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We could say that to every sports fan. :)

I'm so glad nobody ever offered me the opportunity to invest in the Redskins!

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Seriously? Do you listen to yourself? You realize you're still talking about computers at the end of the day, right? Inanimate objects.

And if you had any faith in Apple, you would realize that if they chose to go down this path, they would do it with the utmost care and regard as to not do exactly what they said.

Again, nothing happens to you (unless you're financially invested) if something happens to Apple.

And now you've missed the point. Because I'm not talking about computers. I'm talking about business.

And according to your own logic, something DOES happen to me, because I am financially invested
 
I will purchase one on release if this happens. I enjoy the 7" form factor.

As for everyone doubting apple, I think you're on the wrong side of history. The 7" market is hot right now, and Apple has waited long enough to get into it. If they get into it, they will dominate. The tablet is Apple's territory and it's going to remain that way for some time.
 
It concerns anyone invested in apple (whether financially or emotionally, although emotionally is arguably foolish)

There's a strong likelihood that it will be a poor product that will damage the brand.

Can you explain how you arrived at this conclusion? Judging by Apple's recent history, they're not in a habit of releasing poorly made products that damage their brand.

People will buy the mini arguing its cheaper and its the same as the iPad, and they simply don't need bigger because bigger is just a luxury.

They won't consider that the resolution, target size, etc into their buying and if it results in poorer user experience, they will write off the iPad as well rather than realizing they got what they paid for.
So, do people consider laptops over 12" a luxury, or do they get them based on their needs? Since you don't see people in droves, rushing to buy netbooks, I'd guess the latter. There's no reason why Apple shouldn't be able to appropriately fit the smaller iPad into their lineup.
Also, how can you possibly know whether a 7.xx sized interface "results in poorer user experience" when (I'm making a wild guess here) you've never used iOS on a device that size.

Apple won't make developers develop for a middle tablet on top of the iPad and iPhone. So it will scale. But making it so it performs as well to scale is a tightrope act. There's plenty of targets on my iPad screen that are frustratingly small as it is.

Firstly there's no way of telling what Apple will or will not do. We don't know how Apple plans to market the device, or how they're going to price it, or what features will be included/omitted in the device. Like I said earlier, I have no doubt in my mind that if Apple truly plans on releasing such device, they will have a way to make it fit into the lineup.
Secondly, if the device is to have 1024x768 resolution, 100% of the iPad apps will run scale perfectly. Sure, some interface elements will become smaller, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they'll be unusable. We'll have to wait and see.
 
Isn't it funny that Apple hasn't updated the iPod touch in a while? Is there a coincidence? I think there is and it has to do with rebranding it to the iPad line.

iPod touch will become the iPad nano for $149 to $299. Marketed for maximum mobility.

A new device called the iPad mini will be a smaller iPad for $299 to $449. Marketed for content consumption.

And the iPad price will drop from $499 to $449. Marketed as a "pro" device.

The iPad 2 will be dropped.
 
I'd say they learnt their lesson from the mid 2000s when they utterly destroyed the competition with various iPod lines. Arguably their biggest move since the launch of the first iPod was the iPod Nano which took out all the major competitors who were relying on the mid end flash-based MP3 players and gave people an excellent portable player. I imagine iPad mini will do the same.

yes that is a great point, I don't know I just personally don't like it.
 
i always get amazed by how many apple fans don't get what apple stands for.

They don't follow the competition, and definitely don't price their merchandise to compete with others.

Steve Jobs said NO to the 7" tablet so that alone is the end of the discussion.

But more importantly a 7" tablet would require a new resolution, which alone is a no-no. at least for the time being.

A 7" tablet = a mediocre experience which is why apple won't make such a product, hence the reason why i buy apple products.

Jobs' saying "no" to something does not make it a commandment for Apple. It never did, even when he was the acting CEO of the company. Jobs also initially said "no" to iTunes for windows, usb on iPods, the video iPod, the Apple phone, the 3rd party apps for iPhone, the Apple tablet pc, etc.. There were instances where he'd change his mind on something overnight.
Watch this: Steve Jobs Was an Awesome Flip-Flopper, Says Tim Cook (Video)
 
It's not about choice. It's about releasing a poor product.

Ruth's Chris has a reputation for making great steaks. They're expensive and very very good.

Now if they released a $10 steak that was half the size, but also inferior meat, they would lose their reputation for making great steaks. Granted, there will be people who try both, take the broad perspective and say "well, their high end steak is really good." But most of the public would say "why would I spend money on a bigger steak that isn't all that great?" They wouldn't perceive a difference in the quality of the product.

you got it all wrong.

$10 steaks in apple world means iPad mini with a single core A4, 256mb of ram.

I'm not talking about cheaper quality, but everything in iPad mini is gonna be the same except the screen size.

same A5x from the new iPad, same graphic capabilities, 1024x768 screen so battery life isn't an issue.

so this means ruth's chris selling a cheaper steak with the same quality, it's cheaper because it's smaller, good for kids and for people who feel the current steak is too much for them.

why don't u get it?
 
i always get amazed by how many apple fans don't get what apple stands for.

They don't follow the competition, and definitely don't price their merchandise to compete with others.

Steve Jobs said NO to the 7" tablet so that alone is the end of the discussion.

But more importantly a 7" tablet would require a new resolution, which alone is a no-no. at least for the time being.

A 7" tablet = a mediocre experience which is why apple won't make such a product, hence the reason why i buy apple products.

I would agree with you in believing what Steve said but he also took a dump on any laptops smaller than 13 inches in 2008 and yet we have the 11 air now.Also you don't need a new res if you use 1024 x768
 
If that's how you define the current iPad - then yes, it is.

No, because the current iPad is a tablet at 10 inches.

A 7 inch one would basically be a big iPod Touch. Since an iPod Touch is like 3 inches, that is closer to 7 than 10. If you do not agree, please consult to your local calculator.

10-3=7
7-3=4

There you go. I hope you learned something today. I hope you now know subtraction and do not have to use a calculator anymore for this process.

Your welcome. :cool:
 
Isn't it funny that Apple hasn't updated the iPod touch in a while? Is there a coincidence? I think there is and it has to do with rebranding it to the iPad line.

iPod touch will become the iPad nano for $149 to $299. Marketed for maximum mobility.

A new device called the iPad mini will be a smaller iPad for $299 to $449. Marketed for content consumption.

And the iPad price will drop from $499 to $449. Marketed as a "pro" device.

The iPad 2 will be dropped.

iPod Touch will go away.

iTouch will be the new 7" form factor.
 
same A5x from the new iPad, same graphic capabilities, 1024x768 screen so battery life isn't an issue.

I doubt it will be the A5X. No need since it's only a 1024x768 display.

Instead I think it will be the new more power efficient 32nm version of the A5 chip that Apple has already been shipping in the $399 iPad 2 models: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5789/the-ipad-24-review-32nm-a5-tested/

The A5 handles games on the iPad 2's 1024x768 display as well as the A5X does on the iPad 3's 2048x1536 display, and in some cases performs even better because of the resolution difference.

It's also a chip that they've been making for over a year now, so they probably can buy them at pretty cheap prices.
 
I will buy one.

I've been waiting for a paperback-sized iPad. Something to use primarily as a reader/web-surfer. Something lighter that can be easily held in one hand.

I think the display will be just fine, as the original iPad resolution will be squozed into the smaller form factor.
 
Price may be a factor for some, but I believe they're in the minority. Most Apple buyers are not price sensitive.

I have an awfully large group of friends who use the same group of Apple products that I do. iPhone/iPad/MBA, MBP or all four.

None of us understands the hate on this forum for a 7" iPad. Each & everyone of us plans to buy at least one. The very day they're released.

I don't care if they don't have retina, it's not as big of a deal as most make it. Yes it's nice, but for a handy grab & go iPad I won't miss it a bit.
 
I dunno....as an iOS developer, I'm just not seeing this become a reality.

The way UIKit is designed, some iPad apps have "sidebars" (like Mail) when you're in landscape mode, and that sidebar has the same width as the entire iPhone (320px). If the 7" retains this same sidebar size, then the main window is ridiculously small. And if they don't use a sidebar at all (like the iPhone), then it simply feels like a big iPhone.
 
I dunno....as an iOS developer, I'm just not seeing this become a reality.

The way UIKit is designed, some iPad apps have "sidebars" (like Mail) when you're in landscape mode, and that sidebar has the same width as the entire iPhone (320px). If the 7" retains this same sidebar size, then the main window is ridiculously small. And if they don't use a sidebar at all (like the iPhone), then it simply feels like a big iPhone.

My guess is it would just use the non-retina iPad dimensions, pixel for pixel. iPad UI elements are already generally a bit bigger than iPhone elements, so a reduction from 9.7" to 7.85" should keep it pretty usable. It would have the same pixel density as the original iPhone.
 
It will be nice to have a smaller iPad. I wonder if the battery life will be longer then the 9" ipad?

Probably not, due to the fact it'll have a smaller battery, but will otherwise consume roughly the same amount of power...assuming the iPad Mini sports the same hardware as the iPad 3, of course.

The Nexus 7 is about on par with the iPad 3 spec wise, and it gets about 8 hours on a charge
 
I would love a 7 inch iPad but I have a few observations.

1. Releasing a 7 inch model would put a ding in their 10 inch sales and profits.

2. Regardless what a lot of people say I think a 7 inch would sale. Choice is always good for the consumer. Just because you find 10 inches to be perfect many people do not.

3. Price is key. A $300 16gig mini would match well with the 16gig Nexus 7. $50 more expensive but you will basically have a shrunken iPad 2. Good for customers but bad for Apple's profit margins.

Overall I think Apple is reacting to the competition which is good and bad. If you want to stay on top you got to be first. No doubt the Kindle fire is taking away sales. And to make matters worst the Nexus 7 kills the kindle fire.
 
Why would Apple voluntarily undercut their 9.5" iPad by selling a 7" iPad?? That makes absolutely no sense to me and I don't see any overwhelming demand for a smaller tablet.

The only way I can see this happening is as a remote control for the new Apple TV
 
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