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I agree with that principle, but why would it not be ready to work like it should? FaceID has been working as it should on iphones since 2017 and ipads since 2018. Surely the implementation on a desktop should be no harder, if not easier?
You ask a good question which none of us can rightfully answer. Maybe it is nothing more than a design quibble that needs straightening out.
 
Only reason I could see is that they launch a small cheap version first and reserve it for a more premium model launched later. The delay into a 2nd design iteration I am not buying ...

JK
 
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Having an uncovered webcam on any computer all the time still freaks me out.

Would be nice if they built in an integrated web or Face ID cover. The current options I use are essentially just stickers to peel on or off.
The light won’t come on if it’s off
 
This is everything I really dont like about Apple.

No excuse whatsoever except adding as another feature on Gen 2.
People will buy no matter what, but Face ID is something I would really like to see across all macs moving forward, and now is the time to implement it.
 
What makes you think that it's a problem? They could've done it 4 years ago, but... why would they? They'll have enough "new" features to sell this year and they'll make next year all about face id. That's a genius marketing move.

Not saying they overlooked it, but obviously it's a bad look that the largest company in the world can't get this tech into an iMac in 3-4 years time.
It would be unacceptable Apple crippled faceID in new iMac, just to have “new” features in 2nd gen (wouldn’t the silicon improvements be enough?) that would not be smart but rather pathetic to announce in 2022 touchID as a “new feature”.
I believe it will be the power button touchID feature that will be “saved” for 2nd gen. My hopes anyway...
 
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Cellular connectivity in Macs never seemed to make a lot of sense to me. Surely this would only be useful to people who... don’t have phones? Who’s going to pay extra for a second SIM card for their Mac when they can just tether off their phone?

Face ID, on the other hand, is an absolute no brainier in Macs. I can only assume the delay is due to technical and/or cost issues.

After all, a user typically sits further away from a Mac screen than from a phone screen. So I guess the sensor from the iPhone can’t just be reused in Macs.
There are people with batch SIM cards. These contracts were first introduced with the Apple Watch here. A friend of mine can have up to 3 additional eSIM registered with his main contract for no additional cost. That‘d be enough for your Phone (main SIM), your Watch, your iPad and your iMac.

What‘s even more common is free mobile plans with your mainline / internet. My parents can claim up to 4 mobile plans at no additional cost. These things don‘t come with a lot of data (after that’s used it’s slow internet time) but they can call indefinitely.
 
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Bit of over reaction to lack of Face ID in my opinion. If you can't put a password in and tap in a few characters, then to my mind that's sad. It only convinces me that there are many computers owned as toys.

I'm looking forward to the iMac, for what it can do in terms of performance and productivity. I doubt I will lose sleep if it doesn't recognise my face in order to open up, and we've seen in the past that fingerprint and even Face ID are not that hard to bypass, whereas a decent password is.
Who is breaking into your house with a latex mask of your face? If it ain't Tom Cruise then it ain't happening! Unless you got some state level secret that some nefarious party is after, I reckon you're gonna be just fine.
 
Very disappointing. All these years they've taken to redesign the iMac, and then they will intentionally knee-cap it with no FaceID in order to drum up the gen-2 model. Not surprising as that is typical Apple.

FaceID would work the best in an iMac because it is always in the proper position and has no ability to receive Touch ID.

I was really planning to upgrade to these new iMacs, but I might wait FaceID out. That was the biggest feature I was looking forward to in the new designs.

How is it not possible to have touch ID on the iMac? They can easily add it to the Magic Keyboard just like they do with the Macbook's. As a matter of fact that would be preferable to FaceID.
 
How is it not possible to have touch ID on the iMac? They can easily add it to the Magic Keyboard just like they do with the Macbook's. As a matter of fact that would be preferable to FaceID.
That means the keyboard should have an T2 chip in it
On the macbooks is on the motherboard connected..the magic keyboard is wireless
So the price will be higher and after that people will complain about the price
On the macs with display, faceid is more intuitive..but apple will let this for second generation
 
That means the keyboard should have an T2 chip in it
On the macbooks is on the motherboard connected..the magic keyboard is wireless
So the price will be higher and after that people will complain about the price
On the macs with display, faceid is more intuitive..but apple will let this for second generation
I don't see the issue with putting a T2 chip in the keyboard, it costs the same no matter where you put it. FaceID is likely more expensive anyway.
 
Those saying you want Face ID on the Mac because you don't want to have to enter a password or use your Apple Watch to authenticate, there are still parts of macOS that require you to enter your password anyway. Like, on startup - have to enter your password before Touch ID or Unlock with Apple Watch will work; showing a password in Keychain Access; installing some software apps. Face ID won't end these requirements; it'll just be another means of authenticating with, maybe, some minor improvements over the existing methods.

For example:
- Touch ID on the MacBooks: You have to login with your password before you can use it to unlock it, and it's right there on the keyboard, in the top corner. You don't have to look for it.
- Unlock with Apple Watch: As above, you have to login before you can use it, but once you have it's just a matter of tapping a key or the Trackpad to make the Mac wake up and unlock.
- Authenticate with Apple Watch: A simple double-press of the Side Button authenticates most dialogs in macOS.

How would you choose NOT to authenticate a dialog or authenticate an Apple Pay payment in Safari if you have Face ID enabled? If you're looking at your screen and an authentication dialog pops up, does it immediately see your face and confirm the dialog? That's dangerous, so macOS might have to have a button on that dialog for you to press to authenticate with Face ID (as would any web page to confirm an Apple Pay payment).

Touch ID and Apple Watch require you to do something extremely simple to confirm you want to proceed. From what I've just theorised above, Face ID puts in an extra step.
 
I would love to see Face ID on the iMac. I am usually not wearing a mask when in front of my computer so it should be a seamless experience and make things a little easier all around.
 
No... Simply not enough time for their aggressive schedule. That's not a new concept. Something that all companies deal with. Especially developing a a highly refreshed product and hitting a required release date. Stuff you want to include has to wait, for a variety of reasons, especially when needing to rely on dozens of vendors supplying parts, complicated with the pandemic.
Jesus, there’s nothing “aggressive” about not touching their iMacs other than a spec bump here and there for almost a decade. We’ve waited enough already.
 
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Jesus, there’s nothing “aggressive” about not touching their iMacs other than a spec bump here and there for almost a decade. We’ve waited enough already.

Your thinking is stuck in the past, when Apple was beholden to Intel's incredibly lackluster updates (both in performance and power dissipation) and unreliable roadmap.

Apple now being in charge of their own (and proprietary) CPU designs and fabbed by TSMC will significantly change their Macintosh development profile, in multiple ways. Such as releasing brand new designs with significantly better performance and taking advantage of much lower CPU power dissipations, just as an example. Apple will have their hands full releasing multiple redesigned Macs in 2021.
 
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Your thinking is stuck in the past, when Apple was beholden to Intel's incredibly lackluster updates (both in performance and power dissipation) and unreliable roadmap.

Apple now being in charge of their own (and proprietary) CPU designs and fabbed by TSMC will significantly change their Macintosh development profile, in multiple ways. Such as releasing brand new designs with significantly better performance and taking advantage of much lower CPU power dissipations, just as an example. Apple will have their hands full releasing multiple redesigned Macs in 2021.
Well, leave it to you to shift blame and taunt anyone but Apple on anything.

Apple’s delivery is what’s stuck in the past, not my thinking. Intel chipsets weren’t stopping Apple from coming up with new designs for their computers. If Microsoft of all companies could dream up something like the Surface Studio (not debating whether successful or not), why couldn’t Apple push forward the iMac in a whole decade? Oh no it’s Intel’s fault! No it’s the thermal corner’s fault! Or they simply weren’t even trying. Let’s see what 2021 will bring.
 
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Your thinking is stuck in the past, when Apple was beholden to Intel's incredibly lackluster updates (both in performance and power dissipation) and unreliable roadmap.

Apple now being in charge of their own (and proprietary) CPU designs and fabbed by TSMC will significantly change their Macintosh development profile, in multiple ways. Such as releasing brand new designs with significantly better performance and taking advantage of much lower CPU power dissipations, just as an example. Apple will have their hands full releasing multiple redesigned Macs in 2021.

Ha!

There is no denying that Intel haven't really pushed the envelope in recent years but the state of the Mac is almost entirely on Apple.

No surprise that they are now slowly but surely adding back the functionality that they pointlessly removed (Magsafe, functional keyboards, useful ports on 'pro' machines). None of that was anything to do with Intel.
 
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Well, leave it to you to shift blame and taunt anyone but Apple on anything.

Apple’s delivery is what’s stuck in the past, not my thinking. Intel chipsets weren’t stopping Apple from coming up with new designs for their computers. If Microsoft of all companies could dream up something like the Surface Studio (not debating whether successful or not), why couldn’t Apple push forward the iMac in a whole decade? Oh no it’s Intel’s fault! No it’s the thermal corner’s fault! Or they simply weren’t even trying. Let’s see what 2021 will bring.

Oh, I see where you're coming from. Your expectations with respect to new computer designs has to do with cosmetics, perhaps different shapes, materials, etc. Square corners instead of rounded. Perhaps titanium instead of aluminum cases. Or a breakthrough resulting in a smaller "chin." Or maybe a Surface Studio-like design that looks wowy, but performs poorly and has been rejected by the market. Or...maybe a fancy new articulating swivel stand for the current iMac! And if Intel boasts yearly 5% improvements in performance with dreadful thermals limiting new physical design potential to a smaller chin, well, that's OK.

Having low performance expectations is fine. That has enticed millions of Apple customers over the years.

Personally, I'm looking forward to significant year-over-year CPU and graphics performance improvements and new processing features realized in proprietary silicon that Apple's M-series cpus and Johny Srouji's design engineers promise. That they also offer superior thermals and power dissipation means new physical designs will emerge and not be limited to square corners, smaller chins, new stand, and new case materials.
 
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Ha!

There is no denying that Intel haven't really pushed the envelope in recent years but the state of the Mac is almost entirely on Apple.

No surprise that they are now slowly but surely adding back the functionality that they pointlessly removed (Magsafe, functional keyboards, useful ports on 'pro' machines). None of that was anything to do with Intel.

See my above post. It has EVERYTHING to do with Intel.
 
See my above post. It has EVERYTHING to do with Intel

Nah.

Apple have shown with the laptops (and the awful mess that they made of the trashan Mac Pro)they have no idea what their customers want with the Mac.

They have taken away things that people wanted and added things that hardly anybody did.

Why else would they be in process of adding back the functionality that they removed (card reader, MagSafe, scissor switch keyboards) and removing pointless adornments like the Touch Bar. NONE of this was necessitated by the use of Intel chips.

The silicon transition is great they deserve credit for how well its going so far, but a lot of the problems with the Mac in recent years have been needless and self inflicted by Apple.
 
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