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Bloomberg: Next-Generation MacBook Pro to Offer Improved Displays, Faster Charging Over MagSafe
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I see it in laptop ports. One USB-C charging port. One USB-C non-charging port. I assume that there's some cost to it.
But does it need to be that way? The third party USBc-to-MagSafe type adapter I purchased supports data as well as charging. I run my external samsung49 through it daily.
Quite possibly it's the same USB-C charge brick, with a USB-C to magsafe cable. That would be ideal. But also not really Apple-esque. However, admitting mistakes and bringing back magsafe and ports, and dumping touchbar and butterfly aren't Apple-esque either, so fingers crossed. It would also fit in with the enviro-friendly reuse chargers mantra, so maybe maybe.
couldn't agree more with all of this.
also, because of the usb-c charging in the post 2015 mbp design, it effectively only ships with 3 working ports.
can't wait for the next gen mbp
I guess what we don't know now is whether this MagSafe will simply be a modified usb-c cable, or a proprietary charging port by Apple. I see no issues with it being an optional cable that can be used when you only need to charge your laptop, and I can always use a separate thunderbolt cable when I want to hook it up to a bunch of other peripherals, for when I don't want it to be disconnected so easily.
I just don't see the point of Apple adding a bunch of other single-use ports like the old MagSafe, usb-A or even HDMI when USB-C is just so much more versatile. What happens when the HDMI port is on the right but your monitor is on the left, for instance.
Just feels like a step back in that regard.
Well the vast majority of gaming laptops certainly need over 100w.
I have the g14 and it requires the 180w power brick for using the discreet graphics.
Why not "Apple-esque"? That's exactly how MagSafe works on the iPhone.
That’s kind of my point. The “USB-c + other” laptops have the “other” because USB PD tops out at 100w, not because providing two completely separate plugs to charge the same amount is somehow logical.
No it isn't. Literally the only benefit is if you were a clumsy oaf and tripped over the cable in pulled out. In every other way USB-C is better. It doesn't fall out when you're working on the sofa like MagSafe did (to the point where my girlfriend screamed it was the worst design ever). If the cable is damaged you can replace with any other USB-C cable, unlike MagSafe where when the cables inevitably broke you had to have the entire charger replaced! It plugs in on either side you don't have to bend the cable around. It's compatible with every other USB-C charger and so it's cheap to have chargers dotted around every room which not only charge your MacBook but all other USB-C devices. And finally if you loved a pull away magnetic cable so much you could just buy a USB-C version which I did in 2016 and never used it once.
Have an extra port a MacBook Pro is unnecessary, ugly, it'll get dirty if I don't use it, it'll only be on one side and it'll confuse average users if they have two ways to charge. I'll take 6 Thunderbolt Ports and if they want Apple's USB-C MagSafe connection that I can choose to use or not, but not an old port back on it again - faster charging is not enough benefit to me when you can already get 100w with USB-C and we're supposedly going to lower wattege devices with longer battery life, why would I need to charge at over 100??
I don't want to bet at all - thank Apple are the only company that think a desktop OS shouldn't be touch enabled.
Well the rumor is what it is...I would be really surprised if Apple would “sacrifice” a port for charging only, given their record on scarce layout. I’m one of the “magsafe nostalgic”, but would like to keep the versatility of the 4(at least) TB/Usb-C ports layout, so I wish a “tweak”on cable solution. This would also enable Apple to offer a proprietary solution bypassing the eventual enforcement of EU in a “standardized” charging port.
Agreed, 100%. It's a rumour, and treating it as anything more is kind of silly.
And, I agree that the best case scenario if they were to adopt something with a magnetic connection, would be something akin to the existing USB-C charge cables with a magnetic disconnect feature.
Dude chill out, Apple is adding a feature and you are trashing them for it. They are bringing MagSafe back since it’s a great innovation that protects the computer from accidentally damage and should have never been removed. The USB-C charging will still be available it’s not going away. On a safety of a desk environment usb-c charging makes sense but not away from a fixed location. I have a Dell with usb-c only and have had multiple incidents of knocking it to the ground or flying across the floor because of the stupid charger cable and also damaging the port to boot. MagSafe is awesome.
There is a rumour about a feature, and you are assuming the best case scenario about how it would be implemented.
Did you call a psychic line to get that information, or do you have weekly BBQ's with Tim Cook?
That's where I am. I already have USB-C to "whatever" cables for every cable I'd need. So, I actively search for products with no USB-A connectors because they're of no use to me.
Those discrete graphics are chips meant for desktop enclosures, right?
It WOULD be like Apple to take all these proprietary solutions and then work with the standards body to get an addendum to USB-C standards.
What you (and most people) seem to forget is that there's a security risk to any cable capable of transferring data. A dedicated charging port means that you can use someone else's charger if you need to, without fear of infection or compromised data.
MagSafe was one of those rare technologies that was near-on perfect. Ditching it for some obsessive minimalistic aesthetic was like removing the nose from your face. I mean hey, one less port to worry about and you can still breath through your mouth, right?
True, but solvable — and has been solved in iOS for many years. When connecting any device, have the OS prompt the user if they trust it.
(There's a risk of alert fatigue here, but in practice, most people don't connect that many devices.)
Where do you buy your brand of sarcasm? Hope you kept the receipt.
It’s my own home recipe, a specially balanced mix of healthy skepticism, and all the ****s I can give, which is zero.
That's true when you connect to a well-behaving Mac. Can you not conceive of a charger or cable that might be able to deliver a malicious payload without triggering this warning?
In practice, people share data cables, buy cheap third-party cables and chargers, and use public charging stations (in airports, etc) all the time. I'm mostly talking about mobile devices here, but the principle is the same.
I just think it's a benefit worth mentioning, because most people don't even think about it. If I had the choice between buying a Mac with USB-C charging or MagSafe, I'd choose MagSafe every time. Even if there was no security benefit, the trip-hazard reduction is worth the ticket price alone.