 10K insertion/extraction cycles.

I have no issues on my iPad Pro 2018, which also has USB-C and has been plugged/unplugged on a daily basis for almost 4 years now and no issues on my new MacBook Pro, although it's maybe too early to tell.
 
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iPad Pro 2021 - USB-C
iPhone 2022 - Lighting

are they smoking crack or what?

MacBook Pro 2016 - USB-C
iPad Pro 2018 - USB-C
iPhone Pro 2022 - Lightning (?!)

*Fixed it.


Pretty much all portable devices I use have a USB-C port.
Would upgrade from 12 Pro Max to 14 Pro Max if it gets USB-C this year. Else very unlikely to find reasons to upgrade (especially in present economic climate).
 
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My car - USB C
My monitor - USB C
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iPad - USB C
Mac Mini - USB C
MacBook - USB C
Beats X - USB C
Magic Mouse - Lightning
Magic Keyboard - Lightning
iPhone - Lightning
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So can you specifically back up your claim why lightning is ‘less likely’ to have issues with the ports versus USB-C? That doesn’t make much sense to me.
USB-C is an inferior physical design with a male tongue in the middle of the port. Male portions of a connector will always be more prone to breaking than female connectors. Lightning has it right with the fragile portion in the cable rather than in the connector. Over the years, I’ve had at least 10 USB-C ports go bad because the cable won’t stay in the connector anymore. I’ve never had a Lightning port go bad, though I’ve had to replace several Lightning cables. After paying $900 for motherboard replacements due to bad USB-C connectors, I’ve severely soured on this very poorly designed connector. I’d much rather pay for a new Lightning cable than a new USB-C port.

On top of that, on my 1-year old iPad Pro 12.9” 2021, the port is already starting to loosen with the USB-C cable starting to dangle lower and lower. I don’t do anything with that port except charge. Feature-wise, USB-C has it all over Lightning, but physically, Lightning is superior.

I wish they’d come up with a new connector with the reliability of a Lightning connector and the feature set of USB-C/Thunderbolt.
 
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USB-C is an inferior physical design with a male tongue in the middle of the port. Male portions of a connector will always be more prone to breaking than female connectors. Lightning has it right with the fragile portion in the cable rather than in the connector. Over the years, I’ve had at least 10 USB-C ports go bad because the cable won’t stay in the connector anymore. I’ve never had a Lightning port go bad, though I’ve had to replace several Lightning cables. After paying $900 for motherboard replacements due to bad USB-C connectors, I’ve severely soured on this very poorly designed connector. I’d much rather pay for a new Lightning cable than a new USB-C port.

On top of that, on my 1-year old iPad Pro 12.9” 2021, the port is already starting to loosen with the USB-C cable starting to dangle lower and lower. I don’t do anything with that port except charge. Feature-wise, USB-C has it all over Lightning, but physically, Lightning is superior.

I wish they’d come up with a new connector with the reliability of a Lightning connector and the feature set of USB-C/Thunderbolt.
I have three laptops (including one M1 MBP) about 5 Android phones, 2 iPads, and several accessories all of which use USB-C ports that are robust. You must have got a lemon.
 
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I have three laptops (including one M1 MBP) about 5 Android phones, 2 iPads, and several accessories all of which use USB-C ports that are robust. You must have got a lemon.
On three different MacBook Pros? And an iPad Pro? I take quite good care of my gear since I even had a jet black iPhone 7 for a year without a case and not a scratch to be seen. No, USB-C ports are just really fragile. I’ve not dropped or done anything bad with my iPad Pro at all, but the cable is now starting to dangle at an angle, purely from sitting in the connector. It’s simply a poor physical design.
 
The engineering complexities of making usbc work with a mobile communications device is something only Apple can handle. I wish them well in their testing process.
 
I’ve not dropped or done anything bad with my iPad Pro at all, but the cable is now starting to dangle at an angle, purely from sitting in the connector. It’s simply a poor physical design.

As stated already, USB-C is required by standard to have a minimum durability rating of 10K insertion/extraction cycles.

If your device's USB-C port is not showing that level of durability, it's an issue with the manufacturing of your particular port which apparently is not up to standard. I'd expect it to be eligible for warranty repair and be replaced with a port which conforms with the actual standard's durability requirements.
 
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