If you plug the new MacBook Air into Apple's tiny 20W charger, it actually does give a pretty decent charge!
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Bloomberg: Next-Generation MacBook Pro to Offer Improved Displays, Faster Charging Over MagSafe
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If you plug the new MacBook Air into Apple's tiny 20W charger, it actually does give a pretty decent charge!
One problem in the concept though, which reinforces your last point: when charging other stuff, MBP becomes unusable.
Maybe we are a silent majority...really don’t understand why people need it removed, just don’t use it, but leave the option to others who do. I really hope this doesn’t go forward, unless it’s a trade-off to get mini led display with same price tag.
I still don't buy the MagSafe AND USB-C charging. Given that charging is inherent in the specification for USB-C to add MagSafe would be redundant and space is too much of a premium. When they say MagSafe charging they mean MagSafe charging of peripherals. 100%
All of the other computer models with proprietary chargers and USB-C support charging with both. It's nice to have the option.
That’s what I’m hopping for: Apple’s version of TB/USB C cable with magnetic functionality of magsafe, without any restraint to usability of port (suspect no charger will be included though...)MagSafe's magnetic connection is obviously nice, buuuuut…
- it's proprietary, and there was never really much of a third-party market. In contrast, there are a lot of choices for USB-C chargers of various kinds.
- it's only on one side. You can charge a modern MBP (except for the low-end 13-inch
) from any of the four ports, on either side!
- it only charges. In contrast, the USB-C port can be combined with a hub or dock, so you can hook up charging, displays, accessories, networking, etc. all with one cable.
I would like to see a magnetic variant of USB-C, but other than that, going back to MagSafe is not at all a clear win.
I'll take a touch interface when it works like The Expanse or Minority Report.
Until then, all I've used it for on Windows PCs is sliding up to unlock it. If the interface doesn't work as well as an iPad Pro with a stylus, it's a huge step back for no godly reason.
What exactly is "all of the other computer models"? How many are we talking about? And how many of those need a non-USB-PD solution because they draw > 100W at max CPU?
Darn! You've got me there.
I can only hope that the fact that the phantom port stealer was largely kept away from the iMac, Mini and Pro is a sign that wiser heads have prevailed.
Agree potencial disruption on data could be catastrophic, but when you’re charging, data doesn’t matter. So cable offer in the box is for charging; for data you’ll need to get a TB cable...seems a good compromise: get the magnetic feature of old magsafe without compromising the usability of the TB/USB C ports.
No, if you read the Bloomberg article it's pretty clear that it's MagSafe charging of the MacBook itself. Similar connector to the original MagSafe 1/2.
TB/UsbC plug Cable (power only) with built in magnetic feature of old magsafe, but no charger in the box, seems more likely to me.
Dell Precision 7750.
There are plenty of gaming laptops that have 180+ charging bricks. And I do mean brick.
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Ok...convenient but limited, iPad concept better implemented; more flexible.
That would literally just be changing the cable they ship. The one they ship now is realistically only a charge cable, but it happens to do USB2.0 data too (I dont think a verified USB-C charge cable without USB2.0 compatibility exists, it has to carry data of some form, AFAIK)
I'm not saying that isn't what will happen, but that very much isn't what the "rumour" states. Then again, this rumour is also from the same company that published: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/feat...ny-chip-to-infiltrate-america-s-top-companies
Right.. so laptops with power hungry CPU's and GPUs, that weigh so much they are essentially "portable desktops". Yeah, I had one of those for work (not marketed as a gaming machine but same basic concept) a decade and a half ago.Dell Precision 7750.
There are plenty of gaming laptops that have 180+ charging bricks. And I do mean brick.
We have one of these:
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They have a 180w+ brick because they're about as power efficient as a fiat driven up a hill by a fat guy.
Apple laptops have used <100W chargers, literally forever, and USB-C provides for 100W charing. One of the key benefits of their own CPU/GPU silicon is to be more power efficient. So, the comparison to some fat PC space heater pretending to be a laptop is kind of ridiculous.
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What I am saying is that there is plenty of precedent for charging via proprietary brick AND via USB-C.
I don't think that there's anyway to know. Apple could give us a gift or they could be the grinch. I don't actually really care and I imagine a lot of Apple customers don't either. If they do 8, 12, 16 performance cores, it's going to blow away everything else in the market.
I would expect pricing to be similar to the current products, though configurations will likely be better (more RAM, certainly much faster processor, etc.)