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Apple did just that for the previous transition.

It might seem boring, but it's the best way to mitigate engineering and supply chain risks.

True but this is not that old Apple, they are the richest company in the world unlike during that last transition when they were faltering. Plus they've had Silicon in development for years which I am assuming the new designs as well.
 
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some of these developers are super slow to update Intel Mac apps that I use. Ill wait a year or 3 for the second or 3rd gen and then ill buy an older model. I'm not even sure if I should update to Big Sur since the beta is giving me random crashes with the apps. With Apple I noticed the 3rd gen stuff is the refined product. watch, MacBook 12, iPhone, iPad and im sure the glasses will be this way too. im no longer being impatient with apple stuff. ill wait and let others run full tests unless Im doing FCPX and the workflow is a mind-blowing difference.
 
Return of the MacBook with rounded corners, pushing the display from 12 inches to 13 inches. 8GB RAM. 256GB flash storage. ProMotion and True Tone. Cellular model. Brand new Butterfly keyboard. Forch Touch trackpad with better haptics.
 
Good to reconfirm I guess. I really wanted the Apple Silicon Macbook but will have to wait for a while now. Windows in the mean time.

Should have switched to AMD Ryzen.

Ryzen would be similar to Intel just far better at everything (performance, cooling, noise, battery, igpu etc). ARM brings genuine new experiences as well as the rest. It also brings iOS appstore to Macs and even better per watt performance. Apple's software will be very strong. The iPad is much nicer at a lot of stuff than Mac Os so its going to be very good I assume.

Given per watt performance is being said so much, I have a feeling these first ARM might not match up to Ryzen on pure performance currently (despite being 5nm) but its looking really good otherwise!
 
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Obviously the first will be a low end macbook
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Probably shipping in December
Considering the way the 2020 Air was configured, an Apple SOC version is set up to be better all around. The 2020 iPad Pro outperforms the Air in pretty much any bench that you can run cross-platform.
With Apple's quality history I would not want the first one, unless I could afford to use it as a door stop.
I don’t see where physical quality is going to vary—it’s the iPad Pro guts in MacOS form. Unless you mean software experiences, you may be right. If you can live mostly with Apple’s first party software and iOS crossover apps, then I think the risk is low. Complex x86 software might be an entirely different story, though Apple did demo some of that in their migration announcement. Usually it doesn’t pay to be first through.
 
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Not many people I know want to be lab rats with severely limited, untested hardware.

The 3080 is actually... Useful.

it’s not untested. It’s just macOS recompiled on ARM and we know for 13 years the benefits of the XNU kernel running on it. What will be attractive for buyers is the long battery life and very reduced heat. The first big wave of buyers will mostly be office users, students and long term Mac faithful. Power users will be later.

The first MacBook Pros flew off the shelves and many apps were also using Rosetta at the time.
 
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Good to reconfirm I guess. I really wanted the Apple Silicon Macbook but will have to wait for a while now. Windows in the mean time.



Ryzen would be similar to Intel just far better at everything (performance, cooling, noise, battery, igpu etc). ARM brings genuine new experiences as well as the rest. It also brings iOS appstore to Macs and even better per watt performance. Apple's software will be very strong. The iPad is much nicer at a lot of stuff than Mac Os so its going to be very good I assume.

Given per watt performance is being said so much, I have a feeling these first ARM might not match up to Ryzen on pure performance currently (despite being 5nm) but its looking really good otherwise!

I wouldn't know what an iPad is like because they cost twice as much as I'll ever be willing to pay for one. I've priced them every couple of years since their introduction and they cost more, not less. I have contempt for those who buy them and that won't ever change.
 
Curios about the ARM mac, but not enough to buy it unless the price is really within the iPad range. Otherwise . The first generation is always the "test" one.
 
Good to reconfirm I guess. I really wanted the Apple Silicon Macbook but will have to wait for a while now. Windows in the mean time.



Ryzen would be similar to Intel just far better at everything (performance, cooling, noise, battery, igpu etc). ARM brings genuine new experiences as well as the rest. It also brings iOS appstore to Macs and even better per watt performance. Apple's software will be very strong. The iPad is much nicer at a lot of stuff than Mac Os so its going to be very good I assume.

Given per watt performance is being said so much, I have a feeling these first ARM might not match up to Ryzen on pure performance currently (despite being 5nm) but its looking really good otherwise!

Using AMD would be a step backwards compared to Intel, ARM is a step forwards.
 
Obviously the first will be a low end macbook

Probably. And my betting is it will be similarly powerful to the current top end MacBooks Pro

Should have switched to AMD Ryzen.

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no

Apple did just that for the previous transition.

It might seem boring, but it's the best way to mitigate engineering and supply chain risks.

Apple was a very different company 15 years ago. They are now used to new iPhone forms every couple of years or so. I’m almost certain these arm macs will look different to what has come before. At least the first ones. Perhaps Mac Pro might keep the same case as it is still so new.
 
I'm really curious about the new Macs, but I've invested enough in my mini with an eGPU that I'll wait a bit. If they bring eGPU support to the new Arm Macs (though maybe they won't need it with Apple's graphics chipset), plus continue support for all the apps I regularly use, then I'll take the plunge.
 
Wonder if we’re heading back to the land of flaming bunny man suits and Gaussian blur / PS plug-in speed comparisons.
 
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Hoping for a 13-inch MacBook Pro but I would imagine (like everyone else) that these will be included in a revised 12-inch or some other lower-end MacBook/netbook. Still, exciting to see what the benchmark scores will look like!
 
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